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MaskedMarvel
MaskedMarvel Posts: 3,142
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greetings friends,

just got this in the email...


http://biggreenegg.com/whats-hot-0618/

The EGGspander..

is it a woo? 

8-Damien

Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro!


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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 22,970
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    MaskedMarvel said:
    greetings friends,

    just got this in the email...


    http://biggreenegg.com/whats-hot-0618/

    The EGGspander..

    is it a woo? 

    8-Damien

    It's a carbon copy of one...
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    This gadget looks oddly familiar :pensive:
    @tjv
    #justsayingisall
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,029
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    If BGE is comfortable ripping off others I'll have no problem telling people to buy red kamados...

    What a slap in the face for the CGS. I've bleed green for the last 8+ years. This is just a low blow. I lost a lot of respect for BGE. 
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,314
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    Can someone explain how you're supposed to flip those fried eggs there underneath them biscuits? If they're going to produce marketing materials, they should at least use scenarios that actually work in real life. 


    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    SonVolt said:
    Can someone explain how you're supposed to flip those fried eggs there underneath them biscuits? If they're going to produce marketing materials, they should at least use scenarios that actually work in real life. 


    Very ridiculous staged photo. But some idiot will think it's a live cook.
    No sign of the round silicon egg rings that were used or heat gloves needed to handle the racks and stone.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • milesvdustin
    milesvdustin Posts: 2,882
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    What a ripoff. This is low BGE, very low. 

    2 LBGE, Blackstone 36, Jumbo Joe

    Egging in Southern Illinois (Marion)

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  • mEGG_My_Day
    mEGG_My_Day Posts: 1,653
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    Anyone know what they are charging for this knock-off??  Obviously they have very little R&D in it.

    I’m a little surprised their new cap doesn’t have a cone lid on it!!
    Memphis, TN 

    LBGE, 2 SBGE, Hasty-Bake Gourmet
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  • Miked125
    Miked125 Posts: 481
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    I have the original - an AR combo with spider. I don't like copy cats....
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    mEGG_My_Day said:
    I’m a little surprised their new cap doesn’t have a cone lid on it!!
    You know how you see commercials that say "batteries sold separately"
    Well....wait for it... the cap will be an add-on aka sold separately.



    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,314
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    I love copy cats as long as the quality is equal and the price is less. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    Patronage is earned. Stealing intellectual property and stamping your logo & calling it a  different name is still dirty.  Red is looking better each day especially when it comes to innovation.  They also apparently listen to their customer base and apply that in R&D.

    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,108
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    Maybe BGE didn't know about Tom, and some intern submitted it as her idea?

    Btw, plan to keep buying from Tom.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,832
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Maybe BGE didn't know about Tom, and some intern submitted it as her idea?

    Btw, plan to keep buying from Tom.
    Uhh...no.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • Spaightlabs
    Spaightlabs Posts: 2,349
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    In before it is sunk!
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  • Biggreenpharmacist
    Biggreenpharmacist Posts: 4,341
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Maybe BGE didn't know about Tom, and some intern submitted it as her idea?

    Btw, plan to keep buying from Tom.
    Yeah, I'm sure that's what happened....................   

    Little Rock, AR

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  • SonVolt
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    NPHuskerFL said:
    Patronage is earned. Stealing intellectual property and stamping your logo & calling it a  different name is still dirty.  Red is looking better each day especially when it comes to innovation.  They also apparently listen to their customer base and apply that in R&D.



    That's not how capitalism works. Does "Tom" have a patent on his products? If so he's got nothing to worry about. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • Spaightlabs
    Spaightlabs Posts: 2,349
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    SonVolt said:

     Does "Tom" have a patent on his products? If so he's got nothing to worry about. 
    That's not particularly accurate.  Patent enforcement cases are very expensive to prosecute and unless you have specific policy from one of the 4 markets that offer the coverage you are 100% on your own as it not covered by any standard 'BOP' type policy.  Even if you have the coverage, it is reimbursement of expense basis, so you need to have a bit f depth to your pockets before you start.

