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  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
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    Dobie said:
     Like we know half the **** that really goes on in the White House anyways. 
    W. apologies to the forum owners, this is so not the place to discuss this.

    We don't know .10% of what goes on. Prob'ly way less.

    I don't have the original on hand but, Daniel (Pentagon Papers) Ellsberg advised incoming nat'l security advisor Henry Kissinger something like this...

    'Henry, you are about to learn some things you never imagined. Afterwards, try not to despise the American public for being stupid. They don't know what you will.'
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    Sherryjames said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    What we’ve seen over the past year or so is just how much our system is held together not by rules so much as norms, and as a result just how easy it is for significant damage to be done.
    By significant damage in the past year, you mean a low in unemployment in over a decade, an all time high Dow, significant decrease in taxes for the majority of Americans, a decrease of 40% in illegal immigration and an almost abolished ISIS?  

    Like I’m curious if maybe you need professional help. 
    And I’m curious why you don’t just ask with your regular account.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,539
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    gdenby said:
    Dobie said:
     Like we know half the **** that really goes on in the White House anyways. 
    W. apologies to the forum owners, this is so not the place to discuss this.

    We don't know .10% of what goes on. Prob'ly way less.

    I don't have the original on hand but, Daniel (Pentagon Papers) Ellsberg advised incoming nat'l security advisor Henry Kissinger something like this...

    'Henry, you are about to learn some things you never imagined. Afterwards, try not to despise the American public for being stupid. They don't know what you will.'
    People pay taxes on the left...Hey big government,  throw them a bone
    People pay taxes on the right...Hey big government, throw them a bone.

    Oh but to be the tax man...they have all the bones


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  • JohnInCarolina
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    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    What we’ve seen over the past year or so is just how much our system is held together not by rules so much as norms, and as a result just how easy it is for significant damage to be done.
    be patient...it will swing back your way...
    My way?  What exactly is that?  I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport, and frankly I think it’s a problem that so many do.

    I just hope the next President is someone who respects the office and who understands that political power isn’t there to be abused just because it can be.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Sherryjames said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    What we’ve seen over the past year or so is just how much our system is held together not by rules so much as norms, and as a result just how easy it is for significant damage to be done.
    By significant damage in the past year, you mean a low in unemployment in over a decade, an all time high Dow, significant decrease in taxes for the majority of Americans, a decrease of 40% in illegal immigration and an almost abolished ISIS?  

    Like I’m curious if maybe you need professional help. 
    And I’m curious why you don’t just ask with your regular account.  
    you mean @nolaegghead ?
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,539
    edited January 2018
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    What we’ve seen over the past year or so is just how much our system is held together not by rules so much as norms, and as a result just how easy it is for significant damage to be done.
    be patient...it will swing back your way...
    My way?  What exactly is that?  I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport, and frankly I think it’s a problem that so many do.

    I just hope the next President is someone who respects the office and who understands that political power isn’t there to be abused just because it can be.
    @JohnInCarolina

    "My way?  What exactly is that?  I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport, and frankly I think it’s a problem that so many do."

    apologies...y'all's way
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  • billt01
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    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
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  • Legume
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    Focker said:
    It was the infinite power, of the glowing golden unicorn hua hua, that brought it down.  I wouldn't tug on his T-bone.

