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  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
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    Oregon Shooter Described as an Isolated Weirdo Who Hated Organized Religion

    Oregon Shooter Described as an Isolated Weirdo Who Hated Organized Religion

    That's his dating profile from this site(Well, I guess it was his dating profile)
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  • jimreed777
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    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting-pre-planned-act-of-jihad-warning-posted-yesterday/

    Dismiss the source if you so choose. I want to see more concrete evidence before I call this terrorism...but it looks like there is smoke.
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  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
    edited October 2015
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    Eggcelsior said:
    GATraveller said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    GATraveller said:
    You're not going to legislate a solution like Washington wants you to believe.  It's a mental health/morality issue.
    The mental health part is debatable.  
    I agree with you and don't think mental health is applicable to this case (other than to say anyone who would do something like this is a nut).  From what I can tell so far this guy is a radical muslim/muslim sympathizing terrorist who feels like Christians are his/their enemy.  I'm afraid this will be the new norm here in the US as well as Europe and the rest of the world due to the current Jihad.  It will never be a "live and let live" situation for these radicals.  Attacks like these are not a gun control issue because it has nothing to do with guns.....just like 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing.  These are people who want to kill us based solely on who we are and will employ any/all means necessary to accomplish these twisted ideals.  I think the POTUS was remiss in his speech last night to address it as an issue of gun control and not the terrorist attack that it really was.      
    Huh?

    The dude's verified profile states that he "dislikes organized religion", is "non-religious yet spiritual" and prefers Paganism/Wiccan if anything.

    If anything, dude was a witch, not a jihadist.
    The article I read said otherwise (no it was not Fox News).  If it was wrong then I stand corrected.  If so - sorry but his actions don't line up with any "spiritual" beliefs I know of outside radical Islam.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

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  • Eggcelsior
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    jimreed777 said:
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting-pre-planned-act-of-jihad-warning-posted-yesterday/

    Dismiss the source if you so choose. I want to see more concrete evidence before I call this terrorism...but it looks like there is smoke.
    No need to dismiss the source. There is nothing "concrete" about the loose associations there. I love this:

    However, WARNING – this profile looks to be recently constructed and may be a spoof by the 4Chan website people who are trolling the storyline, angry about the media pointing fingers at the prior story on their site: ( The profile appears edited post death – SEE HERE )   So don’t necessarily trust the content




    If you click the link, it"s the Wayback Machine, which explicitly states this:

    Note

    This calendar view maps the number of times http://spiritualpassions.com/seeme/ironcross45.html was crawled by the Wayback Machine, not how many times the site was actually updated. More info in the FAQ.

    It was crawled 10 times today because there has been more web traffic to that site and other sites are linking to it. That's essentially how the Wayback Machine works. That page hasn't been accessed in more than 3 months as stated on the profile page. Similar to how the forum here shows when you last accessed it on your profile page.



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  • SoMdEggHead
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    bgebrent said:
    Tragic loss of innocent life, tragic.  Too sad there wasn't a good guy with a gun in the room, religious or atheist, good guy with a gun was lacking.  So sad.
    ... Gun Free Zone, The Law Abiding Citizen didn't have a chance. 
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  • Fred19Flintstone
    Fred19Flintstone Posts: 8,168
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    SoMdEggHead said:
    bgebrent said:
    Tragic loss of innocent life, tragic.  Too sad there wasn't a good guy with a gun in the room, religious or atheist, good guy with a gun was lacking.  So sad.
    ... Gun Free Zone, The Law Abiding Citizen didn't have a chance. 
    I think about that everyday at work as I pass by the sign that says "No Weapons Beyond This Point".
    Flint, Michigan
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  • GATraveller
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    Fred19Flintstone said:
    SoMdEggHead said:
    bgebrent said:
    Tragic loss of innocent life, tragic.  Too sad there wasn't a good guy with a gun in the room, religious or atheist, good guy with a gun was lacking.  So sad.
    ... Gun Free Zone, The Law Abiding Citizen didn't have a chance. 
    I think about that everyday at work as I pass by the sign that says "No Weapons Beyond This Point".
    I'd say those are the people they'd go after first.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

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  • DaveRichardson
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    Fish in a barrel. 

