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Does burned food give you cancer?

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danv23
danv23 Posts: 953
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I am not here to preach, and yes, I've read other articles posted here on the topic.  Just putting out the info, and no, I haven't changed my eating habits based on this or any other article I've read on the topic. I like my charred food charred and my non charred food not charred. 

I just think the more info you have the better off you are. Enjoy.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-08-food-cancer.html


The Dude: This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

Cumming, GA

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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
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    Health aspects aside, burned food doesn't taste good (to me at least).  A well developed Maillard reaction giving that deep brown look is great. Going past that to actually burnt is not what I want.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
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  • danv23
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    jtcBoynton said:
    Health aspects aside, burned food doesn't taste good (to me at least).  A well developed Maillard reaction giving that deep brown look is great. Going past that to actually burnt is not what I want.
    I totally agree with you.  i never look to burn food as I'd rather eat my shoe.  A nice crust without tasting or looking burnt is the goal.

    The Dude: This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Weber Summit 6 Burner

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  • abpgwolf
    abpgwolf Posts: 559
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    Interesting article on the subject: 
    http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/grilling_and_cancer.html 

    The last line says "If you are worried about health risks, keep grilling and quit driving"

    Lititz, PA – XL BGE

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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
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    danv23 said:
    jtcBoynton said:
    Health aspects aside, burned food doesn't taste good (to me at least).  A well developed Maillard reaction giving that deep brown look is great. Going past that to actually burnt is not what I want.
    I totally agree with you.  i never look to burn food as I'd rather eat my shoe.  A nice crust without tasting or looking burnt is the goal.
    Depends on where that shoe has been.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,740
    edited August 2016
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    its as bad for you as the air you breath =)
    for causing cancer
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • ColtsFan
    ColtsFan Posts: 6,336
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    Who eats burnt food? We're professional Eggers ;) 
    ~ John - https://www.instagram.com/hoosier_egger
    XL BGE, LG BGE, KJ Jr, PK Original, Ardore Pizza Oven, King Disc 
    Bloomington, IN - Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoosiers!

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  • clemsontyger97
    clemsontyger97 Posts: 390
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    SGH said:
    To be honest, I have no idea of what does or does not cause that horrible disease. I just hope and pray that someone comes up with a cure for it and soon. It has destroyed and taken far to many lives already. 
    One thing is certain:   Whatever doesn't cause it today probably will at some point...and vice versa.
    --Because I'm like ice, buddy. When I don't like you, you've got problems.

    KJ Classic
    28" Blackstone
    South Carolina native, adopted Texan, residing in Olive Branch, MS.  Go Tigers.
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,344
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    I think Joe Jacksons song "Cancer" from the early 80's sums it up:

    "Cancer"

    Everything
    Everything gives you cancer
    Everything
    Everything gives you cancer
    There's no cure, there's no answer
    Everything gives you cancer
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • Miked125
    Miked125 Posts: 481
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    what he said ^^^^^
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  • danv23
    danv23 Posts: 953
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    bhedges1987 said:
    Ya a little burnt chicken is bad for you.... However the cereal and yogurt the health professionals recommend with a shi* load of sugar is better for you ;)

    I'll take my chances eating real food over an open flame any day than some garbage made in a factory or anything I have to put in the microwave.
    Amen

    The Dude: This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber.

    Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! *uck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 

    Cumming, GA

    Eggs - XL, L, Small

    Gasser - Weber Summit 6 Burner

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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
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    I'm convinced waking up in the morning can give you cancer. As a survivor I say...live life, be happy, enjoy family & friends.  f***off cancer!
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • berndcrisp
    berndcrisp Posts: 1,166
    edited August 2016
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    Even milk causes cancer. Everyone who has had cancer drank milk!

    Living life can give you cancer. Oh well.

    Hood Stars, Wrist Crowns and Obsession Dobs!


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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,332
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    Okay-at the risk of really going where I probably shouldn't and am not professionally qualified, I honestly believe that a cure for cancer is dang near impossible to achieve.  Here are two paragraphs that are fairly straight-forward to see why:

    A.  The most common form of cell division is called mitosis. It is used for growth and repair. During mitosis, a cell makes an exact copy of itself and splits into two new cells. Each cell contains an exact copy of the original cell's chromosomes in their 23 pairs. This is the reason why all the cells in an organism are genetically identical.
    B. Mitosis is closely controlled by the genes inside every cell. Sometimes this control can go wrong. If that happens in just a single cell, it can replicate itself to make new cells that are also out of control. These are cancer cells. They continue to replicate rapidly without the control systems that normal cells have.

