MLB - Rob Manfred cancels opening day

Ozzie_Isaac

As a lover of baseball, it pains me to see MLB headed down the well trodden Owner vs. Player arguments that tarnish the sport.

Between the pandemic and the spector of WWIII, I think they are over estimating their importance.

hoosier_egger

Baseball is dead

lousubcap

@Ozzie_Isaac The sport paid dearly for the 1994 strike and impact on the 1995 season.  Gonna happen again.  
Below is the latest missive from Manfred:
https://www.mlb.com/news/featured/a-letter-to-baseball-fans?partnerId=zh-20220302-555117-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20220302-555117-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=pg2H8a8w0Uaj2k5Ih4Uq+zFq+YA1yABvDIvsc2nsbLLUzphLgah4XEVGA6MQ9miy&bt_ts=1646233331143

JohnInCarolina

Heard it this morning on the news.  Incredibly disappointed in MLB.  This is about as tone-deaf as it gets.  

Battleborn

It’s a sad day when the greedy players are trying to take from the poor owners. How are the owners supposed to make money? They are pretty much operating charities at this point. Jeter only got $45 mil on his $25 mil investment for 4% stake in the Marlins yesterday. 

Legume

Greed is ugly no matter who is wearing it.

hoosier_egger

Legume said:

Greed is ugly no matter who is wearing it.

Says the guy hoarding all the tots.

JohnInCarolina

Legume said:

Greed is ugly no matter who is wearing it.

EzraBrooks

Eagerly awaiting an explanation on how this is Biden's fault.

StillH2OEgger

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

lousubcap

StillH2OEgger said:

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

That is telling it like it is.  Agree 100%.  

Ozzie_Isaac

I wish I got see more of the small ball and brawl era.  Watching clips from the 70s and 80s is pretty amazing.

I would love to see the time when the biggest baddest person on the field was a pitcher who would regularly throw over 100 pitches a game.

lousubcap

@Ozzie_Isaac I am sure you remember this Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura fight in 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY  
Don't mess with Ryan.  

WeberWho

lousubcap said:

@Ozzie_Isaac I am sure you remember this Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura fight in 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY  
Don't mess with Ryan.  

Ozzie_Isaac

lousubcap said:

@Ozzie_Isaac I am sure you remember this Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura fight in 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY  
Don't mess with Ryan.  

Yes I do!  Thank you for the jog down memory lane.

JohnInCarolina

lousubcap said:

@Ozzie_Isaac I am sure you remember this Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura fight in 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY  
Don't mess with Ryan.  

still my all-time favorite:

lousubcap

Since pitch count was mentioned, give this article a look:
https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-one-game#:~:text=Taking the mound for the,to accounts from the game.  

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

lousubcap said:

@Ozzie_Isaac I am sure you remember this Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura fight in 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3niGu9d_pY  
Don't mess with Ryan.  

still my all-time favorite:

Like I tell my kids, just because they are old, doesn't mean they aren't bad.  Zimmer charged Pedro and he got what he deserved.

Ozzie_Isaac

lousubcap said:

Since pitch count was mentioned, give this article a look:
https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-one-game#:~:text=Taking the mound for the,to accounts from the game.  

This is crazy!

"Ryan finished with a no-decision and didn’t even log the most innings by any pitcher in Anaheim that day: His opponent, Luis Tiant, went 14 1/3 innings before surrendering Denny Doyle’s walk-off double in the bottom of the 15th."

HeavyG

Whenever I hear about the good ole days of baseball and how the game sucks these days I remember this tv ad that Barbasol ran a few years ago which cracks me up:

"...I'm in the middle of pitching 17 innings. And that's after a breakfast of chipped beef and scotch..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIMxn1BhI4

Ozzie_Isaac

HeavyG said:

Whenever I hear about the good ole days of baseball and how the game sucks these days I remember this tv ad that Barbasol ran a few years ago which cracks me up:

"...I'm in the middle of pitching 17 innings. And that's after a breakfast of chipped beef and scotch..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIMxn1BhI4

Lol! Never seen that before.  Breakfast of Champions.

Botch

https://news.yahoo.com/billionaire-team-owners-rule-baseball-234726663.html
Capitalism.  Unfettered.  

