Meats Put in Same Cancer-Causing Danger Category as Cigarettes or Asbestos by World Health Organizat

nolaegghead

Knowledge can be liberating.  There's a lot of base suspicion against knowledge and science that comes out as a knee jerk reaction.  People are too lazy to see anything but the headline. Or look any farther than that for the truth, which is not hidden, except maybe by the news organization with a political bent.  Thanks for that @HeavyG

GATraveller

Well.....with the World Climate Conference coming up in December it does not surprise me one bit that there is this new evaluation of studies by the WHO linking processed meat consumption with cancer.  Seems to fit quite nicely.

On a positive note which could prolong our miserable cancer ridden agony......scientists have been able to GM tomatoes to "efficiently produce industrial volumes of natural disease-fighting compounds".
http://www.thelatestnews.com/will-gm-tomatoes-be-used-to-fight-diseases-in-the-future/

rifrench

I quit both tobacco and alcohol, age and meds ruined something else that I enjoyed. I am going to continue eating the things I enjoy, I have sacrificed enough already!

Tspud1

Exhaust fumes causes cancer yet we all still drive.

JohnInCarolina

At least alcohol is still OK for you, right?  Right guys?!?!?

lousubcap

@JohnInCarolina- alcohol is good for you...definitely but somebody mentioned the phrase "in moderation."  Whatever that means. 

SmokeyPitt

lousubcap said:

@JohnInCarolina- alcohol is good for you...definitely but somebody mentioned the phrase "in moderation."  Whatever that means. 

I could cut back to two glasses a day with that glass. 

fishlessman

lousubcap said:

@JohnInCarolina- alcohol is good for you...definitely but somebody mentioned the phrase "in moderation."  Whatever that means. 

An imaginary place that exist where ever you drink as in, always drink in moderation

nolaegghead

JohnInCarolina said:

At least alcohol is still OK for you, right?  Right guys?!?!?

...wait, wasn't that Amy's tribute to R. Kelly?

gdenby

The study just adds weight to what has been pretty well recognized for decades, at least. The nitrosamines found in cured meat are carcinogenic. But they are fairly weak carcinogens. And the increased chance of getting cancer from eating cured meats is fairly small. If I'm understanding the numbers mentioned, one would need to eat 16 slices of bacon a day to double the chances of getting a colo-rectal cancer. Or more than a whole 8 oz .hard salami or pepperoni.

So geez, don't stuff yourself with "cured" meats.

And take a walk every now and then, but wear a hat. And eat an apple, while your at it.

nolaegghead

I actually bought ascorbic acid to add to my sodium nitrite cure to cut down on nitrosamines.  

fishlessman

gdenby said:

The study just adds weight to what has been pretty well recognized for decades, at least. The nitrosamines found in cured meat are carcinogenic. But they are fairly weak carcinogens. And the increased chance of getting cancer from eating cured meats is fairly small. If I'm understanding the numbers mentioned, one would need to eat 16 slices of bacon a day to double the chances of getting a colo-rectal cancer. Or more than a whole 8 oz .hard salami or pepperoni.

So geez, don't stuff yourself with "cured" meats.

And take a walk every now and then, but wear a hat. And eat an apple, while your at it.

just dont eat to many apples contaminated with cancer-causing pesticides

nolaegghead

apples have naturally occurring cancer-causing arsenic

Zippylip

been at a lifetime low rate of meat consumption (about 1x/week) for the last couple years; unrelated to health or ethics just lack of desire.  It's hard however to ignore how much better I've felt & it being the only changed factor of any significance I believe the two are related.  Will I live a minute longer because of it?  Don't know, don't care as I've always eaten whatever I wanted, still do, & that's pretty damn important for a life well lived. 

gdenby

fishlessman said:

gdenby said:

The study just adds weight to what has been pretty well recognized for decades, at least. The nitrosamines found in cured meat are carcinogenic. But they are fairly weak carcinogens. And the increased chance of getting cancer from eating cured meats is fairly small. If I'm understanding the numbers mentioned, one would need to eat 16 slices of bacon a day to double the chances of getting a colo-rectal cancer. Or more than a whole 8 oz .hard salami or pepperoni.

So geez, don't stuff yourself with "cured" meats.

And take a walk every now and then, but wear a hat. And eat an apple, while your at it.

just dont eat to many apples contaminated with cancer-causing pesticides

And, on that topic. My mom and dad ate huuuge amounts of apples. Had an apple 'fridge. Late in life, dad always peeled his apples. I read about the crap most of the apples have sprayed on them. "Pretty smart, Dad" I thought. But recently, read that apple skins have a substance that promotes muscle building in elders whose muscles are suffering atrophy. So, need to find a way to reliably remove the pesticide/herbicide residues from apples.

gdenby

nolaegghead said:

apples have naturally occurring cancer-causing arsenic

As does most ground water.

