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Turducken
Canugghead
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Merry Christmas to my egghead friends.
Always wanted to try a turducken, finally got to do it since it's the only dish I'm cooking this year. swmbo made sides. Gosh, to say it's a lot of work is an understatement.
Found Kenji's method interesting so I went for it with slight mods.
https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/11/the-food-lab-the-ulimate-turducken.html
It advocates prepping and cooking inside out, naming several benefits.
Kenji's process:
stuff chicken, poach, stuff duck, poach, sear, stuff turkey, bake.
My modified process:
stuff chicken, sv, sear, stuff duck, sv, sear, stuff turkey, smoke, last 10 min in oven to crisp up.
The birds

I've followed Chef Pepin's video few times for deboning chicken in the past, but trust me turkey and duck are not as easy, had to use the boning knife often, not just at the four joints. Glad I didn't cut off the excess turkey butt skin and duck neck skin, needed them to cover the logs which really grew!

Chicken roulade stuffed with sage pork sausage (ground pork too lean)

Chicken roulade sv'd and seared in duck fat

Repeated above with layer of sausage between chicken and duck. Had a hard time rendering the fat and browning the post sv ducken, should have removed the excess pool of liquid/fat mixture in the CI griddle.

Turkey ready to gobble ducken, no sausage layer. Darn, no pics of whole works before smoking. Had to use tooth picks and butcher strings. Glad swmbo told me to count the number of toothpicks used for stitching, lol.

Brushed duck fat and applied some rub. Smoked in Traeger at 350-375. Last 10 min in 425 oven to crisp up

Cut into four quarters, one for the two of us and one each for three adult kids' to pickup. Yes, we're too chicken to let them eat with us. The duck fat did magic to the skin, all kids reported crispy skin even after over an hour in foil wrap.

Summary:
It was essentially nested roulades. Looks interesting but much easier to make three separate roulades instead, to be honest. If, and that's a big if, I make one again I'd omit the sv steps; probably easier and better result if all three steps are done in Egg or Traeger only.
Always wanted to try a turducken, finally got to do it since it's the only dish I'm cooking this year. swmbo made sides. Gosh, to say it's a lot of work is an understatement.
Found Kenji's method interesting so I went for it with slight mods.
https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/11/the-food-lab-the-ulimate-turducken.html
It advocates prepping and cooking inside out, naming several benefits.
Kenji's process:
stuff chicken, poach, stuff duck, poach, sear, stuff turkey, bake.
My modified process:
stuff chicken, sv, sear, stuff duck, sv, sear, stuff turkey, smoke, last 10 min in oven to crisp up.
The birds

I've followed Chef Pepin's video few times for deboning chicken in the past, but trust me turkey and duck are not as easy, had to use the boning knife often, not just at the four joints. Glad I didn't cut off the excess turkey butt skin and duck neck skin, needed them to cover the logs which really grew!

Chicken roulade stuffed with sage pork sausage (ground pork too lean)

Chicken roulade sv'd and seared in duck fat

Repeated above with layer of sausage between chicken and duck. Had a hard time rendering the fat and browning the post sv ducken, should have removed the excess pool of liquid/fat mixture in the CI griddle.

Turkey ready to gobble ducken, no sausage layer. Darn, no pics of whole works before smoking. Had to use tooth picks and butcher strings. Glad swmbo told me to count the number of toothpicks used for stitching, lol.

Brushed duck fat and applied some rub. Smoked in Traeger at 350-375. Last 10 min in 425 oven to crisp up

Cut into four quarters, one for the two of us and one each for three adult kids' to pickup. Yes, we're too chicken to let them eat with us. The duck fat did magic to the skin, all kids reported crispy skin even after over an hour in foil wrap.