Wooderson

Damn shame

billt01

JohnInCarolina said:

Legume said:

Greed is ugly no matter who is wearing it.

↑ based Carl Icahn..buy under valued stocks, then force a boards hand to do his bidding..

love me some capitalism 

xfire_ATX

lousubcap said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

That is telling it like it is.  Agree 100%.  

As a kid in St Louis I loved Baseball, my Grandparents always took me to games

In my Teens in Houston, nothing more fun that Astrodome games with my Dad.

I also then realized that this is a boring game and quit watching it unless the Astros or Cardinals are in the world series.  Then I really just check the scores.  All major sports though have the same issues.. too much money and every person involved wants more of it.

Battleborn

xfire_ATX said:

lousubcap said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

That is telling it like it is.  Agree 100%.  

As a kid in St Louis I loved Baseball, my Grandparents always took me to games

In my Teens in Houston, nothing more fun that Astrodome games with my Dad.

I also then realized that this is a boring game and quit watching it unless the Astros or Cardinals are in the world series.  Then I really just check the scores.  All major sports though have the same issues.. too much money and every person involved wants more of it.

I have found it increasingly difficult to watch the games. Going to the park and watching used to be my favorite sporting event to attend, until I went to a VGK hockey game. Now I really only watch baseball if the Astros are playing in the playoffs. 

fishlessman

Battleborn said:

xfire_ATX said:

lousubcap said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

That is telling it like it is.  Agree 100%.  

As a kid in St Louis I loved Baseball, my Grandparents always took me to games

In my Teens in Houston, nothing more fun that Astrodome games with my Dad.

I also then realized that this is a boring game and quit watching it unless the Astros or Cardinals are in the world series.  Then I really just check the scores.  All major sports though have the same issues.. too much money and every person involved wants more of it.

I have found it increasingly difficult to watch the games. Going to the park and watching used to be my favorite sporting event to attend, until I went to a VGK hockey game. Now I really only watch baseball if the Astros are playing in the playoffs. 

hockey is the only sport i want to see live. better than a bruins game though is the college bean pot played at the gardens. corner seats on the away goalie side

Battleborn

fishlessman said:

Battleborn said:

xfire_ATX said:

lousubcap said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Ten years ago this would have been devastating -- or at least very disappointing -- to me, but the sport has become utterly unwatchable the past several years. I recall a stat where 40 percent of at bats don't result with a ball put into play. There's too many strikeouts, walks, and yes, home runs nowadays. Way too many pitchers used and the games take too long. I could easily tolerate three-plus hour games if not for the pace/lack of interesting plays. Defense and base running are almost irrelevant in today's game. It's sad what MLB baseball has turned into -- and has nothing to do with how much the players and owners are making.

That is telling it like it is.  Agree 100%.  

As a kid in St Louis I loved Baseball, my Grandparents always took me to games

In my Teens in Houston, nothing more fun that Astrodome games with my Dad.

I also then realized that this is a boring game and quit watching it unless the Astros or Cardinals are in the world series.  Then I really just check the scores.  All major sports though have the same issues.. too much money and every person involved wants more of it.

I have found it increasingly difficult to watch the games. Going to the park and watching used to be my favorite sporting event to attend, until I went to a VGK hockey game. Now I really only watch baseball if the Astros are playing in the playoffs. 

hockey is the only sport i want to see live. better than a bruins game though is the college bean pot played at the gardens. corner seats on the away goalie side

I’ll admit that I haven’t taken in a game away from Vegas (Bruins are in town tonight, BTW), but the in game production here is amazing. Keeps Mrs. BattleBorn entertained and excited to go to the games. 

xfire_ATX

Battleborn said:

I have found it increasingly difficult to watch the games. Going to the park and watching used to be my favorite sporting event to attend

I still enjoy going to a New (to me) park and enjoying the experience of the park.  I usually am ready to leave after 4 or 5 innings though.

Botch

I've only been to one pro game in my life, but I don't mind seeing the minor team here in Ogden if I'm with friends, watching the colors change on the Wasatch Mountains is more fun than the baseball game.
 

 

SonVolt

My son plays little league baseball and it's 1000x more exciting than any MLB game as of late. And my son ran to 3rd after his first time at bat.