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OT: Wire size for LONG run!

So I am erecting (teehee) a 70' tower on the high point of my property in order to get internet. I need to run power to it and it is 700' away from my breaker panel. I only need 120 volt and the equipment from the internet company uses 1 amp. What wire do I need? 

Another option would be coming off my meter disconnect, same distance involved. 

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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    So I am erecting (teehee) a 70' tower on the high point of my property in order to get internet. I need to run power to it and it is 700' away from my breaker panel. I only need 120 volt and the equipment from the internet company uses 1 amp. What wire do I need? 

    Another option would be coming off my meter disconnect, same distance involved. 
    For 770', #12 AWG should suffice, and be less than 3% voltage drop.  
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  • SkiddymarkerSkiddymarker Posts: 8,347
    Agree with Matt - here is the calculator if you want to play around..
    http://www.csgnetwork.com/voltagedropcalc.html
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  • milesvdustinmilesvdustin Posts: 1,299
    Would I just wire it into a standard 15A breaker in my panel? And would i need a ground at the tower for this run or not because its not a subpanel

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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 26,699
    I believe GFCI circuits must be 20 A min.  Tower should be grounded well for lightening.
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 26,699
    I would check with an electrician, this isn't a routine home circuit.
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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    A standard 15A CB will be sufficient.  

    I'd recommend a ground rod at your tower, but it should be bonded to your service ground rod too (NEC recommends #6 AWG). 
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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    I am with NOLA, I would recommend talking to an electrician as well.  

    I don't think GF would be needed with this type circuit though.  
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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    I'm by far not an licenced electrician or know the NEC code for towers, etc.  
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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 8,798
    Backfeed from lightning seems probable on both powerline and network line.  I wonder how they protect circuits from these?
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • saluki2007saluki2007 Posts: 3,794
    Ha you said erectic. 
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  • johnkitchensjohnkitchens Posts: 5,079
    I am sorry you are having to do this just to get internet. 


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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 8,798
    Have you considered just getting a fax machine?
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 26,699
    I would intuitively want an isolated ground if that keeps lightening from back feeding into my load panel.
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  • milesvdustinmilesvdustin Posts: 1,299
    I will have a ground for the tower separately. Satellite internet sucks and I live out in the boonies. I am hoping to put this wire in tomorrow, dug the trench today

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  • johnkitchensjohnkitchens Posts: 5,079
    What kind of internet are you getting?

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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    Backfeed from lightning seems probable on both powerline and network line.  I wonder how they protect circuits from these?
    I would most certainly use surge arrestors with this set up. 
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  • EoinEoin Posts: 1,527
    We have our internet connection via a directional antenna and tranceiver on the church in the village - approx 1 mile away. It works well. Our land line connection was so poor that our broadband speed was actually dial up speed, when it worked at all. The main network provider in the UK, BT, has taken billions of pounds from the Govt to provide rural broadband and has failed to deliver. At least there are innovative small companies able to plug the gap with alternative solutions.
  • stlcharcoalstlcharcoal Posts: 3,071
    edited August 2017
    Same thing here......but we just have a 7ft tripod on our roof that points to a water tower a few miles away.  I used the drone to survey which trees to top in between (otherwise it would have been a 20ft tower).
  • EoinEoin Posts: 1,527
    Same thing here......but we just have a 7ft tripod on our roof that points to a water tower a few miles away.  I used the drone to survey which trees to top in between (otherwise it would have been a 20ft tower).
    I had to trim some trees as well.
  • milesvdustinmilesvdustin Posts: 1,299
    Its directional internet like others mentioned 

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  • Jupiter JimJupiter Jim Posts: 3,035

    I agree with the #12 wire GFCI is required for all outside receptacles but I would not use one for this as it will trip when it gets wet from rain and be a pain in the $ss....... You need to run 3 #12 conductors from panel in the home, a hot wire, neutral and a ground, I recommend #12 UF cable, romex approved for direct buried in earth, you should be able to get a 1000' reel from an Electrical supply house, I'm not sure if the big box stores have 100' reels if they do they might cut the length you need.

    I would drive a 10' ground rod at tower if its metal connected with #6 solid wire to tower, if a wood pole I would run a #6 solid copper wire to top of pole connected to ground rod and leave 6"-10" of the #6 solid wire extended above the pole, it antenna has any metal parts connect all to #6 ground wire.

    What is the type of cable used for the low voltage?

    Private message me if you have any more questions and I will give you my phone number and email.

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  • tarheelmatttarheelmatt Posts: 9,320
    I was about to tag you on this @Jupiter Jim .  
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  • TN_EggerTN_Egger Posts: 500
    220...221.  Whatever it takes.

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  • milesvdustinmilesvdustin Posts: 1,299
    Just following up on this, ended up running the 12/3 direct burial. Internet works like a champ. 

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