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She says I can only rub it a certain way!

My spousal unit of 45ish years (Pocohontas Goldstein, middle TN's only Native American Jewish Princess) presenting me with quite a challenge and I would appreciate any help you might provide....

Her dietary restrictions ... No Gluten (Did find that Tamari Sauce is Gluten Free), No Acid (Lemon, Lime, Tomato, etc), No Pepper (Nightshade or other), No Lactose...

Trying to come up with a tasty brine that everyone will enjoy for the Thanksgiving bird. 

Suggestions?


Kirkland, TN
2 LBGE, 1 MM


Comments

  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,132
    May the Force be with You!
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
  • 1 gallon water, 1 cup kosher salt, 1 cup brown sugar  works well for us for poultry. Brine for several hours up to a couple of days. It must be refrigerated.I got this off the net several years ago
  • Salt and sugar, basic brine.
    Plus clove, bay leaf, rosemary and thyme if desired.
    I prefer the Simon and Garfunkel brine: parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,872
    Sounds like time for a trade  ;)
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    lousubcap said:
    Sounds like time for a trade  ;)
    Financially not adviseable! :)
    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM


  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,390
    turkey is acidic
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,390
    ive done this one but prefer to put grease and herbs under the skin, duck fat with chopped herbs frozen then sliced into slivers and slid under the skin is good. bacon, onion and herbs ground fine and slid under the skin is different and good as well. kosher turkeys are already slightly brined with a dry salt, usually find them in the frozen section, look for the empire brand if you choose not to brine

    for a brine though, this is a good one, becareful picking out the soy sauce, i believe kikkomans is gluten free but check first. fresh bay leaves over the dried ones make a HUGE difference

    Posted by J Appledog on November 05, 2001 at 10:15:13:

    Cat
    shared this brine recipe with me about a year ago. I have brined
    pheasants and turkeys and quail in it with rave reviews so, wanting no
    surprises, I chose this for the turkey competition. Even some of the
    judges asked for the recipe, so here it is. Thanks again, Cat!

    Brine:
    2 cups brown sugar
    1 cup maple syrup
    3/4 cup coarse salt
    3 whole heads garlic, cloves separated, but not peeled, and bruised
    6 large bay leaves
    1-1/2 cups coarsely chopped unpeeled fresh ginger
    2 teaspoons dried chile flakes
    1-1/2 cups soy sauce
    3 quarts water
    Handful of fresh thyme sprigs

    Combine all the brine ingredients in an enamel or stainless steel
    pot. Bring to a boil, remove from heat and let cool completely. Rinse
    the turkey well, and
    put it in a large enamel, stainless steel or food-grade plastic pot
    or bucket. Cover with the cold brine and add more water if the brine
    doesn't cover the
    turkey. Put a plate on top of the turkey to hold it under the brine.
    Refrigerate for 2-4 days, turning the bird twice a day. (When you
    turn the turkey be sure to empty the brine out of the body cavity
    before you turn it or it splashes everywhere.)

    Rinse and let air dry, under refrigeration, overnight.

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    @fishlessmanThanks!!!  Thats what I'm looking for...

    Chile Flakes - Will substitute something
    Soy Sauce  - Tammari

    This is great!!!
    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM


  • SSQUAL612
    SSQUAL612 Posts: 1,186
    Bought these years ago and use the liners so it's easy clean up.  I have a small dorm fridge in the garage from when I closed my office that's perfect for brining.  
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PPRX9MO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Tyler, TX   XL BGE 2016, KJ Classic 2019,  MES, 18.5 WSM,  Akorn Jr,  36"&17" Black Stone, Adj Rig, Woo, Grill Grates, SS Smokeware Cap, KAB,  FB 300, Thermapen 
  • SSQUAL612
    SSQUAL612 Posts: 1,186
    ive done this one but prefer to put grease and herbs under the skin, duck fat with chopped herbs frozen then sliced into slivers and slid under the skin is good. bacon, onion and herbs ground fine and slid under the skin is different and good as well. kosher turkeys are already slightly brined with a dry salt, usually find them in the frozen section, look for the empire brand if you choose not to brine

    for a brine though, this is a good one, becareful picking out the soy sauce, i believe kikkomans is gluten free but check first. fresh bay leaves over the dried ones make a HUGE difference

    Posted by J Appledog on November 05, 2001 at 10:15:13:

    Cat
    shared this brine recipe with me about a year ago. I have brined
    pheasants and turkeys and quail in it with rave reviews so, wanting no
    surprises, I chose this for the turkey competition. Even some of the
    judges asked for the recipe, so here it is. Thanks again, Cat!

