'No Way To Prevent This,' says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

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WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

You sound like a guy that has a poster of Jack Nicholson from A Few Good Men on his wall and have his speech as a screen saver.

I would bet that most of the people you’ve put into this tiny bucket of gun hating lib cowards are actually responsible gun owners who are smart enough to have not tipped over to becoming gun obsessed, conspiracy theory believers that drink from the great NRA chode.

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

I go to work every day in a building that has signs like that posted on the door.  Somehow I go inside every day unafraid that I’ll be shot and killed.  You may say that I just don’t appreciate the risks, when the truth is I’ve lost two close colleagues to gun violence: Bill Klug at UCLA and Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.  You might want to google the latter if you don’t recognize the name, and ask yourself if he was a coward that day.  

I won’t hold my breath.  

caliking

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

Tell me more about this fantasy... are your shoulders disproportionally larger than your waist, do you wear an outfit with boots, and your undies outside your pants? Maybe fly around with arms outstretched, and an animal sidekick of some kind?

HeavyG

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

That's some next level Walter Mitty/cosplayer sh!t right there!

How often do you and your fellow larpers get together?

Thank you oh brave warrior!

lousubcap

I posted this link several days ago here-but to those who wonder how we as a nation have been pushed to where we are with guns and testosterone, this is worth your time:
Perhaps some hard-over believers will see the path they have been led down.  Follow the money!! 
From the Atlantic-
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20220725&utm_term=The Atlantic Daily

Botch

caliking said:

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

Tell me more about this fantasy... are your shoulders disproportionally larger than your waist, do you wear an outfit with boots, and your undies outside your pants? Maybe fly around with arms outstretched, and an animal sidekick of some kind?

Heh, I'd just like to see the latest Wilson family Xmas card, or latest posting on GunzR-Us.com...  

The Cen-Tex Smoker

lousubcap said:

I posted this link several days ago here-but to those who wonder how we as a nation have been pushed to where we are with guns and testosterone, this is worth your time:
Perhaps some hard-over believers will see the path they have been led down.  Follow the money!! 
From the Atlantic-
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20220725&utm_term=The Atlantic Daily

That was a good read. This is exactly the way I feel about it. I live on a ranch, own multiple guns and shoot a couple times a month most months, way more certain times of year. I just feel like the gun industry has gone fvcking insane. It’s all a bunch of coal rolling white knight wannabes with a hard on to be Kyle Rittenhouse. 99.99% of these people will never squeeze off a meaningful round in their lives and have a much, much 
Stronger chance of a tragedy happening with their guns than ever saving some poor libs life. That is a fact, not an opinion. 

I guess when all you consume is media and social media telling you the invasion is coming for your comfortable suburban life, you get scared and buy a lot of tough-guy guns. Your echo chamber feeds you more and more every day and pretty soon, an election is stolen and your country needs you! More guns. You now have 20 ar-15’s, a few helmets, tactical pants, maybe a vest or 2 and now a new gun safe for your ammo. More media, more ads served, more fear, more guns. 

When these are the ads you are served:

You end up with all these dip$hits running around with white knight complexes. In reality, the vast majority of these people are clowns. And the ones that aren’t, are still in far greater danger of having their guns used against them or a family member, or god forbid a child gets hold of it than ever saving some poor lib or ever being the wet dream of the “good guy with a gun”. 

The vast majority of these numb nuts are more like these people:



According to guns.com, a survey a career police officers, 27% ever fire their service weapon. IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREER. These people are on the front lines looking for trouble 40 hours a week for 20 years. 30% white males, 20% non-white males, and 11% females use their service weapon at least once during their career…which is a discussion for another day. 

So as far as saving me? No thanks. You can keep your cosplay Call of Duty $hit as far away from me as possible. The most meaningful shots 99.99% of you guys will ever fire is from your keyboard. And you need way better ammo. 

