OT - Paying Respects for the Fallen Dallas Police Officers.

Fred19Flintstone

This whole situation is so sad.  Here are their brother officers saluting.  God bless those that paid the ultimate price!

Dobie

Amen, we need to find balance and lose the hate all the way around. 

jabam

Prayers for all the people affected by these senseless acts, carried out in the name of religion, race or ideology. In the end they are mentally unstable people. Too bad we can't figure out a way to combat this poison that tears apart our society. I don't have the answers, wish someone did. 

Bustersdad

Very sad

Hans61

All lives matter

blasting

Hans61 said:

All lives matter

Did you see the clip of the dozen young men who stood in the officers face, grabbed their crotches, taunting the officers over the death of their comrades?  I am blown away at the restraint those grieving officers showed.  

The lives of those low life scum don't matter (to me), but all other lives, and all colors matter.

RIP to the 5 that were murdered.

Hans61

blasting said:

Hans61 said:

All lives matter

Did you see the clip of the dozen young men who stood in the officers face, grabbed their crotches, taunting the officers over the death of their comrades?  I am blown away at the restraint those grieving officers showed.  

The lives of those low life scum don't matter (to me), but all other lives, and all colors matter.

RIP to the 5 that were murdered.

My comment was in reference to the "black lives matter" movement, I think all lives matter. 

Hans61

@blasting I didn't see the clip but that disgusts me.

Jeremiah

Aside from children, there's nothing worse than murdering those that volunteer to protect us. Very very sad. 

JohnInCarolina

I don't think the intent of the BLM movement was to suggest that only black lives matter.  Otherwise it would be OBLM.

Sardonicus

blasting said:

Hans61 said:

All lives matter

Did you see the clip of the dozen young men who stood in the officers face, grabbed their crotches, taunting the officers . . .

It is interesting which images stick with people. 
Very interesting.

I remember the clip of the mother - a bystander - who proclaimed that she and her two children would be at the funerals of the fallen Officers
because they were there for her and her kids 
and therefore she would be there for them.

Dobie

More protests tonight around the country, hopefully violence doesn't erupt again. 

Hans61

Sardonicus said:

blasting said:

Hans61 said:

All lives matter

Did you see the clip of the dozen young men who stood in the officers face, grabbed their crotches, taunting the officers . . .

It is interesting which images stick with people. 

I remember the clip of the mother - a bystander - who proclaimed that she and her two children would be at the funerals of the fallen Officers
because they were there for her and her kids and therefore she would be there for them.

Agreed. The whole thing is terrible, against all gun violence here.

jabam

All lives matter! The problem is those with an agenda don't see that. And you get punks who use race and religion to justify their actions. I include ISIS, the Taliban, skinheads, anyone who kills in the name of BLM, anti abortionists who blow up abortion clinics and the list goes on!! It's getting to the point where we as citizens need to be vigilant and speak up if we suspect someone or some group capable of these atrocities. Don't turn a blind eye, because it doesn't concern you. Get involved!

nolaegghead

jabam said:

All lives matter! The problem is those with an agenda don't see that. And you get punks who use race and religion to justify their actions.

Good thing we don't have a presidential candidate that thinks like that!

jabam

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

nolaegghead

I'll agree with that.

HeavyG

jabam said:

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

I always thought that was pretty much the norm.

jabam

I can't think of a past presidential election, where there were two candidates, that were totally incompetent as these two. 

jabam

Gary Johnson is looking better and better in my book. But I'm guessing he doesn't have a clue either. 