    Brine:
    2 cups brown sugar
    1 cup maple syrup
    3/4 cup coarse salt
    3 whole heads garlic, cloves separated, but not peeled, and bruised
    6 large bay leaves
    1-1/2 cups coarsely chopped unpeeled fresh ginger
    2 teaspoons dried chile flakes
    1-1/2 cups soy sauce
    3 quarts water
    Handful of fresh thyme sprigs

    Combine all the brine ingredients in an enamel or stainless steel
    pot. Bring to a boil, remove from heat and let cool completely. Rinse
    the turkey well, and
    put it in a large enamel, stainless steel or food-grade plastic pot
    or bucket. Cover with the cold brine and add more water if the brine
    doesn't cover the
    turkey. Put a plate on top of the turkey to hold it under the brine.
    Refrigerate for 2-4 days, turning the bird twice a day. (When you
    turn the turkey be sure to empty the brine out of the body cavity
    before you turn it or it splashes everywhere.)

    Rinse and let air dry, under refrigeration, overnight.

    Thanks for sharing this...saving this one.
    Tyler, TX   XL BGE 2016, KJ Classic 2019,  MES, 18.5 WSM,  Akorn Jr,  36"&17" Black Stone, Adj Rig, Woo, Grill Grates, SS Smokeware Cap, KAB,  FB 300, Thermapen 
  • westernbbq
    westernbbq Posts: 2,490
    Try a light circular motion.....never fails!
  • Rick...

    Let me be the first to suggest you just make a brisket. This is sounding just as daunting. 

    "Brought to you by bourbon, bacon, and a series of questionable life decisions."

    South of Nashville, TN

  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    Adam, you may have that correct...!!

    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM


  • Possumtrot
    Possumtrot Posts: 245
    edited November 2017
    @Killit_and_Grillit  You don’t understand. Rick is the guy who took apart a bevel drive Ducati just to see how it worked. Ran even better after he put it back together (no manual). He just likes to rub things.  Recipes are just another opportunity to play with something
    Near Music City in the Boro
    LBGE, Joe,Jr
    Free is better than cheap
    If it's worth telling, it's worth exaggerating


  • @Possumtrot Henry I'm not saying the man can't break the code. I'm just saying for the same amount of input we could be snacking on a delicious brisket. Or a whole pig.  =)

    "Brought to you by bourbon, bacon, and a series of questionable life decisions."

    South of Nashville, TN

  • He won’t share with me
    Near Music City in the Boro
    LBGE, Joe,Jr
    Free is better than cheap
    If it's worth telling, it's worth exaggerating


  • He won’t share with me
    Every time you two squabble this is what is playing in my mind... (but with more facial hair)


    "Brought to you by bourbon, bacon, and a series of questionable life decisions."

    South of Nashville, TN

  • SSQUAL612 said:
    Bought these years ago and use the liners so it's easy clean up.  I have a small dorm fridge in the garage from when I closed my office that's perfect for brining.  
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PPRX9MO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Thanks for the idea of using a dorm fridge for brining. Have one in the basement and I hope it still works.
    Stillwater, MN
  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    @Possumtrot Henry I'm not saying the man can't break the code. I'm just saying for the same amount of input we could be snacking on a delicious brisket. Or a whole pig.  =)
    Still working on the pig... Brisket is definitely on the menu for the weekend as well as a butt and some smoked mac and cheese....

    Turkey still is the "tradition" and if we're gonna eat it, I want it brined! ;)

    PS... Henry's just cranky because he's prepping for a probe AND he's very old!!
    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM


  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,171
    You Tennessee folk are awfully cantankerous tonight. Adam must not be getting any sleep....Henery (shaking my head), good luck....take the doc some flowers. 

    Rick.....nothing like local friends to help a brother out. We are still 3 weeks from Turkey Day....I.admire your advanced planning. No matter what brine you use, three weeks ought to do the trick.  ;)

    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • Smokinb
    Smokinb Posts: 103
    Might be easier to find a new spousal unit. ha. j/k. wet brine is the way to go, sage butter under/over skin, then baste.  Happy Thanksgiving all!
  • The_Stache
    The_Stache Posts: 1,153
    Ultimately decided to do 2 birds... a breast with a delicate brine for her and a full on brined/rubbed/butter/glazed everything for those who might be inclined to have a different (better) taste!

    Thanks to all for suggestions!!
    Kirkland, TN
    2 LBGE, 1 MM