Botch

lousubcap said:

I posted this link several days ago here-but to those who wonder how we as a nation have been pushed to where we are with guns and testosterone, this is worth your time:
Perhaps some hard-over believers will see the path they have been led down.  Follow the money!! 
From the Atlantic-
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20220725&utm_term=The Atlantic Daily

Guys, I didn't read this article when the good Cap'n first posted it, it looked way too long from the scroll bar on my screen.  But, it's over half pictures, and only a ten-minute read or so; well worth your time.  On the WAYBRN thread, there was a post of a holster, that featured "Hello Kitty"-style graphics, and I didn't understand that at all; reading the above article, it makes more sense now, and makes me wretch.  
 
I normally try to avoid this topic, but a couple of weeks ago Bill Maher posted the video below, which also opened my eyes about certain things (the revenge storyline in Hollywood).  A brilliant monologue.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebg2YnBj9II
 
  

The Cen-Tex Smoker

That was great Botch. Thanks for posting that. I would say that young people all over the world watch those movies without having the gun violence we have. That’s obviously because they don’t have access to the guns. 

It made me think, we don’t show cigarettes in movies and frankly, cigarettes are harder to get than an AR15 for an 18 year old here. Smoking rates among younger people are down here but in Asia, where cigs are seeded into movies and kids hav unrestricted access, underage smoking is an epidemic. 

At least on the surface you could assume that we would have the issues with cigs and they would have the same issues with guns if our cultural norms aligned. Made me think. Thanks for that. 

Botch

There have been attempts to study gun control in various nations, to find a solution for the US, but every single time funding is requested, for such a study, in our Congress, the NRA nixes it (via their toadies/congresspeople).  Some interesting facts:
- Sweden has at least one gun per adult, nationwide; it's required
- Japan leads the world, by far, in violent video games; very few gun owners
- I knew a few others, but my mind's gone blank right now (post happy hour for us retirees)
 
Would love to read a comprehensive analysis of all the world's countries on this, but the NRA doesn't want that.    

lousubcap

Echoing the above from @The Cen-Tex Smoker, thank you for that. That pretty much captures where we as a society are-
I am still wondering about the US Constitution and how the hard over gun rights advocates square with the front end piece ,"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
I have yet to see a reasonable answer.  But to expect such here is not gonna happen.  
We have lost our way and doubt we will get it back.  That is my sad assessment of our society today.  I am old and have young grand daughters.  I have always thought that the future generations would carry the responsible torch-I'm not so optimistic anymore.  I hope I am wrong.  

dmchicago

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

lousubcap said:

I posted this link several days ago here-but to those who wonder how we as a nation have been pushed to where we are with guns and testosterone, this is worth your time:
Perhaps some hard-over believers will see the path they have been led down.  Follow the money!! 
From the Atlantic-
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20220725&utm_term=The Atlantic Daily

That was a good read. This is exactly the way I feel about it. I live on a ranch, own multiple guns and shoot a couple times a month most months, way more certain times of year. I just feel like the gun industry has gone fvcking insane. It’s all a bunch of coal rolling white knight wannabes with a hard on to be Kyle Rittenhouse. 99.99% of these people will never squeeze off a meaningful round in their lives and have a much, much 
Stronger chance of a tragedy happening with their guns than ever saving some poor libs life. That is a fact, not an opinion. 

I guess when all you consume is media and social media telling you the invasion is coming for your comfortable suburban life, you get scared and buy a lot of tough-guy guns. Your echo chamber feeds you more and more every day and pretty soon, an election is stolen and your country needs you! More guns. You now have 20 ar-15’s, a few helmets, tactical pants, maybe a vest or 2 and now a new gun safe for your ammo. More media, more ads served, more fear, more guns. 

When these are the ads you are served:

You end up with all these dip$hits running around with white knight complexes. In reality, the vast majority of these people are clowns. And the ones that aren’t, are still in far greater danger of having their guns used against them or a family member, or god forbid a child gets hold of it than ever saving some poor lib or ever being the wet dream of the “good guy with a gun”. 

