OT: Zero Turn Mower Suggestions Wanted

Toxarch

There are a lot of yard aficionados here so I thought I'd ask for mower suggestions. I've had a yard tractor style riding mower for years. It works ok but it's aging and I'm kinda tired of fixing it. I'll use it for the rougher stuff by the road and use the ZT for the nice part of the yard. On 10 acres, around 2 acres of regular mowed yard, the really rough stuff gets the pull behind brush hog mower behind the ATV.

Anything I need to know, look for, when buying? I'm wanting dual hydrostatic, around 54" or less, comfortable seat, around $5k +/- budget, will be local dealer so I won't have a huge problem fixing it. Getting suggestions/brands/models to look at or avoid right now. I've read in the past to go for a welded deck but those seem to be commercial models and expensive. 

pgprescott

I bought one of these last year. I’m pleased. Paid $100 over the 48” price. There are better ones I’m sure, but like you said they get into commercial grade. This has a fabricated deck. Under 5k. 

SouthGaSmoker

I just purchased a Gravely that replaced my old lawn tractor.  Great bang for the buck(~$3300) and impressive improvement in the quality of the cut.  For $5K, you could get a beast.

billt01

I have an ExMark I purchased about 18 years ago. I upgraded to a 22HP Kawasaki V-Twin on it last year from a 19 HP Kohler which was on its last leg

One of the best purchases for ROI I have ever made.

I cant speak to the new one, but the older ones are built like tanks.

AppStateDDS

I bought a Bad Boy mower last summer, a larger "commercial" one.  Definitely has a heavy, well-build deck on it.  I do a lot of mowing though.  They have different levels of mowers, residential to commercial, all sizes.  Maybe something to consider.  There are many other good mowers out there of course, and no doubt others will chime in.  

sheetmetalpete

I bought a Toro Timecutter SS5000 the other year with a Kawasaki.  It's a great runner but I'm not thrilled with the hydraulics.  It's super touchy on wet turf.  If it's not completely dry turning with a bit of weight transfer or slowing from high speed will lock up a wheel(s) and skid through the turf tearing it up.

If I look past that, for less than $4K I got a 50" zero turn with a bagger.

Coldspring

I bought a Xmark about 3 years ago, it is the low end of the commercial class. The one thing I would change would be to by the upgraded seat (they called it a "air ride" then) my yard is not real smooth and it will beat you to death on rough areas. Be sure to check the width of gates etc. the cutting width is not the same as the overall width. I think it was in the 5k range. Scag is also very popular in our area but  you sit lower and it was harder to get out of and at 75 I know that getting up and down is not going to get any easier. Being lower is nice if you need to mow under low branches.

GrillSgt

We mow 20+ acres on 2 farms weekly and I have had several different brands. For the money the eXmark is currently as dependable as you can buy for the money spent. One caution is steer clear of the John Deere. Most of my tractors are green but their mower is a piece of junk.

tarheelmatt

If full commercial, you'll have a hard time getting a 52" at $5k or under.  Might have to go to the "almost" commercial of the larger names or buy a used commercial mower.  

For a full two acres, I'd go with a 60" deck.  Right now, I have a Toro Z Master 450 series (it's a 2006 model) and with my yard plus our land that's about 2 acres, takes a while.  

When my brother drops his Exmark Lazer Z 60" deck on that two acres, it's a difference between night and day between the two.  There's a big difference in price too, mind you.  

Lawn mowers are like these grills.  Who's your dealer and will they service "the little guy", that's the question.  Find a great dealer and you really cannot go wrong with the big names like Toro, Exmark, Scag, Hustler, Wright, etc.  

Go to your dealer(s) and see if he has a demo mower or mowers to try out, then base your buying off that.  

Sometimes dealers look to off load their demo mowers too, and you can get a great deal on those, and still maintain warranty.  

DoubleEgger

You won’t touch one for $5k but a Walker puts the nicest cut on grass I’ve ever seen. 

SemolinaPilchard

I know someone who is on blood thinners. He bought one, then had to sell it and get one with a shock absorber. The original mower had him urinating blood. He said it was ok if he drove it slowly, but then it took just as long to cut his yard as with the old tractor style mower.

tarheelmatt

DoubleEgger said:

You won’t touch one for $5k but a Walker puts the nicest cut on grass I’ve ever seen. 

I agree.  I love the look of a Walker cut lawn, however Walkers are really a niche mower. One thing I don't like about Walkers are their stripes.  I hate the tail wheel stripe.  Almost looks like a walk behind with Velke.   

Ground speed isn't near what the others have, however for these high end lawns where you see them, ground speed isn't needed.  

Going back to your needs for the mower and your dealer.  

GrillSgt

Only go with a 60" deck if your yard doesn't have many dips and rises in it. If so you might consider a 48". 

tarheelmatt

GrillSgt said:

Only go with a 60" deck if your yard doesn't have many dips and rises in it. If so you might consider a 48". 

I'll have to disagree with this.  The scalping doesn't really present itself until on the 72" decks.  

My 2.25 acres of land was a corn and soybean field, with ruts, my brothers 60" cut doesn't scalp at all.  

Majority of mowers you see on trailers will be 60" and guarantee they're not cutting silk smooth properties.   

billt01

To put things into perspective, the Kawasaki v-Twin motor was $2,300..

My wife had a hard time spending 23 hundy on something which was 18 years old..

Still, a new one was about ~10K

GrillSgt

tarheelmatt said:

GrillSgt said:

Only go with a 60" deck if your yard doesn't have many dips and rises in it. If so you might consider a 48". 

I'll have to disagree with this.  The scalping doesn't really present itself until on the 72" decks.  

