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Plant-based burgers.

500500 Posts: 2,727
These are at Kroger now. Mrs. 500 won’t get them because they are 8 WW points which is more than lean burgers we usually get. So my question is does the extra fat and calories these have offset the ill effects of eating red meat?
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  • The_StacheThe_Stache Posts: 820
    "the ill effects of eating red meat" ?  B)

    In a full time state of entropious nebulinity as Head Brewmeister and Chief Flatulator @ Rancho Loco Brewery and Flatutorium, Kirkland, TN

  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 17,687
    I’ve had one and they actually aren’t bad.

    That said,look at the list of ingredients and that will tell you all you need to know. The ones I have seen are just processed crap selling themselves as a healthy alternative to eating whole food. Any time your “plant based” food has 20 ingredients, run. 
    1- LGBE
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  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 17,687
    The Beyond Burger: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.
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    I- Blackstone 36" Griddle
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  • danv23danv23 Posts: 813
    The Beyond Burger: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.

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  • 500500 Posts: 2,727
    So it’s no different than any other generically modified food that we eat. 
    Large BGE; Midlothian, Virginia
    I like Pig Butts and I can not lie.
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  • AcnAcn Posts: 2,542
    I’ve had one and they actually aren’t bad.

    That said,look at the list of ingredients and that will tell you all you need to know. The ones I have seen are just processed crap selling themselves as a healthy alternative to eating whole food. Any time your “plant based” food has 20 ingredients, run. 
    I haven’t had these so I can’t speak to the first part, but agree with the second.  If you really want to look at a non-meat burger, I’ve made Serious Eats’s Black Bean burger a couple of times and they're pretty good.

    https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/03/the-best-black-bean-burger-recipe.html

    LBGE

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  • GulfcoastguyGulfcoastguy Posts: 1,664
    That is what food eats.
  • 500500 Posts: 2,727
    That is what food eats.
    Oh. OK. So I can say I’m vegetarian 
    Large BGE; Midlothian, Virginia
    I like Pig Butts and I can not lie.
    "Barbecue is a journey, one meal at a time."
  • 500500 Posts: 2,727
    And so these aren’t healthy per-se but it give vegans a chance to eat “meat” again. As I understand it, when cooked, it gets juicy like beef. 
    Large BGE; Midlothian, Virginia
    I like Pig Butts and I can not lie.
    "Barbecue is a journey, one meal at a time."
  • 500 said:
    And so these aren’t healthy per-se but it give vegans a chance to eat “meat” again. As I understand it, when cooked, it gets juicy like beef. 

    "Brought to you by bourbon, bacon, and a series of questionable life decisions."

    South of Nashville, TN

  • 500500 Posts: 2,727
    The “Impossible” Burger. Michael Symon now serves these in his B Spot Burger restaurants. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2014-11-06/the-impossible-burger-made-entirely-from-plants
    Large BGE; Midlothian, Virginia
    I like Pig Butts and I can not lie.
    "Barbecue is a journey, one meal at a time."
  • @Acn those black bean patties do look pretty tasty. @500 that may be a good solution for ya if you’ve gone to the dark side. 

    My wife used to buy a similar kind of processed store bought ones as a healthy quick lunch. Every time she heated them up I told her the house smelled like chemicals and cumin. 

    "Brought to you by bourbon, bacon, and a series of questionable life decisions."

    South of Nashville, TN

  • BotchBotch Posts: 6,336
    Just grill a large portabella mushroom cap, better than most beef burgers.  
     
    And, "when cooked, it gets juicy like beef."!   ;) 

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  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 4,940
    The Beyond Burger: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.
    It's always a little "scary" when you breakdown the ingredients in a foodstuff.


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  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 17,687
    500 said:
    So it’s no different than any other generically modified food that we eat. 
    Correct. Junk food pretending to be healthy like so may others. I hate when processed foods like this pretend to be healthier for you to eat. Pasture raised meat is better for you than this garbage. 
    1- LGBE
    1- KBQ C-60 (The Dishwasher)
    I- Blackstone 36" Griddle
    1- Sweet-A$$ Roccbox Pizza Oven
    1-Very Understanding and Forgiving Wife
  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 17,687

    HeavyG said:
    The Beyond Burger: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.
    It's always a little "scary" when you breakdown the ingredients in a foodstuff.

