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THEBuckeye
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I have yet to take on a brisket with my Large Egg but drool each time I see the pics from brisket cooks. It's just me and SWMBO so a 16 hour 16 pound overnight packer are not in my immediate future. That said, I want to give it a go. I'm not a digi-cue or maverick guy (yet) and happy to light the egg at 6AM but not 11PM.
And, given there are many new forum members, can you brisket Eggsperts give us a brisket 101 Game Plan? Assume we're decent Eggers (ribs, butts, spatchcocks, reverse sears, pizza) but complete brisket rookies.
Thanks! Look forward to the info.
And, given there are many new forum members, can you brisket Eggsperts give us a brisket 101 Game Plan? Assume we're decent Eggers (ribs, butts, spatchcocks, reverse sears, pizza) but complete brisket rookies.
Thanks! Look forward to the info.
New Albany, Ohio
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Brother Buckeye, being at work I don't have the time to type it up. That said, if you don't find the answer that you are looking for, feel free to call me after 7:00pm any night of the week. I will gladly share the little that I know while driving home. #228-627-5400. Name is Scottie.
Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
Status- Standing by.
The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. -
No claims to be a brisket eggspert but I will share what works for me on long duration (over-night) cooks. I don't run with any controller. I will generally load the LBGE well into the fire ring and light a good two hours or more before loading up the target meat. Get the BGE stable (no vent changes for at least an hour) at around 250-280*F on the calibrated dome thermo. Load the packer brisket (indirect setup). Make sure the BGE returns to the original temp. Then time for some sleep. I will wake up at least once during the night and check the temp. Let it run and see where I am the following AM. Adjust as needed to finish.
Of late I have been seeing around 1hr/lb at the above temps. When finished, either let it cool a bit or FTC til ready to eat. I'm sure more will be along.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
@travisstrick boils his I kid I kid. I am almost the exact same as @lousubcap but have probably done 1/20th of the briskets he has so nothing more to add. Just mainly wanted to point out that @travisstrick boils hisColumbia, SC --- LBGE 2011 -- MINI BGE 2013
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I cooked a 8-9lb brisket a couple weekends ago for week day dinners. Put it on at 5:30am and it took about 16 hours. Use your favorite rub or just salt and pepper. Cook indirect at 225f to 275f dome temp. Probe for tenderness(probing butter feel) in the thickest part of the flat starting at internal temp of 195f. That's the simple basics.
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No reason to make it more complicated or over think it.
Find a 6-8 lbr (or the smallest you can find), and the best grade meat you can find, rub it well with salt and pepper (if you like a little heat - add some cayenne pepper), put on a 225-250 egg with a few chunks of oak, hickory or cherry or any combination, and you are set. If you can cook a butt you can do a brisket. Brisket is done when it feels like a done butt.
You have been on here a lot - you have read the posts. Just try a chunk of meat and do it. It will be great!
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Burning lump in Downingtown, PA or diesel in Cape May, NJ.
....just look for the smoke!
Large and MiniMax
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Light at 6 am. Guessing dinner to be around 5-8 pm so that leaves a healthy window to get it to a sexy jiggle. you've been here long enough to see probably a thousand brisket threads. But as requested brisket 101. First trim brisket to about a quarter inch of fat throughout & remove/cut out the hard deckle as it won't render out during the cooking process. Use your preferred rub and apply liberally. Personally I prefer a 50/50 S&P and nothing else (it doesn't need it ). Make sure the egg is clean so airflow doesn't become an issue mid stream. Load the egg with lump & Oak Chunks to the point it almost touches the PS. And ideally have the largest lump at the bottom for the best airflow (if you forget this it's not a deal breaker). Light the pit dead center in one spot only and let the fire become somewhat established. Once the fire is established put in the PS (one leg of the PS should be dead center of the hinge area to help deflect the hottest of the radiant heat) or diverter and let it heat naturally with all the other ceramics. Look and smell for good smoke and begin dialing in the target temp I like 235℉. Once you have your temp stabilized put in the brisket. I go fat cap down and always have the point in the back toward the hinge section/flat toward the Pit Master. The pit temp will almost immediately drop because of the cold brisket...not to worry the temp will come back. If you have to adjust make miniscule adjustments to avoid huge temp fluctuations. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Checking temp on the brisket? Check at the thickest part of the flat NOT POINT but the key indicator it's done is a sexy jiggle and no resistance when you probe it with your Thermapen. Cooking more for feel than temp. Then slice that bad boy up. Enjoy.
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Great post Mr Husker. Only thing I can add is to trim the fat off of the point muscle so you get some bark for the burnt ends, and leave all the fat on under the flat. I think it is also best to trim all silver skin and fat from the top of the flat. Cook fat down, and ride it through. Excellent points about going by feel instead of temperature. There is no magic number. Your temp of 235 is great for the EGG.
Also, I gotta say, BGE's Cosmic Cow is infinitely better than salt and pepper on a brisket
Happy brisketeering!
