global warming

stike

looks like all the brainiacs left when it was just getting interesting

fishlessman

sounds good to me, get stoned, then throw rocks :laugh:thats a win win

Davekatz

The Friday Afternoon Club is going to start early today. :laugh:

fishlessman

didnt realize you took your global warming so serious nuclear power solves a bunch of global warming problems, all the reactor manufacturers are gearing up again

stike

it's not "global warming" i take seriously. you maybe are assuming you know where i stand on global warming. you do not. i didn't weigh in.

it's the willingness to mock the other opinions i find troublesome. like the one simpleton here who posts things all the time which are inflammatory. it's suddenly the responsibility of the 'reasonable man' to quietly abide rather than reason with him, because it' obvious that 'reason' isn't anything anyone is interested in.

but what you DID help accomplish is to set the tone for 'debate' here in the future. it's not a new tone. the internet is filled with it. just thought perhaps we were a little less abrasive here

and since that tone seems to be officially acceptable, i just thought we could to try it with other concepts just to see if we can also get 90% return on anything else. you see? that's my point. why risk pissing people off about stuff that is potentially polarizing? what's the point? just to start trouble?

i just don't think it accomplished anything. you got a 90% agreement in a thread about science on a barbecue forum

sorry i am being so obtuse. i thought i was being clear. i always think i'm being clear, never amounts to anything though

Jeffersonian

Possibly true. As for me, I'll start believing it's a crisis when the people who are telling me it's a crisis start acting like it's a crisis.

Fidel

Other than the Goose I have to question her taste in alcohol. Sounds like bargain bin swill to me, for the most part.


(ah, the relaxing art of the red herring)

fishlessman

i think sometimes you read way into things just a little too much. global warming isnt an issue that draws hatred from apposing sides any more, on the web its a subject that is mostly joked about. i didnt even ask for a debate, just who believes its a hoax. even those that do believe in it i dont believe ive pissed off, ive got no nasty grams in the mail box might not be fitting for a food forum, but its very fitting for the time of year, seems everyone i meet that talks about the weather laughs about it, everyone, both sides, its a mean winter across the board. only one poster brought up an argument for global warming, im sure dave isnt upset with me. this whole post isnt polarizing :laugh:

stike

well.

guess i'm saying i enjoyed the level of presumption. :laugh:

Davekatz

No, I'm not upset.

I think winter makes everyone a little cranky.

Jeffersonian

Maybe she's going for a "common man" touch?

Basscat

Well said, Stike, well said. I agree completely.

EGGARY

Al Gore never said he invented the internet. Why is it that there are Scientists that say there is Global Warming/Climate Change ?

EGGARY

With all due respect, what does this have to do with the Big Green Egg ? If you want to talk politics, that's fine. You say Global Warming is a farce. Can you say going to war in Iraq was a Farce ? I am on the side that says it was. Where are those damn WMD's ? The question can be asked is what will happen first: will OJ Simpson find the killer of his wife and Ron Goldman or the WMD's will be found ?

Is Global Warming a concern ? Lets see, there are a few scientists who say it is, but wait a minute, Conservatives don't believe in Science.

The point is, there is no point.

Mr. & Mrs Potatohead

VERY GOOD!!!
Point to be made, that is.

Mr. & Mrs Potatohead

Yes...But...
Einstein is still right on!!! After all these years, because we really have NO idea about waste :ohmy: .
Basically he asks "What the hell do we do with the waste?"
It may remove a carbon footprint, but leaves a major nuclear footprint....And...Take it a step farther...
Lets look at it as a tax subsidized mining and enrichment process that creates major pollution (that we have NO idea how to control or clean up) and then we (again the tax payers) also have to pay for, to safely store this waste for a few thousand years!! We also don't know how to do that!!
Seriously, Einstein was right when he said that "nuclear energy may hold the key to our world's needs, but will never be practical because of the disposal of it's waste."
That may not be an exact quote...But it's close.

Mr. & Mrs Potatohead

I'm with you all the way...
Haven't had any good smoke for some time now :(

Jeffersonian

Huh?

Jeffersonian

Einstein was a smart guy in certain areas, but I still wouldn't let him pick the wine for dinner.

I think the French have figured out how to vitrify nuclear waste to a pretty fair extent, no?

Fidel

Well Gary, since you asked:

* In 2009 Iraq joined the Chemical Weapons Convention and declared "two bunkers with filled and unfilled chemical weapons munitions, some precursors, as well as five former chemical weapons production facilities"

* The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US invasion, Wired magazine reported.

* The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War.

* n August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a secure site.

* Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the city.

Source: Iraq Did Have Chemical Weapons

Or maybe you should read THIS for some clarification.


I could keep going and going and going with reference and citations, but I suspect your question was rhetorical and you want to keep your head in the sand and listen to the talking points from MSNBC or DailyKoz or the HuffPost.

Mr. & Mrs Potatohead

Pretty sure I wouldn't let him do any cooking either!!
I'm in the dark with regard to what the French are doing...
What are they doing?

Jeffersonian

Here's an article that describes the process and who's using it. When I read about it, and it was some time ago, the French had refined the process to the point that many decades of waste could be vitrified into a fairly small volume that would be easily stored.