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Powder Coating

bhugg
bhugg Posts: 317
Has anyone done or thought about sand blasting and powder coating the daisy wheel? It would obviously have to be a high heat paint but what are some pros and cons? 
Large BGE Dallas, TX

Comments

  • You're perhaps over thinking it if you're trying to prevent rust.  It's cast iron so keep it seasoned and all will be well.  If your goal is changing it's color as a fashion statement, well I will be curious how it turns out.
    Flint, Michigan
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Home powder coating is baked on at 400°. No idea what happens if you later exceed that. Wipe some oil on it and store it inside the egg between uses and you'll be fine. 

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Wolfpack
    Wolfpack Posts: 3,552
    Or step up to a smoke wear cap and never look back
    Greensboro, NC
  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
    @Mickey sand-blasted his, if I recall.
  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,694
    @Mickey sand-blasted his, if I recall.

    Sand blasting works
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). 

  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,694
    More sand blasting

    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). 

  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,075
    High heat powder coating is usually at a metal temp of upwards of 700F for 30 mins or more.
    For a daisy wheel not a great application due to moving and the abrasion of parts. Once the surface is comprimised, adhesion fails. It is better to get sandblasted and seasoned. Much less of time and money. Heck, just buy a second one for the costs you will incur on this project.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • Tony_T
    Tony_T Posts: 303
    If grease build-up, just clean-burn by placing directly on the coal.
  • BilZol
    BilZol Posts: 698
    When I was using my daisy wheels I would just spray them with cooking spray and put them in the egg while it was cooling down to keep it seasoned. Never had an issue. I did switch to Smokeware caps not long after so now I have three regular daisy wheels and a MM one just sitting around now....
    Bill   Denver, CO
    XL, 2L's, and MM
  • bigbadben
    bigbadben Posts: 397
    KamadoJoe powder coats their top vents. 
  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    My powder coated and well used dfmt:


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    I love lamp..
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    The above sits uncovered in the rain all year.  
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    I love lamp..
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    The above sits uncovered in the rain all year.  
    Ditto for mine. No rust, no signs of abraded away coating.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262

    I went back to the daisy wheel for a few cooks while the smokeware was being cleaned in the electrolysis tank. I really dislike the daisy wheel after using the smokeware cap.  


    Phoenix 
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    blasting said:

    I went back to the daisy wheel for a few cooks while the smokeware was being cleaned in the electrolysis tank. I really dislike the daisy wheel after using the smokeware cap.  


    I like the smokeware too. I miss the nostalgia of the dfmt, and it makes me happy to use my kamado, or cook on someone else's egg.  Since I'm under a cover, I could go either way, advantages and disadvantages to both.
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    I love lamp..
  • tgs2401
    tgs2401 Posts: 424
    Wire brush and brillo it to get the rust off then coat with cooking oil and heat at 400 degrees for a couple of hours to re-season it.
    One large BGE in Louisville, KY.
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,075
    HeavyG said:
    The above sits uncovered in the rain all year.  
    Ditto for mine. No rust, no signs of abraded away coating.

    You can build a powder coat to do whatever you want. High Temp PC is a bit tricky, and of course, a bit more expensive to use and prep for.
    KUDOS, to KJ for their product. To those that own both the BGE and KJ, I am curious if the metal is exactly the same, I just don't know.
    We actually had specs to build a powder coat with adhesion spec that could withstand a shotgun blast at a certain distance. It was for electrical junction boxes, years ago.
    Most Webbers are PC as well, but do not have the function of a DW, and as you can see, or at least with mine, it will scratch or abrade.
    Typically, in most facilities that do small single pieces of powder coating, they will use "stock" inventory. If they have the high heat specification and processes for durability for the pc as KJ, you are in luck.
    Usually, those pc and processes are proprietary, and not sold anywhere else. If the shop does have access to it, even better.
    Otherwise small orders usually are in 35 to 50 pound boxes at a relatively high cost and that cost, if they do not have it in their inventory, is passed on to the consumer.
    There is a major difference to aftermarket PC and OEM. This is to which I commented on with regards to getting one powder coated.
    OEMs purchase for thousands of items for a certain product and a certain spec process.
    Refinisers in PC generally purchase one HH coating to do 100's of different projects using the same spec for all jobs, which will not have the same processes as OEM.
    The major factor in long term durability is the substrate preparation. Fe, Zi or Cr phosphate pretreatment helps in the longevity of a PC. Most use either iron (low cost, good passivation) or Zinc ( higher cost, better). Not many use Cr, as the environmental safety conditions run at such a high cost, however it is the best of the three listed options for passivation and long term durability of the piece being powder coated.
    By the time you have read this, you may have been able to get a new DW, likely at close to near the same cost as having yours bead blasted, chemically treated, and coated.
    Who knows, there might be a shop somewhere, that is specifically set up for this, and could do it at a reasonable price.
    The time to research that, I do not have, that is why I default to replacing.
    I admit, I am lazy. I wil just get a replacement when it gets too ugly to use.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,075
    HeavyG said:
    The above sits uncovered in the rain all year.  
    Ditto for mine. No rust, no signs of abraded away coating.
    Big difference in spec processes and coatings between OEMs and aftermarket refinishing. Check out the previous comment I posted, should you want. It is long and boring, but provides a (believe it or not) brief explanation of the differences, both practical  and economical.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • BilZol
    BilZol Posts: 698
    blasting said:

    I went back to the daisy wheel for a few cooks while the smokeware was being cleaned in the electrolysis tank. I really dislike the daisy wheel after using the smokeware cap.  


    Tell me more of this cleaning? Mine don't look bad, but the oven cleaner spray only does do much. 
    Bill   Denver, CO
    XL, 2L's, and MM