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@THEBuckeye-since you mention a flat and @Chubbs mentions the Travis method-here's the link:
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1138233/brisket-how-i-do-it/p1 This method has received great reviews for cooking flats. BTW-@Travis has moved on from this and has won a few brisket comps since then.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
Nice tip from @NPHuskerFL for placement of the plate setter. We all know that the back part of the egg is the hot spot, but I never thought about positioning the plate setter to mitigate the heat.
Any road will take you there if you don't know where you're going.
Terry
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Great thread/post, I cook mostly for 4 to 8 people and wonder is smoking a flat worth it or is a packer the only real way to go? I have only done flats.
PS I have yet to even come close to nailing a flat just ask my wife, I thought the handful I have done were pretty good but she has shared they have been her least favorite meals off the egg and she really does like the BGE food.
Charlotte, Michigan XL BGE -
@Grillmagic For a group that size do yourself a favor and do a whole packer. There is nothing wrong with a flat but, the point is the best! Not to mention you'll pay close to or more than 2x what a packer is per # (varies regionally). I cook for 4 most of the time and any leftovers are quickly vac saved, labeled and frozen for later use in future meals (@EggObsessed brisket chili is pure money using leftovers.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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NPHuskerFL said:@Grillmagic For a group that size do yourself a favor and do a whole packer. There is nothing wrong with a flat but, the point is the best! Not to mention you'll pay close to or more than 2x what a packer is per # (varies regionally). I cook for 4 most of the time and any leftovers are quickly vac saved, labeled and frozen for later use in future meals (@EggObsessed brisket chili is pure money using leftovers.Charlotte, Michigan XL BGE
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Hats off to all you guys. Unbelievably helpful. I hope to meet many of you in person at an eggfest someday.
Phoenix -
You do not need prime, choice is good enough. I hope you have a meat themp., start checking at 195 and keep cooking until it probes like buttar. Check naked whiz for more info. I have had briskets that were done in an hour per pound and others that were over two hours per pound. Cook until it reaches the temp not the time.
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And the Egghead forum comes through again. Nothing I can add that hasn't already been covered.
Most importantly, just give it a go. You learn from experience. Absolute worse case scenario is you have brisket meat for chili, baked beans, etc.
Steve
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bill37 said:You do not need prime, choice is good enough. I hope you have a meat themp., start checking at 195 and keep cooking until it probes like buttuh. Check naked whiz for more info. I have had briskets that were done in an hour per pound and others that were over two hours per pound. Cook until it reaches the temp not the time.
Start checking around 195℉ for like buttuh on Choice and Prime cuts. On Wagyu (Kobe) you may be at buttuh by 185℉
Each brisket IS different. Have fun with it.
LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
Don't be shy about cooking a decent sized packer for two. It doesn't last as long as you think.
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This was great advice for me a while back in your place.
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1138317/turbo-beef-brisket/p1
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DoubleEgger said:Don't be shy about cooking a decent sized packer for two. It doesn't last as long as you think.
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theyolksonyou said:DoubleEgger said:Don't be shy about cooking a decent sized packer for two. It doesn't last as long as you think.
Two
Yes indeed
LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
Like @NPHuskerFL said, go ahead and do a packer if you can find one. Flats are any where from 5-9 bucks a pound around me where you can get a packer for half that depending on quality of the meat. I'd say the more difficult thing for a first timer doing a packer is figuring out where the point and the flat separate as opposed to whether or not it's done. Especially someone with as much experience as yourself.I raise my kids, cook and golf. When work gets in the way I'm pissed, I'm pissed off 48 weeks a year.Inbetween Iowa and Colorado, not close to anything remotely entertaining outside of football season.
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Thanks everyone. I (and I'm sure others) appreciate the info and advice.New Albany, Ohio
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theyolksonyou said:DoubleEgger said:Don't be shy about cooking a decent sized packer for two. It doesn't last as long as you think.
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NPHuskerFL said:
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Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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@Jeepster47 That is two full packers.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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@NPHuskerFL ... okay, that's the answer to the first question. What about the second part? Dumb idea?
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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@Jeepster47 I wouldn't cut them. But, then again I'm not a Texan. This is not an uncommon thing to do there. But, if you do it you want to separate them (not merely cutting the brisket in half).
BBQ with Franklin: The Brisket: http://youtu.be/VmTzdMHu5KU
Good video using Franklin style on a BGE.
Brisket Recipe - Franklin's BBQ Style - Big Meat Sunday: http://youtu.be/h6HnCINENX0
LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
THEBuckeye said:I'm thinking a smallish flat to start!
Just my $.02 but I would buy a packer. I haven't had great luck with flats. The problem I have found is that if you buy a flat it has been completely trimmed of all fat. It is hard to get it tender. Smoke the whole packer and plan to have leftovers. You can use it to make some awesome chili or just some sammiches.Which came first the chicken or the egg? I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. -
Everything I do (and have learned from these guys) has been shared except one thing... Sit back and relax! Enjoy the cook and don't stress over it. You will have delicious eats at the end. Unless your guests are comp cooks or accomplished in bbq, they will think your brisket is fantastic.
Oh, and get a packer. There is no such thing as too much brisket.L x2, M, S, Mini and a Blackstone 36. She says I have enough now....eggAddict from MN!
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