cooler wars - round 2

Legume

Yeti suing two more clones.

http://www.statesman.com/business/yeti-sues-more-competitors-claims-products-confusingly-similar/xJPwva7GKTDrwFkqjC3GSM/?ecmp=newspaper_email/#user/access/9e6c.bd7ee236.1490652608.d3b41358-16e7-45d5-a3b4-4e88c0a33638

HeavyG

Are YETI's balls big enough to go after Walmart/Sam's Club?

stompbox

I am tired of Yeti and will leave it at that.

odie91

Lol out of curiosity I tried to Google "axis cups", and they already shut down there website.  

Photo Egg

Seems like the new style Yeti soft coolers are a copy of RTIC soft coolers.lol

PirateBill

I wonder when/if Yeti goes after Orca?

camofreak

I have an RTIC 20 and and RTIC 45. I have to say that they don't have the fit and finish that the Yeti has but performance wise they are every bit as good. My RTIC 45 keeps ice longer than my son's Yeti 50.

EpicCajun

I now have a completely new rotation of RTIC hard and soft coolers thanks to this. 

fishlessman

maybe those snookered by yeti can get some money back for their undersized coolers
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/341839-yeti-coolers-class-action-alleges-deceptive-volume-capacity/

Legume

That's funny.  F-the class action lawyers though. They should offer to make up the shortfall in volume with free cups.

odie91

Honestly, I think this is a totally legitimate lawsuit re: the cooler capacity.  That is very deceptive

fishlessman

odie91 said:

Honestly, I think this is a totally legitimate lawsuit re: the cooler capacity.  That is very deceptive

if yeti made them to size...would they be copying rtic

Smokin_Trout

Does make you wonder if the RTIC is the correct size.

Photo Egg

Smokin_Trout said:

Does make you wonder if the RTIC is the correct size.

Most are actually slightly larger than the advertised quart size.

nolaegghead

I have so many coolers of every size I don't think I'll ever buy another.

fishlessman

Smokin_Trout said:

Does make you wonder if the RTIC is the correct size.

rtic is very close to size, yeti is intentionally small


RTIC 45
Interior Dimensions: 19.375 x 10.5 x 11.875 = 2415.82 cu in
Volume: 41.8 quarts
Difference: -3.17 qts (3.17% LESS)

RTIC 65
Interior Dimensions: 24.75 x 11.75 x 13 = 3780.563 cu in
Volume: 65.46 quarts
Difference: +.46 qts (0.71% MORE)

Yeti 50
Interior Dimensions: 16.625 x 10.625 x 12.125 = 2141.768 cu in
Volume: 37 quarts
Difference: -13 qts (26% LESS)

Yeti 65
Interior Dimensions: 23.375 x 10.75 x 10.125 = 2544.223 cu in
Volume: 44 quarts
Difference: -21 qts (32.3% LESS)

Yeti 75
Interior Dimensions: 26 x 11.125 x 12 = 3471 cu in
Volume: 60 quarts
Difference: -15 qts (20% LESS)

Yeti 105
Interior Dimensions: 23 x 12.5 x 14.25 = 4096.875 cu in
Volume: 71 quarts
Difference: -34 qts (32.38% LESS)

Yeti 160
Interior Dimensions: 37.375 x 12.375 x 15.5 = 7168.992 cu in
Volume: 124 quarts
Difference: -36 qts (22.5% LESS)

Rte1985

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

Photo Egg

fishlessman said:

Smokin_Trout said:

Does make you wonder if the RTIC is the correct size.

rtic is very close to size, yeti is intentionally small


RTIC 45
Interior Dimensions: 19.375 x 10.5 x 11.875 = 2415.82 cu in
Volume: 41.8 quarts
Difference: -3.17 qts (3.17% LESS)

RTIC 65
Interior Dimensions: 24.75 x 11.75 x 13 = 3780.563 cu in
Volume: 65.46 quarts
Difference: +.46 qts (0.71% MORE)

Yeti 50
Interior Dimensions: 16.625 x 10.625 x 12.125 = 2141.768 cu in
Volume: 37 quarts
Difference: -13 qts (26% LESS)

Yeti 65
Interior Dimensions: 23.375 x 10.75 x 10.125 = 2544.223 cu in
Volume: 44 quarts
Difference: -21 qts (32.3% LESS)

Yeti 75
Interior Dimensions: 26 x 11.125 x 12 = 3471 cu in
Volume: 60 quarts
Difference: -15 qts (20% LESS)

Yeti 105
Interior Dimensions: 23 x 12.5 x 14.25 = 4096.875 cu in
Volume: 71 quarts
Difference: -34 qts (32.38% LESS)

Yeti 160
Interior Dimensions: 37.375 x 12.375 x 15.5 = 7168.992 cu in
Volume: 124 quarts
Difference: -36 qts (22.5% LESS)

I think the measurements are of the smallest dimension on the bottom as they taper a little. Direct conversion from listed specs will be a little off.
But the Yeti coolers are very short.

nolaegghead

I seriously hope you cut and pasted that from the internet, fishlessperson, otherwise I'll have to be concerned about the balance between your mental health and free time. 

xfire_ATX

Rte1985 said:

Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip

Camping this weekend- Yeti 65 for food, Yeti 75 full of Beer.  Priorities

Rte1985

  You tha man!

