Devastated

nolaegghead said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@nolaegghead I did a poor job of representing my view.

I believe in global warming.  We should understand the root cause.  We should increase our knowledge base and learn to make accurate and predictive models (which we currently cannot).  We should understand the real impact of temperature changes both up and down.

Unfortunately mankind is not very good at acting in the best interest of the masses.  We will not take the steps required to reduce our footprint on the earth.  It just will not happen.

People will not reduce their drive to improve their immediate standard of living in order to stave off climate change.  That is to abstract for them.  Especially when the majority of the world is struggling for fresh water and food.

We need to learn the effects and try to adapt.  Limit the future damage as best we can but we will not take the steps necessary to reverse course.

I personally think we should remove all gov't subsidies on currently profitable energy sources and instead invest in clean energy.  Not the crap investment made to the private companies, but to universities who will freely license the tech.

@Ozzie_Isaac  That's a pretty pessimistic view point.   That majority of the industrialized nations are on board with protecting the planet in this regard.  It's not that unrealistic to do what we can until data shows us to change.  

We buy insurance to protect our house in case it catches on fire, change the oil on on the car to keep the engine from failing, but when faced with rising sea levels and global famine (as well as the political instability that will result), it's like, oh, that's gonna cut into my quarterly profits, so it's a hoax.   I'm not optimistic New Orleans and my home will be here in 100 years, or much of Florida, and coastland around the world where a disproportionate percentage of the population live.  I'm still optimistic, but it's sad that the technology to cut down on CO2 has been here, and developing it creates jobs.  Alternative energy sources and technology create jobs.  I'm for nuclear, solar, wind, electric cars, etc.  But having a group of ideological morons scream and horde incandescent lightbulbs because the govmnt wants to increase efficiency is just flaunting a mentality that, if the human race wants to cling to, will accelerate and exacerbate the a global Darwin award.

I completely agree the gov subsidies should end.  And we need to dismantle the lobbyists' influence and take all the corporate money out of the process.  

Or, we could just start getting smaller in population to survive, just give up on mitigation.  Stop teaching abstinence and inhibiting birth control in undeveloped nations.  Get ready in other ways. 

theyolksonyou said:

I think tomorrow I'm gonna get really drunk and try to steer this thread to politics and/or word choices. 

Hungry Joe said:

  @shannoncorum , what kind of charcoal do you use?