    Not scary at all but I’ll take the nutritional value of a whole egg or pasture raised meat over a factory processed veggie patty any day of the week. 
    1- LGBE
    1- KBQ C-60 (The Dishwasher)
    I- Blackstone 36" Griddle
    1- Sweet-A$$ Roccbox Pizza Oven
    1-Very Understanding and Forgiving Wife
  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 17,687

    I love plant based burgers.  They contain just one ingredient.

    Saw a great line not too long ago that said “you are what you eat eats”

    that really hit hime
    for me 
    1- LGBE
    1- KBQ C-60 (The Dishwasher)
    I- Blackstone 36" Griddle
    1- Sweet-A$$ Roccbox Pizza Oven
    1-Very Understanding and Forgiving Wife
  • gdenbygdenby Posts: 5,940
    My take on it is that there is likely an insignificant health difference between the "beyond burger" and standard low fat beef. I've read differing takes on the goodness or badness of coconut oil. Just now, it seems to be a fad food.

    I don't know the specifics behind the WW ratings. For the plant patties, I suspect it is because the 2nd ingredient is oil. Current information indicates that fats/oils are in themselves not much of a problem, because most of it is simply excreted, not digested. Both plant and animal.

    Looking at the ingredient list, lots of effort was made to put something together that has a good texture. Don't know what the cost is, but one could probably make a fine patty w. a bit of work for a whole lot less. 40 years ago, I had a very good black bean burger from a lady who was a dedicated vegetarian. My elder daughter, also a vegetarian, is getting a reputation for making burgers out of plants. She's doing it on a shoe string. What I've had from the market pre-made have tasted OK, but really, $.75 for a 3 oz slab that is basically adzuki beans is a huge mark up for convenience. Never mind the nutritional fetish.
  • cookingdude555cookingdude555 Posts: 1,508
    I think we need to work on getting along. Can’t we just have a beef patty AND a plant patty together on one bun? Double cheese of course. We’re not idiots here. 

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  • BobDangerBobDanger Posts: 63
    There’s always room for all of God’s creatures...right next to the mashed potatoes.
  • westernbbqwesternbbq Posts: 2,143
    Since cows eat plants wouldnt beef burgers fall into the plant based category?
  • zahuliozahulio Posts: 53
    500 said:
    The “Impossible” Burger. Michael Symon now serves these in his B Spot Burger restaurants. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2014-11-06/the-impossible-burger-made-entirely-from-plants
    I've had this "Impossible" Burger at Hopdoddy's Burger restaurant. It's delicious! It tastes like a beef burger but without any gaminess. 

    As others have pointed out, it's not particularly healthier than beef. It still has a significant amount of saturated fat.
  • YEMTreyYEMTrey Posts: 5,670
    Steve 
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  • PoppasGrillPoppasGrill Posts: 210
    What will they come up with next....?
    .Soy hotdogs and Tofu bacon.
    Yep.
    My son is anti-meat and most by-products, took us out to lunch at a vegan restaurant in Orlando. The only thing I had that tasted decent, IMO , was the pan fried potatoes. 
    And I won’t get started on the attitudes some of the patrons of this establishment, save that for another thread.
  • Fred19FlintstoneFred19Flintstone Posts: 7,462
    I remember years ago the first Mrs. Flintstone bought a popular brand of frozen meatless burgers for supper.  After thawing them out, I put them on a hot grill.  No sizzle.  Silence.  I cooked them and took a bite.  I guess no sizzle means no flavor.  Garbage.
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 26,692
    The Beyond Burger: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.
    Doesn't look too bad.  I don't like the generic "natural flavors", that could mean anything.  Hopefully no trans fatty acids in that oil. 

    If it tastes good, couldn't be much worse healthwise than a bag of Doritos or a real fatty burger.  Just like red meat or anything, really, don't eat it every day.  
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  • blastingblasting Posts: 5,506

    Last night we had Costco's chipotle black been burgers.  It was ok with enough other condiments.  

    Funny, today I smoked two chuckies and a meatloaf - for no reason.  I suspect I was feeling guilty for the veggie burgers.  The world feels right again.

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