Which is why I'd really prefer to get my water and apples from Calvados, if I could afford it.

nolaegghead

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/06/19/155354070/why-you-shouldnt-panic-about-pesticide-in-produce

Ladeback69

gdenby said:

fishlessman said:

gdenby said:

The study just adds weight to what has been pretty well recognized for decades, at least. The nitrosamines found in cured meat are carcinogenic. But they are fairly weak carcinogens. And the increased chance of getting cancer from eating cured meats is fairly small. If I'm understanding the numbers mentioned, one would need to eat 16 slices of bacon a day to double the chances of getting a colo-rectal cancer. Or more than a whole 8 oz .hard salami or pepperoni.

So geez, don't stuff yourself with "cured" meats.

And take a walk every now and then, but wear a hat. And eat an apple, while your at it.

just dont eat to many apples contaminated with cancer-causing pesticides

And, on that topic. My mom and dad ate huuuge amounts of apples. Had an apple 'fridge. Late in life, dad always peeled his apples. I read about the crap most of the apples have sprayed on them. "Pretty smart, Dad" I thought. But recently, read that apple skins have a substance that promotes muscle building in elders whose muscles are suffering atrophy. So, need to find a way to reliably remove the pesticide/herbicide residues from apples.

@gdenby, I found this online.  Don't about using Dawn though.

http://howtothisandthat.com/how-to-clean-apples-naturally-5-ways-without-chemicals/

Darby_Crenshaw

@Zippylip No One cares about your teva-wearing yoga bullsh!t.

henapple

Bacon causes cancer... 
Canadian bacon apologizes... 

Begger

You have to look at the numbers.    REAL data, not categories or opinion ABOUT data. 

If eating 1 hot dog per DAY increases my chances of getting something awful by 1% and smoking vs NONsmoking is 15% greater, than I'll take the 'dog any day of the week.  

GATraveller

I've provided my wife with this "colon cancer prevention" video for educational purposes.

Zippylip

Darby_Crenshaw said:

@Zippylip No One cares about your teva-wearing yoga bullsh!t.

I couldn't agree more as exhibited by the coveted 'most morbidly obese nation on planet earth' honors awarded year over year to the USA... you fat bastard

Darby_Crenshaw

@Zippylip
your aggression toward us morbidly obese types (which is 85% of this forum's demographic) only illustrates how intolerant you vegan feminazi subaru-driving pinkos are.  i bet you have a "coexist" bumpersticker on your car.  and yet you spew your fat-shaming bile here.

you sir are no gentleman. i can't understand why steven left his wife for you. but i wish you both well.

also @GATraveller  tell your wife i said hi

nolaegghead

well that didn't work

theyolksonyou

nolaegghead said:

well that didn't work

You win some, you lose some...

Zippylip

Darby_Crenshaw said:

@Zippylip
your aggression toward us morbidly obese types (which is 85% of this forum's demographic) only illustrates how intolerant you vegan feminazi subaru-driving pinkos are.  i bet you have a "coexist" bumpersticker on your car.  and yet you spew your fat-shaming bile here.

you sir are no gentleman. i can't understand why steven left his wife for you. but i wish you both well.

to the contrary my friend it's my love for all of you that prompts me to desperate measures, shocking you if you will into a more healthful diet a la PETA.  Granted, it's never worked for them but hope springs eternal plus it's fun agitating well, you

Darby_Crenshaw

@Zippylip I accept your apology.  also, in keepijng with your efforts at goading us to weight loss, I will mention that I have actually been frequenting the original "weight loss forum" section of greeneggers.com for the past seven months.  there aren't many of us there, but posting our successes and failures has caused a few of us to really refocus our habits toward healthier alternatives.  i myself, since March, am down almost four or five pounds. and fidel has only gained twenty

Zippylip

Darby_Crenshaw said:

@Zippylip I accept your apology. 

I remember this used to be a much more unfriendly, unkind place.  I'm outa here

JohnInCarolina

Darby_Crenshaw said:

@Zippylip I accept your apology.  also, in keepijng with your efforts at goading us to weight loss, I will mention that I have actually been frequenting the original "weight loss forum" section of greeneggers.com for the past seven months.  there aren't many of us there, but posting our successes and failures has caused a few of us to really refocus our habits toward healthier alternatives.  i myself, since March, am down almost four or five pounds. and fidel has only gained twenty