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Proposed 20% border tax
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nolaegghead said:The other way of reducing costs is to reduce quality. In the history of the world, this has never been done.
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I wonder if bge was built in usa whether delivery times would speed up...not picking on mexico here but i gotta believe moving stuff across the border may involve delays related to inspections, etc
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ToTheMax said:nolaegghead said:The other way of reducing costs is to reduce quality. In the history of the world, this has never been done.
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Skiddymarker said:Just saw this link used on CBC as they were discussing the issue - https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico
Trade between Mexico is about $590B, including the BGE parts, Mexico has a trade surplus of about $60B. Of this some $90B is vehicles and car parts, the parts feed current assembly lines in USA. @Mickey new Tacoma might have been built or parted in Mexico. 20% tariff will either hit the company's bottom line or increase the price or maybe both. I'm betting China is already on the phone to Mexico trying to cut a deal with them.
All US trucks are out of San Antonio. They were 3 years ago when I retired.Salado TX & 30A FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers. -
westernbbq said:I wonder if bge was built in usa whether delivery times would speed up...not picking on mexico here but i gotta believe moving stuff across the border may involve delays related to inspections, etc
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Gulfcoastguy said:Eoin said:Don't you guys sell lots of sh1t to other countries? 20% the other way might hurt too.
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Maybe he'll just tax the oil imports. The religious environmental folks will be really confused and torn then. Oh dear, do I march with happy signs or angry ones, oh dear.
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im happy with a 20 percent tax over nafta, look what nafta did since 1993, the perot sucking noise
if this was a business model the green line would be a red (loss) line for the year the govt shows it as a green (profit) line
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fishlessman said:im happy with a 20 percent tax over nafta, look what nafta did since 1993, the perot sucking noise
if this was a business model the green line would be a red (loss) line for the year the govt shows it as a green (profit) lineSoutheast Florida - LBGE
In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’ Dare to think for yourself. -
jtcBoynton said:fishlessman said:im happy with a 20 percent tax over nafta, look what nafta did since 1993, the perot sucking noise
if this was a business model the green line would be a red (loss) line for the year the govt shows it as a green (profit) line
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No. The Asians started building factories and making products in Mexico for the US market because it was more cost effective for them than making them in Asia for the US market. My major point is that some of the Mexican imports shown on the graph were already imports and not US jobs that were lost to Mexico. You really need full accounting to get an accurate picture of the impact to American workers.Southeast Florida - LBGE
In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’ Dare to think for yourself. -
jtcBoynton said:No. The Asians started building factories and making products in Mexico for the US market because it was more cost effective for them than making them in Asia for the US market. My major point is that some of the Mexican imports shown on the graph were already imports and not US jobs that were lost to Mexico. You really need full accounting to get an accurate picture of the impact to American workers.
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
Nothing wrong with Primo.
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imagine a factory making eggs in atlanta georgia with jobs ranging from 15 to 30 dollars an hour, i would apply in a heartbeat and quite that burger flipping 7.25 an hour jobfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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And why would they pay that much? Seems like they should be able to get plenty of help at say $8.50. If they can't they will probably get H-2 workers from Mexico!!Southeast Florida - LBGE
In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’ Dare to think for yourself. -
fishlessman said:jtcBoynton said:No. The Asians started building factories and making products in Mexico for the US market because it was more cost effective for them than making them in Asia for the US market. My major point is that some of the Mexican imports shown on the graph were already imports and not US jobs that were lost to Mexico. You really need full accounting to get an accurate picture of the impact to American workers.Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada
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bigalsworth said:fishlessman said:jtcBoynton said:No. The Asians started building factories and making products in Mexico for the US market because it was more cost effective for them than making them in Asia for the US market. My major point is that some of the Mexican imports shown on the graph were already imports and not US jobs that were lost to Mexico. You really need full accounting to get an accurate picture of the impact to American workers.fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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jtcBoynton said:And why would they pay that much? Seems like they should be able to get plenty of help at say $8.50. If they can't they will probably get H-2 workers from Mexico!!fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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fishlessman said:bigalsworth said:fishlessman said:jtcBoynton said:No. The Asians started building factories and making products in Mexico for the US market because it was more cost effective for them than making them in Asia for the US market. My major point is that some of the Mexican imports shown on the graph were already imports and not US jobs that were lost to Mexico. You really need full accounting to get an accurate picture of the impact to American workers.Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada
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nolaegghead said:westernbbq said:I wonder if bge was built in usa whether delivery times would speed up...not picking on mexico here but i gotta believe moving stuff across the border may involve delays related to inspections, etc
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fishlessman said:jtcBoynton said:And why would they pay that much? Seems like they should be able to get plenty of help at say $8.50. If they can't they will probably get H-2 workers from Mexico!!Southeast Florida - LBGE
In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’ Dare to think for yourself. -
The world wide issue is that countries like the USA and the UK got rich by being pioneers of mass production and efficiency and sold our stuff all over the world to 'undeveloped' nations while paying them a pittance for their raw materials, helpfully mined by our companies given licences by their corrupt leaders. Of course, we in the UK did this first by expoiting our empire and turning rich societies like China and India into our subjects and captive markets.
We are rich and a large part of the globe is poor. Globalisation seen from the side of the poor of the world probably looks different to how it looks to us. More like, we have been exploited for years and now global trade gives us a bit of the good stuff that the rich have earned off our backs.
Globalised trade means evening out the world's wealth in the long run. This means that, in relative terms, we in the West get poorer because the rest of the world is catching us up.
If we do not accept this evening out, we are going to maintain inequality and that is going to result in conflict and immigration pressure. We cannot simply maintain our wealth and try and fence out the large % of the world's population that is poor. They will try and get here, as we probably would if we lived under their conditions, and conflict will result.
What is the best long term solution for our children?
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jtcBoynton said:fishlessman said:jtcBoynton said:And why would they pay that much? Seems like they should be able to get plenty of help at say $8.50. If they can't they will probably get H-2 workers from Mexico!!fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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