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Different versions of Brisket??
Warthog
Posts: 84
Okay, I have a question regarding Brisket. When I lived in Columbus, OH., we used to go to this place called Hoggy's. They served brisket there that was excellent! You could have a brisket sandwich or the brisket dinner. Both had the consistency of pulled pork. But, it was beef. My question is: Was this brisket? I would love to make a brisket on the egg that turned out like this. Mine have been less than stellar. Not bad, but when you have one thing in mind, and you get something altogether different, it makes it difficult to rave about. I am wondering if the world of Ohio BBQ refers to pot roast as brisket?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
John
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
John
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Attended a Mini BGE cookout with Pork Butt Mike, FlaPoolMan and my self. Pat -FLAPoolMan- brought a brisket that was the moistest I have ever eaten.
Beef, Brisket, FlaPoolMan
This recipe was given to me by my BGE salesman at Pinch-A-Penny here in Melbourne, Fl.
INGREDIENTS:
1 Whole Brisket
Mix:
1 12 Ozs Beer
12 oz Water
1/2 cup Brown sugar
10 Shakes Worcestershire Sauce
4 Cloves Garlic, Minced
1 Tbs Cayenne pepper
5 Shakes Tabasco, to taste
2 Tsp Onion powder,
2 Tsp Dry mustard.
S&P to taste
Heat and Serve:
2 Pkgs Au Jus, Mix as per package instructions.
Procedure:
1 One whole brisket with fat trimmed then cut in half (to fit in steamer trays later---8 X 10 which are 1/2 commercial tray size).
2 Rub the night before with your favorite steak rub, I use Montreal Steak Seasoning.
3 Place both pieces on the egg at 250-275 direct for 1 1/2 hrs each side.
4 Remove brisket pieces and put in steamer trays, 8 X 10 inches, dividing the liquid. mix and cover tightly with foil.
5 Return to egg at 250 indirect (they can be stacked on top of each other) and leave for 4 to 5 hours.
6 Remove and discard cooking liquid, slice against the grain and add au jus sauce (about 2 cups each container) and serve.
7 If precooking for the next day wait until you are ready to reheat to add the au jus.
8 Not the conventional way to make a brisket but it is really easy and the taste is great.!
Recipe Type
Beef, Main Dish
Recipe Source
Source: BGE Forum, FlaPoolMan, 2008/06/30
coo -
Thanks Richard, Yes not the traditional way to cook a brisket but this is one I do for charity cooks and get great reviews from guests and chefs. Really hard to mess up this way but give it a try and let me know what you think.
here it is after slicing on Saturday. We ate it Sunday.
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I do my briskets "pulled" style, or chopped actually just like I do butts. I pull it apart in chunks then take a large East/West Knife and go at it until pieces are less than one inch. Plate it, and drizzle a lttle sauce on the side. But that's just me.
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Sounds like what you were getting at your favorite restaurant was the point section of the brisket. I always cook a whole brisket anymore and it's about $1.50 lb @ Sam's club compared to buying just the flat @ over $3.00 lb. Some prefer the flat which gets sliced and is served at most bbq restaurants and some prefer the point which is rippled with more fat and pulls much easier when completed. A whole brisket consists of the flat and the point and there are several good websites that break down the separation and cooking process. I usually cook my brisket between 250 - 275 degrees dome temp and never pull it off the egg until internal meat temp is at least 190. I have read posts that say to pull a brisket at 140, this will result in trying to cut through a piece of shoe leather. Also, when slicing the flat, always cut against the grain.
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Thanks for the info. Can you buy just the point? How big can you get it?
Again, thanks -
Yo John
You can also get moist fatty slow cooked beef with a shoulder clod or a chuck roast. But if they said it's brisket, it's prolly brisket.
The point of the brisket very much has the texture (fatty and moist) of pork. But the majority of the brisket is the flat, and it doesn't come close to the texture of pulled pork. If they say it's brisket, I'd guess it is. Either they mix in meat from the point and flat, or you are getting all point.
Have you cooked a whole brisket yet with the point attached? That muscle has a ton of fat, and when rendered it is one of the most amazing pieces of meat you can put in your mouf.
Just some thoughts. Have a good one!
Chris -
I have been doing flats only. I will have to try the point to see if that is what I am looking for. I guess I could do the whole thing and then mix them together to get the consistency of what I am looking for.
Thanks again. -
Pat,
Thanks again for the complete recipe--it was great talking with you again this afternoon -
Always great to talk to you Mike. Enjoy
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