    I bet you don't say that very often, but you have to balance your standards with availability.  Good on you for staying away from the animals, that's something.
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • billt01
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    There are definitely two sides or “teams” which make this system work...
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
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  • Dobie
    Dobie Posts: 3,365
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Dobie said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Dobie said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    The irony of this thread is that the current US President is actively working to try and stop the publication of a book.
    Wow first guy to ever try that....
    I think he is, actually.  Do you remember another instance where a President’s lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to a book publisher?  
    Doesn’t matter, he’s using the legal system not sending special ops to snuff people out about it. If the law denies the request so be it. We have a system and it’s not perfect but it’s going to decide this issue. Like we know half the **** that really goes on in the White House anyways. 
    So when you suggested he wasn’t the first guy to try this you were... just making stuff up?
    Others have tried to block releases of potentially damaging information and have caused stuff to be buried in fear of slander, defamation suits etc. Will this hold up in court with the public figures involved, not likely. Do you think if I knew how to make a nuclear bomb they would let me write a how to book about it and hand out signed copies at the bookstore? 
    Jacksonville FL
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 31,032
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    Dobie said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Dobie said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Dobie said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    The irony of this thread is that the current US President is actively working to try and stop the publication of a book.
    Wow first guy to ever try that....
    I think he is, actually.  Do you remember another instance where a President’s lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to a book publisher?  
    Doesn’t matter, he’s using the legal system not sending special ops to snuff people out about it. If the law denies the request so be it. We have a system and it’s not perfect but it’s going to decide this issue. Like we know half the **** that really goes on in the White House anyways. 
    So when you suggested he wasn’t the first guy to try this you were... just making stuff up?
    Others have tried to block releases of potentially damaging information and have caused stuff to be buried in fear of slander, defamation suits etc.
    We have not had a previous President issue a cease and desist letter to a publisher of a book trying to stop the presses.  It’s crazy.  Even folks inside the White House know it’s not a good idea, because he really doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on, and all it does is draw more attention to it.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • g8golfer
    g8golfer Posts: 1,025
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    John is a racist bigot by the way 
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,539
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    g8golfer said:
    John is a racist bigot by the way 
    Still like him, regardless 
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    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 31,032
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    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    There are definitely two sides or “teams” which make this system work...
    We have a country, and two main political parties.  When people view things as their “team” winning only if the other “team” loses, it’s a problem.  It prevents politicians from working together if they’re in two different parties.  It leads to things like folks not being able to admit that a politician from their own party is a serial assaulter of women.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • lousubcap
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    You've got that sinking feeling...
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,539
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    There are definitely two sides or “teams” which make this system work...
    We have a country, and two main political parties.  When people view things as their “team” winning only if the other “team” loses, it’s a problem.  It prevents politicians from working together if they’re in two different parties.  It leads to things like folks not being able to admit that a politician from their own party is a serial assaulter of women.
    Are you speaking of Bill or Donald?
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
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    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
    Ola, Ga

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  • Woodchunk
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPbAiFsGME
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 31,032
    edited January 2018
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    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    There are definitely two sides or “teams” which make this system work...
    We have a country, and two main political parties.  When people view things as their “team” winning only if the other “team” loses, it’s a problem.  It prevents politicians from working together if they’re in two different parties.  It leads to things like folks not being able to admit that a politician from their own party is a serial assaulter of women.
    Are you speaking of Bill or Donald?
    Both.  That’s kind of the point.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • billt01
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    billt01 said:
    @JohnInCarolina

    "I don’t really view all of this as some kind of team sport"

    isn't it though?
    Maybe Team America.
    There are definitely two sides or “teams” which make this system work...
    We have a country, and two main political parties.  When people view things as their “team” winning only if the other “team” loses, it’s a problem.  It prevents politicians from working together if they’re in two different parties.  It leads to things like folks not being able to admit that a politician from their own party is a serial assaulter of women.
    Are you speaking of Bill or Donald?
    Both.  That’s kind of the point.
    Guess I’m missing your point
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  • thetrim
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    Im tired of betting threads will get sunk too quickly.   I’m gonna say this will make it thru The Weekend and be the highlight of many of our Frigid Friday Festivities.   
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    XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP
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    EIB 6 Oct 95
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  • lousubcap
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    Only if you search for it as it is headed down the page and nothing will get it back to the top.  Of course the buffalo has not fully struck.  TBD.
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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  • GrillSgt
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    Definitely some smh stuff. https://www.yahoo.com/news/10-things-explosive-new-book-drawing-fire-fury-trump-160710575.html
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  • DoubleEgger
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    Woodchunk said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPbAiFsGME
    #64
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    GrillSgt said:
    Definitely some smh stuff. https://www.yahoo.com/news/10-things-explosive-new-book-drawing-fire-fury-trump-160710575.html
    If even half the stuff being reported is true, it's a miracle there haven't been larger phuck-ups.  We're fortunate that this is a White House who hasn't faced a genuine external crisis yet.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • RajunCajun
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    25,295.87 for the record
    The problem with a problem is that you don't know it's a problem until it's a problem, and that is a big problem.
    Holding the company together with three spreadsheets and two cans connected by a long piece of string.
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  • thetrim
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    25 went the way of randomness @Hans61, but randomness got clipped super quick.
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  • Hans61
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    thetrim said:
    25 went the way of randomness @Hans61, but randomness got clipped super quick.
    That was a fun thread while it lasted!  Probably the most popular one I ever started :-) 
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • thetrim
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    Reminded me of an old joke.  Two guys were pissing off a bridge.  One guy was named John and he said, "Man, this water's cold!"  The other guy was named The Donald, and he looked over at John and said, "Yeah, it's deep too!!!"
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