How to clean a griddle top

jdMyers

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Ozzie_Isaac

jdMyers said:

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Do not try that on a blackstone or other "seasoned" griddle.  That only works for the stainless steel griddles.

Photo Egg

Wow!

fishlessman

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

nolaegghead

That Skyline Glitter cleaner uses potassium hydroxide (aka potash) as its active ingredient.  Basically a form of lye, same as most oven cleaners.  It will remove polymerized fats (seasoning) and give you a bare metal surface.  Sodium hydroxide can also be used, but the potassium cuts grease and fat better.

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

That Skyline Glitter cleaner uses potassium hydroxide (aka potash) as its active ingredient.  Basically a form of lye, same as most oven cleaners.  It will remove polymerized fats (seasoning) and give you a bare metal surface.  Sodium hydroxide can also be used, but the potassium cuts grease and fat better.

It is almost like you are a chemist or something.  I like this new you.

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

That Skyline Glitter cleaner uses potassium hydroxide (aka potash) as its active ingredient.  Basically a form of lye, same as most oven cleaners.  It will remove polymerized fats (seasoning) and give you a bare metal surface.  Sodium hydroxide can also be used, but the potassium cuts grease and fat better.

so how do you use the potash for cleaning, add water for a paste.  ive got some mad scientist potash that was being made for a mars garden fertilizer and the mad scientist said to put it in my vegetable garden, the techie making it said he wouldnt do that

nolaegghead

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

That Skyline Glitter cleaner uses potassium hydroxide (aka potash) as its active ingredient.  Basically a form of lye, same as most oven cleaners.  It will remove polymerized fats (seasoning) and give you a bare metal surface.  Sodium hydroxide can also be used, but the potassium cuts grease and fat better.

so how do you use the potash for cleaning, add water for a paste.  ive got some mad scientist potash that was being made for a mars garden fertilizer and the mad scientist said to put it in my vegetable garden, the techie making it said he wouldnt do that

Mix in some surfactant (soap) and clay (for abrasive).  Add enough water to make a paste.  Try not to get any of the lye on your skin.  Baking soda or vinegar will neutralize it.  Washing off acids and bases with water will give you that unsatisfying slime feeling like it's not coming (same as soap and soft water) off but that's normal.

If you have a concentrated dry hydroxide, we warned that dissolving in water is highly exothermic (releases heat).

nolaegghead

FWIW, if you have some Diatomaceous earth, it makes a great cleaning abrasive paste.  Most of those powdered cleaners use feldspar (same as using clay).  Also, diatomaceous earth will kill segmented shell insects as a non-toxic agent...  Gets stuck in their shell and they dehydrate to death.

CPFC1905

nolaegghead said:

FWIW, if you have some Diatomaceous earth,

I don’t and now my life feels hollow and meaningless.  Where did it all go wrong? 

caliking

nolaegghead said:

FWIW, if you have some Diatomaceous earth, it makes a great cleaning abrasive paste.  Most of those powdered cleaners use feldspar (same as using clay).  Also, diatomaceous earth will kill segmented shell insects as a non-toxic agent...  Gets stuck in their shell and they dehydrate to death.

I'll just add,  that if you're playing with dry DE, wear an N95. You don't want that in your lungs.

Not likely to be an issue if you handle it rarely/occasionally. 

alaskanassasin

Ozzie_Isaac

caliking said:

nolaegghead said:

FWIW, if you have some Diatomaceous earth, it makes a great cleaning abrasive paste.  Most of those powdered cleaners use feldspar (same as using clay).  Also, diatomaceous earth will kill segmented shell insects as a non-toxic agent...  Gets stuck in their shell and they dehydrate to death.

I'll just add,  that if you're playing with dry DE, wear an N95. You don't want that in your lungs.

Not likely to be an issue if you handle it rarely/occasionally. 

Why is that? I know chicken owners use it mixed in with chicken feed to help with worms and mites.  I thought the form of the silicia was different in DE, than the crystaline version.

alaskanassasin

Keep it in stock with oyster shells and lime.

Eggdicted_Dawgfan

Filter grade DE is toxic to us but it is my understanding that food grade DE is safe, until we hear otherwise. Nola and Cali is that accurate or not really? I’ve never used a mask with the food grade but maybe I should. 

caliking

My understanding is that ingested DE is not problematic, but inhaled DE can be. Especially with repeat exposure. The particle size of food grade DE is likely larger than filter grade DE, so may be less of an issue.

I have a DE pool filter, and do all of the maintenance of my pool equipment myself. As a safety measure, I always wear an N95 when backwashing the filter, or cleaning,  it and recharging it with DE. It may be overkill, but since these are regular activities, I prefer to take the precaution.

CPFC1905

So it’s dangerous?  Now I feel a lot better.  Thanks. 