    IP lawyers don't work on a contingency only basis on small claims like this, as they'd rather get the $700 per hour
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    SonVolt said:
    That's not how capitalism works. Does "Tom" have a patent on his products? If so he's got nothing to worry about. 
    Garsh.  I didn't know I could get such valuable information on the egghead forum.  Sorta sad for anybody that's spent money in a degree in business or business law...eyeroll...
    Apparently some lessons are unteachable.  




    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,108
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    Just because you can, does not mean you should.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,314
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    NPHuskerFL said:
    SonVolt said:
    That's not how capitalism works. Does "Tom" have a patent on his products? If so he's got nothing to worry about. 
    Garsh.  I didn't know I could get such valuable information on the egghead forum.  Sorta sad for anybody that's spent money in a degree in business or business law...eyeroll...
    Apparently some lessons are unteachable.  




    Well I certainly don't have my undergrad in business, but if you do then I can't help but notice the irony of a business major poopooing market competition. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • TEXASBGE2018
    TEXASBGE2018 Posts: 3,831
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    Are we sure this wasn't so much a knock on CGS as it was a blatant ripoff of KJ? These new additions look to me to be much more of a slap in their face than ripping on a relatively smaller aftermarket shop like CGS. I don't know enough of the background. Did KJ rip off CGS as well? 


    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    @SonVolt Nope, I'm don't hold a business degree. I'm a regular Joe blue collar HVAC/R technician guy.  But, imho most entrepreneurs (& I know many of them) would lean hard that it's not cool to borrow, steal, etc another company's idea or invention.  I'm all for honest market competition.  It's a healthy and fair thing for businesses to have.
    It is no different to take somebody's invention and claim it as your own as it is to take someone's photograph of food and claim it as your own. I have only had to deal with this two times thus far. I know of several other people that have had this occur to as well. I believe @Griffin & @Dyal_SC may have had their photos lifted as well. :wink:
    Stealing is stealing.
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,314
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Just because you can, does not mean you should.


    Why? I remember this same "uproar" when MS released their own browser (IE) and killed NetScape. Does anyone really care now, 23 years later? Nope. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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    SonVolt Posts: 3,314
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    NPHuskerFL said:
    @SonVolt Nope, I'm don't hold a business degree. I'm a regular Joe blue collar HVAC/R technician guy.  But, imho most entrepreneurs (& I know many of them) would lean hard that it's not cool to borrow, steal, etc another company's idea or invention.  I'm all for honest market competition.  It's a healthy and fair thing for businesses to have.
    It is no different to take somebody's invention and claim it as your own as it is to take someone's photograph of food and claim it as your own. I have only had to deal with this two times thus far. I know of several other people that have had this occur to as well. I believe @Griffin & @Dyal_SC may have had their photos lifted as well. :wink:
    Stealing is stealing.


    I understand what you're getting at... but how can you say you aren't cool with  stealing another company's ideas and then turn around and say "Red is looking better each day"?  KJ is essentially a rip-off of the BGE... 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • TEXASBGE2018
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    SonVolt said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Just because you can, does not mean you should.


    Why? I remember this same "uproar" when IE came out and killed NetScape. Does anyone really care now? Nope. 

    Ask Queen how they feel about Vanilla Ice. Dude made millions of dollars and all he did was add 1 note to a song. Claimed it as his own.


    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,832
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    SonVolt said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Just because you can, does not mean you should.


    Why? I remember this same "uproar" when MS released their own browser (IE) and killed NetScape. Does anyone really care now, 23 years later? Nope. 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

    And yes, I know that was monopoly, not patent, trademark, or copyright.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • SonVolt
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    TEXASBGE2018 said:
    SonVolt said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Just because you can, does not mean you should.


    Why? I remember this same "uproar" when IE came out and killed NetScape. Does anyone really care now? Nope. 

    Ask Queen how they feel about Vanilla Ice. Dude made millions of dollars and all he did was add 1 note to a song. Claimed it as his own.


    Not the best metaphor, but sure why not - I'll roll with that (in my 5.0). The surviving members of Queen are essentially British royalty and living a very posh life in Europe somewhere.  Last I checked in, Vanilla Ice was struggling to stay relevant on VH1's Surreal Life over a decade ago... by this point he's probably a waiting tables at Denny's. I'd say it all worked itself out.  
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