The vast majority of these numb nuts are more like these people:



According to guns.com, a survey a career police officers, 27% ever fire their service weapon. IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREER. These people are on the front lines looking for trouble 40 hours a week for 20 years. 30% white males, 20% non-white males, and 11% females use their service weapon at least once during their career…which is a discussion for another day. 

So as far as saving me? No thanks. You can keep your cosplay Call of Duty $hit as far away from me as possible. The most meaningful shots 99.99% of you guys will ever fire is from your keyboard. And you need way better ammo. 

This is brilliant. 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

I will ad one more thing. If you guys showed up out here to shoot with us in your tac-gear clown suits and your ridiculous peen extensions you call a gun that has never been off-range telling us how you are going to save us, you would get laughed out of the county (one of the reddest in TX). We have names for guys like you. I’ll save you the embarrassment. 

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

I go to work every day in a building that has signs like that posted on the door.  Somehow I go inside every day unafraid that I’ll be shot and killed.  You may say that I just don’t appreciate the risks, when the truth is I’ve lost two close colleagues to gun violence: Bill Klug at UCLA and Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.  You might want to google the latter if you don’t recognize the name, and ask yourself if he was a coward that day.  

I won’t hold my breath.  

If you are talking about a government building then most likely they have security. Those same signs have been on numerous buildings and guess what? They were picked by crazy people to carry out their evil plan. 

Due to the vast numbers, most gun free zones will not be hit by a shooter. However, a few are. And according to many on this forum, it’s enough that it warrants the ban of the most common rifle in America. So if you aren’t afraid then apparently it’s not common enough that it concerns you much. You send mixed messages.  

WildmanWilson

Ever hear this quote:

“You can vote yourself into socialism but you will have to shoot your way out of it.”

It’s why many governments disarm their citizens. 

The government doesn’t care of a few thousand die from being shot. They just don’t. It just fits their agenda. If they cared about people dying they would do something about the illegal drugs pouring in from across the border. Over 71,000 have died from fentanyl last year. It’s an increasing epidemic that somehow takes a backseat to the black rifles that kill maybe a few hundred each year. 

WildmanWilson

Botch said:

There have been attempts to study gun control in various nations, to find a solution for the US, but every single time funding is requested, for such a study, in our Congress, the NRA nixes it (via their toadies/congresspeople).  Some interesting facts:
- Sweden has at least one gun per adult, nationwide; it's required
- Japan leads the world, by far, in violent video games; very few gun owners
- I knew a few others, but my mind's gone blank right now (post happy hour for us retirees)
 
Would love to read a comprehensive analysis of all the world's countries on this, but the NRA doesn't want that.    

Here’s a good read that shows how manipulation by the media and politicians brainwashed so many. Just look at facts. It’s going to hurt the feelings of some of the libs here. 

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2022/05/debunking-every-major-mass-shooting-myth/

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson said:

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

I go to work every day in a building that has signs like that posted on the door.  Somehow I go inside every day unafraid that I’ll be shot and killed.  You may say that I just don’t appreciate the risks, when the truth is I’ve lost two close colleagues to gun violence: Bill Klug at UCLA and Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.  You might want to google the latter if you don’t recognize the name, and ask yourself if he was a coward that day.  

I won’t hold my breath.  

If you are talking about a government building then most likely they have security. 

It’s not a government building.  Good Lord man, you can barely pay attention to anything.  

fishlessman

saw someone have a defund the police up by the camp in maine, got to thinking about it and never even seen an officer in town. we dont even have a station, had to google it.......911 takes you to the county sheriff department which has about 50 more officers thn the little town im in in massachusetts. thats a whole county verse a little town

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

JohnInCarolina said:

WildmanWilson said:

Why don’t you gun hating libs post a sign on your house or on your car or on your person telling everyone you are a gun free zone and you own no guns ? I’ll tell you why. You stand like cowards behind the people that do own guns. You can be smug about guns being bad yet you do not want a criminal to know because you are then an easy target. You still have the element of surprise because others aren’t afraid to do the dirty work for you. 