    LBGE #19 from North GA Eggfest, 2014

    Stockbridge, GA - just south of Atlanta where we are covered up in Zombies!  #TheWalkingDead films practically next door!

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  • Eggcelsior
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    SoMdEggHead said:
    bgebrent said:
    Tragic loss of innocent life, tragic.  Too sad there wasn't a good guy with a gun in the room, religious or atheist, good guy with a gun was lacking.  So sad.
    ... Gun Free Zone, The Law Abiding Citizen didn't have a chance. 
    Students can CC with permission from the School Administration. Employees can't. 

    Here are 2 videos of a student who carries. The political bent in each one is quite apparent.

    https://youtu.be/bK-Ht57AdBA

    https://youtu.be/b2I93N6H_eM

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  • HeavyG
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    GATraveller said:
    Eggcelsior said:
    GATraveller said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    GATraveller said:
    You're not going to legislate a solution like Washington wants you to believe.  It's a mental health/morality issue.
    The mental health part is debatable.  
    I agree with you and don't think mental health is applicable to this case (other than to say anyone who would do something like this is a nut).  From what I can tell so far this guy is a radical muslim/muslim sympathizing terrorist who feels like Christians are his/their enemy.  I'm afraid this will be the new norm here in the US as well as Europe and the rest of the world due to the current Jihad.  It will never be a "live and let live" situation for these radicals.  Attacks like these are not a gun control issue because it has nothing to do with guns.....just like 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing.  These are people who want to kill us based solely on who we are and will employ any/all means necessary to accomplish these twisted ideals.  I think the POTUS was remiss in his speech last night to address it as an issue of gun control and not the terrorist attack that it really was.      
    Huh?

    The dude's verified profile states that he "dislikes organized religion", is "non-religious yet spiritual" and prefers Paganism/Wiccan if anything.

    If anything, dude was a witch, not a jihadist.
    The article I read said otherwise (no it was not Fox News).  If it was wrong then I stand corrected.  If so - sorry but his actions don't line up with any "spiritual" beliefs I know of outside radical Islam.
    You don't really know much about history do you?
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
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    HeavyG said:
    GATraveller said:
    Eggcelsior said:
    GATraveller said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    GATraveller said:
    You're not going to legislate a solution like Washington wants you to believe.  It's a mental health/morality issue.
    The mental health part is debatable.  
    I agree with you and don't think mental health is applicable to this case (other than to say anyone who would do something like this is a nut).  From what I can tell so far this guy is a radical muslim/muslim sympathizing terrorist who feels like Christians are his/their enemy.  I'm afraid this will be the new norm here in the US as well as Europe and the rest of the world due to the current Jihad.  It will never be a "live and let live" situation for these radicals.  Attacks like these are not a gun control issue because it has nothing to do with guns.....just like 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing.  These are people who want to kill us based solely on who we are and will employ any/all means necessary to accomplish these twisted ideals.  I think the POTUS was remiss in his speech last night to address it as an issue of gun control and not the terrorist attack that it really was.      
    Huh?

    The dude's verified profile states that he "dislikes organized religion", is "non-religious yet spiritual" and prefers Paganism/Wiccan if anything.

    If anything, dude was a witch, not a jihadist.
    The article I read said otherwise (no it was not Fox News).  If it was wrong then I stand corrected.  If so - sorry but his actions don't line up with any "spiritual" beliefs I know of outside radical Islam.
    You don't really know much about history do you?
    I know you have a history of being a douche.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

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  • Sardonicus
    Sardonicus Posts: 1,700
    edited October 2015
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    Paraphrasing Al,

    Indifference:  Doing nothing over and over again and expecting different results.

    "Too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and barbecuing."      - George Burns

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