On Cincinnati Chili and Nutritional Yeast

Botch

Good friend of mine posted a delivery he got yesterday, four cans of Skyline Chili; I've been hungry for it since.  I've got 3 different "home" recipes I've had for years, decided to check EweTube for any others.  Came across this one:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FuDnpO51Uc
 
There's a lot of Lore and Legend regarding Skyline's recipe and "secret ingredients", only two people know ONE half of the full recipe, its in a bank vault, etc.  The guy above pointed out that the fourth listed ingredient (on the canned stuff, which IMO doesn't taste quite like the restaurants either) was yeast!  And that's not included in any other recipe on the 'net, so I was intrigued.  He claims to have spent a yuge amount of time reverse-engineering the recipe, and includes tablespoons of both nutritional/brewer's yeast (which I'm totally unfamiliar with), and Fleischmann's.  I found a bag of nutritional yeast, Bob's Red Mill (with a picture of Bob on the package) and noticed it said, "Try it on popcorn!"  
 
Now, any guy that calls for 1 5/8's teaspoon of a spice for 2 lbs of meat, either has much more refined tastebuds than I do, or is blowing smoke.  But, I'll try anything once.  This was close, still not quite right (although it's been at least a decade since I've had it in Ohio).  Had a four-way with beans for lunch (AND my very first Grillo's pickle, yum!), and chili dogs ("Skyliners") for supper.  I'll try this recipe again, but without the clove, a lot less allspice and a little less cayenne.  
 
And so I have a nearly-full bag of nutritional yeast, and I don't usually eat popcorn.  Anyone here use the stuff?  I need some ideas (may sprinkle some into tomorrow morning's Tornado Omelette).  

buzd504

Basically it's the vegan equivalent of parmesan.  We have a canister of it too (from my recently departed vegan nephew).  I don't really know what to do with it either.

caliking

I bought some a while ago, when I was in my hand-pulled noodles phase

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2020/04/hand-pulled-lamian-noodles.html

Gulfcoastguy

Botch said:

Good friend of mine posted a delivery he got yesterday, four cans of Skyline Chili; I've been hungry for it since.  I've got 3 different "home" recipes I've had for years, decided to check EweTube for any others.  Came across this one:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FuDnpO51Uc
 
There's a lot of Lore and Legend regarding Skyline's recipe and "secret ingredients", only two people know ONE half of the full recipe, its in a bank vault, etc.  The guy above pointed out that the fourth listed ingredient (on the canned stuff, which IMO doesn't taste quite like the restaurants either) was yeast!  And that's not included in any other recipe on the 'net, so I was intrigued.  He claims to have spent a yuge amount of time reverse-engineering the recipe, and includes tablespoons of both nutritional/brewer's yeast (which I'm totally unfamiliar with), and Fleischmann's.  I found a bag of nutritional yeast, Bob's Red Mill (with a picture of Bob on the package) and noticed it said, "Try it on popcorn!"  
 
Now, any guy that calls for 1 5/8's teaspoon of a spice for 2 lbs of meat, either has much more refined tastebuds than I do, or is blowing smoke.  But, I'll try anything once.  This was close, still not quite right (although it's been at least a decade since I've had it in Ohio).  Had a four-way with beans for lunch (AND my very first Grillo's pickle, yum!), and chili dogs ("Skyliners") for supper.  I'll try this recipe again, but without the clove, a lot less allspice and a little less cayenne.  
 
And so I have a nearly-full bag of nutritional yeast, and I don't usually eat popcorn.  Anyone here use the stuff?  I need some ideas (may sprinkle some into tomorrow morning's Tornado Omelette).  

An on line friend of mine mixes it with Greek yogurt and almond butter to make a salad dressing. Probably some other ingredients but it would take a deep dive for me to find it. I tried it once and it was surprisingly good, just seldom kept all ingredients on hand.

NCSmoky

@Botch. This is my mothers recipe for Skyline chili. Grew up in Cincinnati in the 70's and ate at Skyline quite a bit. That being said I haven't had the real thing since I was 11 so perhaps you are a better judge to how close this recipe is. Have been making and eating this version most of my life and quite like it so have not tried any others.

#2 Lean ground beef sautéed
3C water
15oz can tomato sauce 
2 bay leaves
1/4 tsp garlic powder
1C onion
1tsp cinnamon
1tsp Worcestershire 
1tsp salt
1tsp vinegar
2tsp ground cumin
1tbs chili powder
1 1/2tsp allspice
1/tsp red pepper

Simmer 3 hours

If you make it let me know how it rates on the authenticity scale.

500

I think you should look at this article on Camp Washington Chili to get tips on certain types of cheese, how it's shredded, how the noodles are cooked, etc.  For me, recalling my years living in Cincinnati, the technique is very important as to how it tastes, as much as the chili recipe is.  

https://www.eater.com/2015/1/27/7866847/cincinnati-chili-camp-washington-eater-elements

That said, I've only attempted it one time, but took inspiration from the above article on technique.  If you have Pinterest, you can look at my board there;

https://pin.it/NEFYt4H

It's been awhile since I've made it, but I believe I used @Richard Fl recipe from the forum, but I believe I added a little cocoa powder;

https://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1177771/skyline-chili#latest

Botch

500 said:

I think you should look at this article on Camp Washington Chili to get tips on certain types of cheese, how it's shredded, how the noodles are cooked, etc.  For me, recalling my years living in Cincinnati, the technique is very important as to how it tastes, as much as the chili recipe is.  

https://www.eater.com/2015/1/27/7866847/cincinnati-chili-camp-washington-eater-elements

Interesting read; thanks!  
 