I go to work every day in a building that has signs like that posted on the door.  Somehow I go inside every day unafraid that I’ll be shot and killed.  You may say that I just don’t appreciate the risks, when the truth is I’ve lost two close colleagues to gun violence: Bill Klug at UCLA and Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.  You might want to google the latter if you don’t recognize the name, and ask yourself if he was a coward that day.  

I won’t hold my breath.  

If you are talking about a government building then most likely they have security. 

It’s not a government building.  Good Lord man, you can barely pay attention to anything.  

Am I supposed to follow you like some celebrity? I have no clue where you work. Don’t care. You just admit no fear working in a gun free zone yet still think gun control laws need to be changed. So you either think the risk is nearly nonexistent or you simply wish to take the most common rifle from legal citizens. I’ve already shown data that these public mass shootings are a very minor amount of the homicides. It still doesn’t change the gun grab you are after. 

littlerascal56

80 year old store owner shot the robber in the arm before he could harm him.  Pretty good aim for an old guy huh?

dmchicago

Good use of a gun.

HeavyG

I was gonna ask if the robber was armed...

WildmanWilson

littlerascal56 said:

80 year old store owner shot the robber in the arm before he could harm him.  Pretty good aim for an old guy huh?

I’m not sure this story is real. I mean how can an old man with a simple shotgun take out a guy with a weapon of war that shoots 500 rounds a second and blows people to dust? 

dmchicago

WildmanWilson said:

littlerascal56 said:

80 year old store owner shot the robber in the arm before he could harm him.  Pretty good aim for an old guy huh?

I’m not sure this story is real. I mean how can an old man with a simple shotgun take out a guy with a weapon of war that shoots 500 rounds a second and blows people to dust? 

Dunno...ask the cowards in Uvalde.

caliking

Its not the guns, you dolts! It's the liquor stores that are the problem...

https://www.foxla.com/news/1-dead-in-covina-liquor-store-shooting

See?

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/nanwhaley/status/1554888578743746560?s=20&t=dE4lQGCE3ce6KNkl-tYJqg

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/nanwhaley/status/1554888578743746560?s=20&t=dE4lQGCE3ce6KNkl-tYJqg

It would be better if they just waited on the police….

Or use a hot tub time machine to un-invent  guns. 

Putting up a sign telling crazy people to not bring them in has a great track record so maybe expand that with bolder fonts. 

caliking

WildmanWilson said:

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/nanwhaley/status/1554888578743746560?s=20&t=dE4lQGCE3ce6KNkl-tYJqg

It would be better if they just waited on the police….

Or use a hot tub time machine to un-invent  guns. 

Putting up a sign telling crazy people to not bring them in has a great track record so maybe expand that with bolder fonts. 

Or... wait for it... support gun control that would let responsible citizens still keep their non-Rambo guns, while keeping them out of the hands of less responsible (aka loony)  folks.

I know its a novel idea, but whodathunk it would work for so many countries?? 

AnothaStolenGenrator

caliking said:

WildmanWilson said:

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/nanwhaley/status/1554888578743746560?s=20&t=dE4lQGCE3ce6KNkl-tYJqg

It would be better if they just waited on the police….

Or use a hot tub time machine to un-invent  guns. 

Putting up a sign telling crazy people to not bring them in has a great track record so maybe expand that with bolder fonts. 

Or... wait for it... support gun control that would let responsible citizens still keep their non-Rambo guns, while keeping them out of the hands of less responsible (aka loony)  folks.

I know its a novel idea, but whodathunk it would work for so many countries?? 

Only in socialist paradises like Norway where they have free healthcare free college and a higher GDP per capita than the … United States. Wait…. what? 

caliking

How'd I miss this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM&t=5s