Lit

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

Rte1985

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

Give them to me.  I was just stating there is not much difference in ice retention.  Bears are never interested in my coolers so I don't have to worry about that. Now the locking latches are nice but other competitive coolers have that.  I'm just saying I could sell my house to buy a Ferrari to drive back and forth to work but my 99 burb does just fine! I'm not anti Yeti. I think they are great coolers but the majority of people who use coolers don't need a Yeti for general use. But to each their own.

nolaegghead

Rte1985 said:

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

Give them to me.  I was just stating there is not much difference in ice retention.  Bears are never interested in my coolers so I don't have to worry about that. Now the locking latches are nice but other competitive coolers have that.  I'm just saying I could sell my house to buy a Ferrari to drive back and forth to work but my 99 burb does just fine! I'm not anti Yeti. I think they are great coolers but the majority of people who use coolers don't need a Yeti for general use. But to each their own.

Now now.... "extreme coolering" where seconds count before your food goes bad, beer turns yucky, these are where it really matters that you have a super expensive chinese made well-branded cooler. 

Hell if I'm gonna add ice after three days when I could fork out a few hunnert bucks more and add ice at 4 days.  Screw that.

Lit

Rte1985 said:

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

Give them to me.  I was just stating there is not much difference in ice retention.  Bears are never interested in my coolers so I don't have to worry about that. Now the locking latches are nice but other competitive coolers have that.  I'm just saying I could sell my house to buy a Ferrari to drive back and forth to work but my 99 burb does just fine! I'm not anti Yeti. I think they are great coolers but the majority of people who use coolers don't need a Yeti for general use. But to each their own.

But there is a huge difference in ice retention. The Yetis ice will easily last double what the extremes do.

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

I seriously hope you cut and pasted that from the internet, fishlessperson, otherwise I'll have to be concerned about the balance between your mental health and free time. 

thats a cut and paste, if you want to play fact checker, have at it

fishlessman

as far as ice retention goes, my rtic still has ice since november in it and its been outside in the sun the whole time

HeavyG

nolaegghead said:

I seriously hope you cut and pasted that from the internet, fishlessperson, otherwise I'll have to be concerned about the balance between your mental health and free time. 

I bet he went the extra step and actually bought samples of each, measured them himself, and then created the spreadsheet to do the math.

I can tell that he was serious about all that by the complete lack of emoticons in his post.

HeavyG

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

When it comes to the one characteristic most people  buy coolers for - holding ice for a few days - yes they are (as actual testing has shown).

On the other hand, the YETI's are bear proof (and that may be of actual importance to 0.1% of YETI owners) whereas the Xtremes are not.

Eoin

HeavyG said:

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

When it comes to the one characteristic most people  buy coolers for - holding ice for a few days - yes they are (as actual testing has shown).

On the other hand, the YETI's are bear proof (and that may be of actual importance to 0.1% of YETI owners) whereas the Xtremes are not.

I'm after a cooler for camping, are the Coleman as good temperature wise? I just want functional (ie stays cold), ideally with latches, at a cheapskate price. Doesn't need to be bear proof.

Lit

Eoin said:

HeavyG said:

Lit said:

Rte1985 said:

Yeti is a nice idea but when you have a Coleman xtreme that keep ice just as long for a fraction of the price.  Let's just say that's a lot of beer and meat money you could have for that next camping trip I'm a big rtic fan also.  Yeti is just so salty!

I have 2 Coleman extremes in my attic cause I hate to throw things away. They aren't even in the same category as Yeti. 

When it comes to the one characteristic most people  buy coolers for - holding ice for a few days - yes they are (as actual testing has shown).

On the other hand, the YETI's are bear proof (and that may be of actual importance to 0.1% of YETI owners) whereas the Xtremes are not.

I'm after a cooler for camping, are the Coleman as good temperature wise? I just want functional (ie stays cold), ideally with latches, at a cheapskate price. Doesn't need to be bear proof.

The extremes do not have latched atleast the ones I have seen and own. If you are camping starting like a Friday night and leaving Sunday afternoon the extreme will work fine but it will be 3/4 melted by then.