    I am all for fighting the disease and getting to where we can quickly mitigate any impact from detecting cancer, but I don't see a true cure in the future.  And yes I have personal experience with cancer in my immediate family and prior with my parents.  

    Edit:  love me burnt toast!
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Friend of mine told me he has cancer today.  Prostate.   I said congratulations.   We laughed.
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
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    No.  Being alive is the only thing that can possibly give anyone cancer.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • yljkt
    yljkt Posts: 799
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    SGH said:
    To be honest, I have no idea of what does or does not cause that horrible disease. I just hope and pray that someone comes up with a cure for it and soon. It has destroyed and taken far to many lives already. 
    Slow clap.....leading to high clap....thanks Scottie. 
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,467
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    Bah.
    I've been eating burned/blackened food my entire life and I'm in perfect heaaaaa
     
    :::CONNECTION LOST:::


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    Remember when teachers used to say 'You won't have a calculator everywhere you go'?  Well, we showed them.


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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
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    nolaegghead said:
    Friend of mine told me he has cancer today.  Prostate.   I said congratulations.   We laughed.
    You're one sick bastard ;)
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
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    bhedges1987 said:
    Ya a little burnt chicken is bad for you.... However the cereal and yogurt the health professionals recommend with a shi* load of sugar is better for you ;)

    I'll take my chances eating real food over an open flame any day than some garbage made in a factory or anything I have to put in the microwave.
    You have some crappy health professionals where you live. I recommend you move.
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    edited August 2016
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    I agree with everyone else. Everything causes cancer. I wouldn't worry about it. 

    Kansas City, Missouri
    Large Egg
    Mini Egg

    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" - Gandalf


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  • rmr62
    rmr62 Posts: 233
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    Given that I haven't fully researched this topic of late, I will just say that there are likely to be multiple factors at play here.  In Japan, they have historically had very high rates of stomach cancer relative to the rest of the world.  Many years ago when reading on this, they were linking it to smoked fish---they evidently had some process for smoking and as a population ate WAY more than most do.  Now, I haven't gone back and looked at data since then, but it would seem that there may be other compounds that could have similar effects, but likely would also require ingesting large quantities, etc.  Kind of like inoculum size with certain microbial infections--as far as the possibility ratios of actually contracting something.  I suggest further analysis.
    Lagrange, GA   LBGE
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
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    Eggcelsior said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    Ya a little burnt chicken is bad for you.... However the cereal and yogurt the health professionals recommend with a shi* load of sugar is better for you ;)

    I'll take my chances eating real food over an open flame any day than some garbage made in a factory or anything I have to put in the microwave.
    You have some crappy health professionals where you live. I recommend you move.
    Off of the USA gov website.......... You ever take a look at one of these mr. Angry pants? Carbs = sugar. 

    Kansas City, Missouri
    Large Egg
    Mini Egg

    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" - Gandalf


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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    httpsthumbsdreamstimecomzhealthy-diet-then-now-infographics-classic-food-pyramid-chart-modern-nutrition-advice-60596254jpg
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  • nolaegghead
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    history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_(nutrition)

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  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262
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    I"m happier since I started egging.  I think that must factor in somehow.

     It will get me eventually (runs strong in my family).   Live a good life for the days we've been given - least that's the way I figure it.
    Phoenix 
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  • Acn
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    bhedges1987 said:
    Eggcelsior said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    Ya a little burnt chicken is bad for you.... However the cereal and yogurt the health professionals recommend with a shi* load of sugar is better for you ;)

    I'll take my chances eating real food over an open flame any day than some garbage made in a factory or anything I have to put in the microwave.
    You have some crappy health professionals where you live. I recommend you move.
    Off of the USA gov website.......... You ever take a look at one of these mr. Angry pants? Carbs = sugar. 
    That's not the current USDA recommendations, now they're using MyPlate now, which suggest that half the plate should be fruits and veggies:


    Secondly - if your chosen health professional is blindly referring you to the USDA recommendations (whichever iteration it might be), rather than working with you to see what kind of diet works for you - then yeah, @eggcelsior is probably right, you need to find a better health professional.  There is really no such thing as an optimal diet that applies everyone, since it generally depends on your genetic makeup, your activity level, your personal gut microbiome, among a host of other things.

    LBGE

    Pikesville, MD

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  • Acn
    Acn Posts: 4,424
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    And for the lighter side...

    LBGE

    Pikesville, MD

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  • NPHuskerFL
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    Eating charred lab rats with cancer may cause hallucinations. 
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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