DoubleEgger

jabam said:

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

Too bad Gary Johnson didn't get more airtime. 

clintmiller

There's a word for someone who puts his life on the line to protect others... Hero

Mud Pig

The events in Dallas are unbelievable to say the least and my heart goes out to the fallen officers families. Not being African American or a police officer I find the larger issue to be to sordid to make sense out of. I do have an incident in my youth where an officer slammed me on the hood of a car when I was riding my bike home at night from a friends house. Apparently there was someone breaking into cars in my very safe upper middle class neighborhood. I was on the way home, got ordered by the officer to the side of the road, I thought I was just to far in the car lane and he wanted to get by. Next thing I know my skinny 14 year old butt was yanked off my bike and slammed on the hood of the squad car. After the officer realized that I was just on my way home from a friends house, he told me to get lost and acted like it was my fault that he slammed me. I went home and told my parents, nothing much came about after that. I haven't thought about it for years, but it is the one experience I can imagine is close to what some kids go through with officers in rough neighborhoods. That officer was out of line plain and simple. I could let that incident color my opinion of the police, but thankfully it hasn't. 

I for one am grateful that men and women put their lives on the line to protect society from the criminal element by putting on the blue uniform. It's a shame that some people can't recognize that. At the same time it's a shame that some officers lose site of their primary duty, to protect and serve. At the end of the day we are all human, we all make mistakes, and tomorrow the sun shall rise again. God bless those who protect and serve, their families, and the people who live in neighborhoods that feel as though they are hunted. Hopefully this will all work out. 

Skiddymarker

Thoughts and prayers go to those in Dallas. Interesting that on a radio talk show here a day or so ago while discussing the last couple of shootings the commentator expressed the fear that someone would start to target police officers. 

DonWW

I live in Dallas and I can tell you that the entire city remains in shock.  A wonderful, multi-faith service was held outside yesterday with a tremendous turnout of citizens.  Lots of talk about love, healing, moving forward, etc.  The primary issue remains: how do you operationalize this?  What is the effective mechanism whereby the barrier of mistrust and prejudice is dissolved?  And replaced with a sentiment of systemic respect and trust.  Especially when it is a situation involving peace officers and people of color. 

GATraveller

It's a shame that it takes a 9/11 type event to make everyone realize we are all Americans (despite the divisive nature of our government and media) . 

Botch

DoubleEgger said:

jabam said:

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

Too bad Gary Johnson didn't get more airtime. 

Sorta OT, but will Mr. Johnson be included in the remaining debates?  He really, really needs to be.  

DoubleEgger

Botch said:

DoubleEgger said:

jabam said:

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

Too bad Gary Johnson didn't get more airtime. 

Sorta OT, but will Mr. Johnson be included in the remaining debates?  He really, really needs to be.  

He should be but I doubt it. The media perpetuates the two party system. 

Acn

DoubleEgger said:

Botch said:

DoubleEgger said:

jabam said:

Too bad we don't have a presidential candidate, worthy of being president. 

Too bad Gary Johnson didn't get more airtime. 

Sorta OT, but will Mr. Johnson be included in the remaining debates?  He really, really needs to be.  

He should be but I doubt it. The media perpetuates the two party system. 

The media has nothing to do with it.  The Comission for Presidential Debates sets the format, schedule and requirements for participation.  Johnson will be included if he meets those criteria and excluded if he doesn't.  His biggest hurdle is likely to be polling over 15%.

stlcharcoal

None of out of town news stations are reporting in any length that we had a police officer shot in the neck yesterday here in STL on a traffic stop.  Suspect has a long record and ambushed the police officer after he was pulled over.  Officer is still in critical condition.

This happened only about 20 minutes from me, and in a very nice part of town.  I drove right by this spot just the day before before meeting with a new dealer we have just 200 yards down the road.  We also have a long time customer that is a officer with that department (10 yrs back when I was selling charcoal out of the back of my SUV.)  I texted him right away, and thankfully he wrote back so I didn't have to worry about him.

I say all this not to take anything away from the Dallas shootings.  As a witness to all the Ferguson stuff two years ago, and now this in the nice suburbs, just gotta say, be aware of your surroundings.  Don't believe for a second that a white picket fence in suburbia is going to protect you from what is coming.  Every LEO I am still acquainted says look out, this is the new norm & coming to a neighborhood near you.

Pepe Le Pew

All will be OK soon.  Obama has proposed nationalizing all police forces under federal control.