Summary:
It was essentially nested roulades. Looks interesting but much easier to make three separate roulades instead, to be honest. If, and that's a big if, I make one again I'd omit the sv steps; probably easier and better result if all three steps are done in Egg or Traeger only.
canuckland
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Thanks for documenting and posting. Looks like it turned out really well. Kenji’s recipes are generally solid, though it sounds like you diverged in many respects. Nice cook!!
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That’s bad azz.Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
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Awesome result 😋Greensboro North Carolina
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That is successfully taking on and documenting quite a culinary project. Impressive across the board. Way to adapt and deliver the goods. Congrats.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.
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Wow!I drink cheap beer so I can afford good bourbon.
Salisbury, NC...... XL,Lx3,Mx2,S, MM, Mini BGE, FireDisc x2. Blackstone 22", Offset smoker, weber kettle 22" -
Great post. Thanks for the write-up and sharing your thoughts.
XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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That looks great. Thanks for the detailed report.Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser.
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Stunning project/cook!"Hallelujah, Noel, be it Heaven or Hell,
The Christmas we get, we deserve"
-RIP Greg LakeOgden, UT, USA
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Nice! Hopefully SWMBO doesn’t see this, she tasked me with doing a chicken Ballotine. I bet she would ask me to do this if she knew it was a thing 🤣😂____________________Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage. •Niccolo Machiavelli
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I am really glad that you attempted this, Gary, so that I don’t have to!"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Awesome effort and great cook, Gary!Happily egging on my original large BGE since 1996... now the owner of 5 eggs. Call me crazy, everyone else does!
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Impressive! I doubt I have the patience and tenacity for that cook.
The offspring better appreciate the effort
#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
Thanks all for the kind words, I'm honoured knowing what amazing cooks many of you are. I'm sure many of you can pull this off too, probably better, but no one is as crazy as me yet

As an old fart, most of my cooks are mundane, just thought it's time I share something interesting, so I won't get 'trimmed off' the forum
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@GrateEggspectations ya Kenji and Chefsteps are my favourites although I like to modify or cut corners sometimes.canuckland
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@paqmanOur dil sent this today, remembering our Christmas dinner six years ago. It got me thinking, damn it was easier to make three proteins, tandoori chicken, prime rib and Chefsteps turkey, than this turducken


Ask your dw if she wants to sacrifice most of the above and settle for a food with 'turd' in it, I think you'll be safe
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@JohnInCarolina @caliking Haha, actually now that I've got one under my belt, I may contemplate making it again to remember Christmas 2020 and celebrate first post Covid Christmas, assuming vaccines will make that possible. Learning from many mistakes made this time, and with better planning, it should be more manageable.
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@Florida Grillin Girl Thanks and good to see you Faith. Drop in more often
canuckland -
I deboned a turkey once; never again. 😂🤣____________________Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage. •Niccolo Machiavelli
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Nice cook Gary . . . way beyond my energy level LOLaka marysvilleksegghead
Lrg 2008
mini 2009
XL 2021 (sold 8/24/23)
Henny Youngman:
I said to my wife, 'Where do you want to go for our anniversary?' She said, 'I want to go somewhere I've never been before.' I said, 'Try the kitchen.'
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I learned a lot with this post thanks for sharing! I have raised turkeys ducks and chickens all at the same time but that is taking it to the next level.South of Columbus, Ohio.
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@caliking Speaking of offspring, they appreciate us more after they become parents themselves, circle of life I suppose.
They're interested in cooking too, the one with Traeger makes decent brisket and also got me started in SD bread.canuckland -
I hear you, this is my first time deboning whole turkey (deboned legs only in the past). Had to use this to dislodge the wish bones or whatever bones it waspaqman said:I deboned a turkey once; never again. 😂🤣

canuckland -
Glad if I helped in any way. Being disorganised, and with fading memory, documenting it here provides future reference for myself too.alaskanassasin said:I learned a lot with this post thanks for sharing! I have raised turkeys ducks and chickens all at the same time but that is taking it to the next level.
Must be fun to raise your own animals, I used to toy with the idea of buying a hobby farm after retirement. We're now retired but that probably won't happen, since our roots are too deep in the city.canuckland -
And now you have a grandkiddo to start spoiling, and setting the bar high for, already!Canugghead said:@caliking Speaking of offspring, they appreciate us more after they become parents themselves, circle of life I suppose.
They're interested in cooking too, the one with Traeger makes decent brisket and also got me started in SD bread.#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
I am beyond impressed. Nice work!The problem with a problem is that you don't know it's a problem until it's a problem, and that is a big problem.
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Nice! Would you do it again?____________________Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage. •Niccolo Machiavelli
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Thanks. Perhaps next Christmas, should be less challenging hopefully 🤔paqman said:Nice! Would you do it again?canuckland -
@Canugghead - if you can count on memory and skills retention for a year then count me as impressed. Seriously though, that one he!! of an undertaking and production. Again, Congrats across the board!Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.
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