I guess it’s not the same as Fullers earth that I used to blot, bang, rub with during CBRN training? 

alaskanassasin

My rule of thumb is if it kills insects or anything for that matter I handle it with care. Such as pesticides, herbicides, mousetraps, guns, acids, you get the idea.  My thought on DE is that its a micro abrasive so probably try not to breathe it.

Hub

Hey, I thought the video was awesome.  I've already ordered the cleaner and the large lemon juice.  My griddle is stainless.  I can usually get it pretty clean, but nothing like that in the video.  Thanks for posting!

otter

What ever happened to a pumice stone and water?

Tspud1

Ozzie_Isaac said:

jdMyers said:

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Do not try that on a blackstone or other "seasoned" griddle.  That only works for the stainless steel griddles.

but that wasnt a stainless steel griddle plate

Tspud1

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

fishlessman

Tspud1 said:

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

this makes more sense to me, stainless easily warps with uneven heat sources

Ozzie_Isaac

fishlessman said:

Tspud1 said:

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

this makes more sense to me, stainless easily warps with uneven heat sources

Hmm, this makes me nervous.  My new griddle has a thick 304 stainless surface.  It does have a heavy cast iron diffuser plate underneath.  Hopefully that will mitigate and issues.

fishlessman

Ozzie_Isaac said:

fishlessman said:

Tspud1 said:

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

this makes more sense to me, stainless easily warps with uneven heat sources

Hmm, this makes me nervous.  My new griddle has a thick 304 stainless surface.  It does have a heavy cast iron diffuser plate underneath.  Hopefully that will mitigate and issues.

the cast iron diffuser makes all the difference with your high end griddle. if you put a ss top on a black stone it will warp big time

nolaegghead

Stainless steel costs more than 5x carbon steel and has half the thermal conductivity.   Seems counter-intuitive that extra cost would have a benefit in griddles, at least at the commercial level.

Tspud1

Ozzie_Isaac said:

fishlessman said:

Tspud1 said:

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

this makes more sense to me, stainless easily warps with uneven heat sources

Hmm, this makes me nervous.  My new griddle has a thick 304 stainless surface.  It does have a heavy cast iron diffuser plate underneath.  Hopefully that will mitigate and issues.

Most commercial griddle do have 3/4 or 1" thick plates. It is a heat mass that holds the heat. Stainless does not conduct heat as well as common steel so it makes an inferior
cooking plate. Could you tell me what make and model griddle you have? I think there
may be some high end residential griddles that use stainless as a plate but the cost
must be enormous. Our stainless prices went from $1.37Lb in Aug 2020, Jan price was $1.94, April 2021 $2.59Lb., July 2021 $4.48Lb and 9-22 its $5.26Lb and its still over $5.00Lb for 304 20 gauge

mEGG_My_Day

Tspud1 said:Our stainless prices went from $1.37Lb in Aug 2020, Jan price was $1.94, April 2021 $2.59Lb., July 2021 $4.48Lb and 9-22 its $5.26Lb and its still over $5.00Lb for 304 20 gauge

Ouch - I’m glad I purchased my table from you a few years back!! 

Hansm

good stiff nylon brush made for cats iron skillets, salt and elbow grease

Ozzie_Isaac

Tspud1 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

fishlessman said:

Tspud1 said:

fishlessman said:

those stainless ones look to be alot of work to clean, ill stick with the blackstone and not worry about it

I dont know of any commercial griddle that has a stainless surface. Most are just high polished steel, some have a hard chrome coating like the high end Japanese steak house ones.  I make commercial gas cooking equipment and know most brands. Oldest stove company in the USA, 6th generation. 

this makes more sense to me, stainless easily warps with uneven heat sources

Hmm, this makes me nervous.  My new griddle has a thick 304 stainless surface.  It does have a heavy cast iron diffuser plate underneath.  Hopefully that will mitigate and issues.

Most commercial griddle do have 3/4 or 1" thick plates. It is a heat mass that holds the heat. Stainless does not conduct heat as well as common steel so it makes an inferior
cooking plate. Could you tell me what make and model griddle you have? I think there
may be some high end residential griddles that use stainless as a plate but the cost
must be enormous. Our stainless prices went from $1.37Lb in Aug 2020, Jan price was $1.94, April 2021 $2.59Lb., July 2021 $4.48Lb and 9-22 its $5.26Lb and its still over $5.00Lb for 304 20 gauge

Le Griddle 30" (GFE 75)

https://www.legriddleus.com/

I am curious now to see how it cooks compared to the two Blackstones I have.  I bought it due to size, availability, looks, and believe it or not, cost.  Built in griddles are hard to come by and unbelievably expensive.

Tspud1

Ozzie, do you live by the ocean by chance? 304 can rust if exposed to salt air or scraping with certain cleaners. The cast iron is the trick on that Le Griddle. It should cook circles around the Blackstones but for most home owners the Blackstone should 
be enough. I rarely use the 5 griddles I own, just bought to make the accessories