My 2.25 acres of land was a corn and soybean field, with ruts, my brothers 60" cut doesn't scalp at all.  

Majority of mowers you see on trailers will be 60" and guarantee they're not cutting silk smooth properties.   

You can disagree all you want but we've been mowing on 800 acres for 30 years. If the yard has some very "interesting" dips and dives a smaller deck makes that part easier. The fact that you are mowing in a former grain field tells me that it's fairly level. Of course any size deck is going to mow easily over those narrow furrows.

tarheelmatt

billt01 said:

To put things into perspective, the Kawasaki v-Twin motor was $2,300..

My wife had a hard time spending 23 hundy on something which was 18 years old..

Still, a new one was about ~10K

That's the beauty behind these mowers is items are easily replaceable when they do finally give out.  

The mower I have now is 12 years old and so far still only has 450 hours on it, which for a commercial mower, it's still new (motor wise).  

billt01

GrillSgt said:

tarheelmatt said:

GrillSgt said:

Only go with a 60" deck if your yard doesn't have many dips and rises in it. If so you might consider a 48". 

I'll have to disagree with this.  The scalping doesn't really present itself until on the 72" decks.  

My 2.25 acres of land was a corn and soybean field, with ruts, my brothers 60" cut doesn't scalp at all.  

Majority of mowers you see on trailers will be 60" and guarantee they're not cutting silk smooth properties.   

You can disagree all you want but we've been mowing on 800 acres for 30 years. If the yard has some very "interesting" dips and dives a smaller deck makes that part easier. The fact that you are mowing in a former grain field tells me that it's fairly level. Of course any size deck is going to mow easily over those narrow furrows.

I ain't mowin' no 800 acres with a 0-turn...

Its gonna start with "bush" and end with a "hog"!

SSQUAL612

Get @RRP to ask his neighbors gardener...they have 2 & I hear they’re fast 

scdaf

I mow 2 acres with an Ariens IconX52 with a Kawasaki engine and a 10 gauge welded deck.  It has to be, by far, the best value in a semi-commercial mower out there @ $2995.   Great seat, great cut,  great buy.  Home Depot sells them, read the reviews.

GrillSgt

Hahaha. We mowed the roadways, barn lots, alleyways and yards that go with an 800 acre horse farm. We also used 2 different size batwing mowers in the fields to give it the best looking cut. 15’ and 20’, also used a 10’ single deck multi blade for great looking cuts around the stallion barn. 

DuckDogDr

My buddy has a commercial exmark , swears by it and his dealer. He's done enough business they know him by name.

My dad has a gravely mower...I like it but dont love it.

tarheelmatt

GrillSgt said:

Hahaha. We mowed the roadways, barn lots, alleyways and yards that go with an 800 acre horse farm. We also used 2 different size batwing mowers in the fields to give it the best looking cut. 15’ and 20’, also used a 10’ single deck multi blade for great looking cuts around the stallion barn. 

Can I get your autograph?  

GrillSgt

If you sign your book for me.

gmac

I will be the one Exmark detractor. I have a smaller one, home grade can’t recall all the details but when I engage the drive it can drop power and essentially stalls out if you don’t shove it back into park. I’ve had it serviced, didn’t help. 
Now, it doesn’t seem to want to run for more than about 2 mins before it quits. Maybe needs a carb kit, changed all the filters etc. with no improvement. 
Im sure I just got the first one built on a Monday but I am looking to dump it and buy a new one. 

tarheelmatt

GrillSgt said:

tarheelmatt said:

GrillSgt said:

Only go with a 60" deck if your yard doesn't have many dips and rises in it. If so you might consider a 48". 

I'll have to disagree with this.  The scalping doesn't really present itself until on the 72" decks.  

My 2.25 acres of land was a corn and soybean field, with ruts, my brothers 60" cut doesn't scalp at all.  

Majority of mowers you see on trailers will be 60" and guarantee they're not cutting silk smooth properties.   

You can disagree all you want but we've been mowing on 800 acres for 30 years. If the yard has some very "interesting" dips and dives a smaller deck makes that part easier. The fact that you are mowing in a former grain field tells me that it's fairly level. Of course any size deck is going to mow easily over those narrow furrows.

Didn't mean to get your little undies in a bind sarge.  

It's not a grain field, it's was for corn and soybeans.  I ride that land every two weeks, and it's not level.  If only my back could talk to you.  Haha.  

For what this fella has, the 60" will be well received over a 48".  I live it an breath it.  Mowed commercially for years too.  

Now, where's my autograph! 

ryantt

The one piece of advice I’d give you is this,talk to the local dealers and see what they have to offer.   I have an exmark(non ZTR) and love it; however, if I didn’t have a great local dealer I’d have passed.   Nothing stinks more than needing work done and having to drive hrs away to get it taken care of.   Also look at the local landscape guys what’s on their truck and who do they buy from.   When your livelihood depends your equipment and the after the sales service you receive it speaks volumes for the company the trust.   

tarheelmatt

GrillSgt said:

We mow 20+ acres on 2 farms weekly and I have had several different brands. For the money the eXmark is currently as dependable as you can buy for the money spent. One caution is steer clear of the John Deere. Most of my tractors are green but their mower is a piece of junk.

Agreed with Deere and their mowers.  They get most of their fan base due to fleet programs.  

I'm a Toro/Exmark guy too, but have been a fan of Scags too.  

tarheelmatt

@GrillSgt check out what Wright has out these days.  Looked promising, though I'm sorta the type of if I can stand, why not sit though.  

https://youtu.be/VlNyOigPGiA

milesvdustin

I see lots of Scag around here with the mowing companies 

fishlessman

just hire this guy

https://youtu.be/cQ-yjxi2Z4A