In one Ewetube video I watched, the gent insisted that Skyline chili does NOT have chocolate in it, as he's allergic to chocolate and has no issue with Skyline chili.
I've never heard of a chocolate allergy, however... 

Gulfcoastguy

Botch said:

500 said:

I think you should look at this article on Camp Washington Chili to get tips on certain types of cheese, how it's shredded, how the noodles are cooked, etc.  For me, recalling my years living in Cincinnati, the technique is very important as to how it tastes, as much as the chili recipe is.  

https://www.eater.com/2015/1/27/7866847/cincinnati-chili-camp-washington-eater-elements

Interesting read; thanks!  
 
In one Ewetube video I watched, the gent insisted that Skyline chili does NOT have chocolate in it, as he's allergic to chocolate and has no issue with Skyline chili.
I've never heard of a chocolate allergy, however... 

My sister is deathly allergic to mushrooms. There are all sorts of allergies. 

paqman

This guy missed the MSG.  Natural flavors = MSG

Fleuschman yeast 🤔, it sounds strange.  Maybe go all the way nutritional yeast.

Thanks for sharing, I’m trying it this weekend.

Botch

Just for sh*ts and giggles I added 2 tsp of the nutritional yeast to my omelette this morning.
Nope.  

Legume

Botch said:

Just for sh*ts and giggles I added 2 tsp of the nutritional yeast to my omelette this morning.
Nope.  

I usually have some around and do add it to things, it adds a little funk as a background note, but two tsp for an omelette sounds heavy to me.

paqman

No beans? 😂🤣😂

GregW

paqman said:

This guy missed the MSG.  Natural flavors = MSG

Fleuschman yeast 🤔, it sounds strange.  Maybe go all the way nutritional yeast.

Thanks for sharing, I’m trying it this weekend.

MSG masquerades under many names. For me it is of no concern, if it's not listed as a recipe ingredient, I make sure to add it. I always keep a bag of the crystalline form from the Asian store in the pantry. I don't really use the Accent brand. 
There's a popular fried chicken restaurant in central Alabama that liberally dust's the  chicken after frying with MSG crystals, the crystals can been seen all over the crust. The customers love it. 

paqman

GregW said:

paqman said:

This guy missed the MSG.  Natural flavors = MSG

Fleuschman yeast 🤔, it sounds strange.  Maybe go all the way nutritional yeast.

Thanks for sharing, I’m trying it this weekend.

MSG masquerades under many names. For me it is of no concern, if it's not listed as a recipe ingredient, I make sure to add it. I always keep a bag of the crystalline form from the Asian store in the pantry. I don't really use the Accent brand. 
There's a popular fried chicken restaurant in central Alabama that liberally dust's the  chicken after frying with MSG crystals, the crystals can been seen all over the crust. The customers love it. 

I am a BIG fan of MSG (I use the Accent brand because that’s what I easily have access to).  Whenever I’m cooking and a little something is missing, that’s usually MSG.  MSG is essential on fried chicken.  I can say that that I truly mastered how to cook fried chicken during the pandemic.  KFC sucks when compared to mine, no wonder that they are ditching their “finger licking good” moto.  I have tons of MSG in my breading mixture and I also dust immediately after taking out of the fryer.  It is good hot but also cold 😂

paqman

I have no clue what Skyline chili is supposed to taste like (and Cincinnati chili for that matter) but nutritional yeast is a keeper.  I’m impressed... I pretty much followed the recipe except that I did not have onion/garlic powder on hand so I used fresh onions/garlic instead and I added....MSG + Worcestershire sauce (maybe 2-3TBSP).  Again, I have no clue what it was supposed to taste but next time I will scale down cloves, increase cinnamon and add a bit more cayenne.  I loved the cheesy flavor from the nutritional yeast!  Oh yes, I also replaced the fleischman yeast with nutritional yeast (did not like the idea).  The recipe just said to cover with water, I used 4 cups and simmered for a total of 3 hours.

Botch

paqman said:

I have no clue what Skyline chili is supposed to taste like (and Cincinnati chili for that matter) but nutritional yeast is a keeper.  I’m impressed... I pretty much followed the recipe except that I did not have onion/garlic powder on hand so I used fresh onions/garlic instead and I added....MSG + Worcestershire sauce (maybe 2-3TBSP).  Again, I have no clue what it was supposed to taste but next time I will scale down cloves, increase cinnamon and add a bit more cayenne.  I loved the cheesy flavor from the nutritional yeast!  Oh yes, I also replaced the fleischman yeast with nutritional yeast (did not like the idea).  The recipe just said to cover with water, I used 4 cups and simmered for a total of 3 hours.

Wish I could taste yours, you made some interesting mods.  I can tell you that your final product could use another cup of water, at least, to match the chain's chili consistency, which is, in my opinion, too watery for chili-dogs.  FWIW.   

paqman

Using it on chili dogs was the goal.  Consistency is good for that but it could use a tiny bit more liquid.  1 cup would be too much for the way I like it.

I think the guy in the video said it is better the next day and he is right.

Recipe is a keeper and I’ll be exploring other uses for the nutritional yeast.  Thanks for sharing!

SmokeyPitt

caliking said:

I bought some a while ago, when I was in my hand-pulled noodles phase

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2020/04/hand-pulled-lamian-noodles.html

I'm still going through my hand-pulled noodle phase.