OT: expiration dates - not on food but car tires! : OT

RRP · August 14

Go ahead and roll your eyes, but this just might be a PSA and a life saver...OK? I first became aware of automobile tire mfg coding tires in a 60 Minutes program years ago. They really took the angle that you might think you were buying new tires while actually they may have just been sitting in some warehouse wasting away the 6 year recommended life.

So my question deals with how many of you worry about the 6 year life expiration? Once again my car dealer warned me recently my tires were made in 2011 in spite of having plenty of thread. My take is this is just my daily driver in town - not high speed highway driving so I will push my luck until at least this winter or 2026 or longer!

Botch · August 14

The last time I took my '08 Tacoma in for Safety/Emissions inspection, to renew the tags, it didn't pass because the tires were too old, even though I still had plenty of tread; I wasn't playing in a band anymore (hauling equipment every weekend) nor could ski anymore (driving up the mountain every weekend in the winter) so the truck just wasn't getting used enough; but I still need it for the occasional lumber/furniture/oddball hauling need.
So, I guess I don't worry about it, my local church-state tells me when they need to be changed.

DoubleEgger · August 14

I swap the tires on my Camaro due to age and not mileage. I’m concerned about sidewall integrity. I don’t want a blowout especially cruising mountain roads.

RRP · August 14

So what you are saying is you didn't pass, but there was some way around not replacing or being grounded? Surprisingly the state of IL has not yet passed a passenger car inspection regulation - at least until they figure some way to tax us for failing to meet their reg. They have been toying with some kind of annual mileage tax which hasn't found the light of day yet.

Buckwoody Egger · August 14

only problem i have incurred with old date range tires was costco, i think, refusing to patch / repair the tire due to age. tread and puncture location were fine but not the age. i think a pep boys ended up patching it.

lousubcap · August 14

I am with @DoubleEgger here. Being old I don't put the miles on like I used to. I am not getting new shoes at the expiration or "use by date" with the tires but I have been told by independent mechanics that at 8 years of age it's time for new shoes. FWIW-
@RRP - If you took that Corvette out and hammered it the car would quite likely burn thru tires well inside the mileage or age criteria. Just suggesting...

RRP · August 14

That's interesting as I was considering buying 4 Michelins from Costco when they go on sale 8-24

GrateEggspectations · August 14

lousubcap said:

I am with @DoubleEgger here. Being old I don't put the miles on like I used to. I am not getting new shoes at the expiration or "use by date" with the tires but I have been told by independent mechanics that at 8 years of age it's time for new shoes. FWIW-
@RRP - If you took that Corvette out and hammered it the car would quite likely burn thru tires well inside the mileage or age criteria. Just suggesting...

@RRP

Please be sure to post on the exotic car thread when it happens.

RRP · August 14

DoubleEgger said:

I swap the tires on my Camaro due to age and not mileage. I’m concerned about sidewall integrity. I don’t want a blowout especially cruising mountain roads.

I wasn't even considering the costly rubber replacement for my 30 year old Corvette, but then talk about a fair weather car that puppy with only 17K miles is it. It's no trailer queen, but a car cover hideaway for sure!

Buckwoody Egger · August 14

ron if it’s your daily driver go for it.

not too worried about being stranded nowadays with cell phones and AAA and all that but if/when you get a flat your replacement “one tire” or “set” that’s available and price will be at the mercy of what’s on the shelf or delivered same day.

planned vs unplanned will get you the tire you like. michelins are great, you can shop all sorts of reviews and options at tirerack.com

caliking · August 14

Buckwoody Egger said:

only problem i have incurred with old date range tires was costco, i think, refusing to patch / repair the tire due to age. tread and puncture location were fine but not the age. i think a pep boys ended up patching it.

I didn't know that Costco repaired tires. Noted for future reference.

If you don't mind, how much did Pep Boys charge for patching? I can throw a rock and hit several places that will patch a tire for $20, no questions asked about tire age. They do get finicky about sidewall punctures, though.

Ozzie_Isaac · August 14

Ask Paul Walker, he’ll support your position on expired tires.

JohnInCarolina · August 14

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Ask Paul Walker, he’ll support your position on expired tires.

Man I had not thought about the tires being responsible for that crash, but I bet they played a role.

When the old rubber meets the road…

GrateEggspectations · August 14

Remember folks, old rubbers are risky.

Buckwoody Egger · August 14

caliking said:

Buckwoody Egger said:

only problem i have incurred with old date range tires was costco, i think, refusing to patch / repair the tire due to age. tread and puncture location were fine but not the age. i think a pep boys ended up patching it.

I didn't know that Costco repaired tires. Noted for future reference.

If you don't mind, how much did Pep Boys charge for patching? I can throw a rock and hit several places that will patch a tire for $20, no questions asked about tire age. They do get finicky about sidewall punctures, though.

sorry it’s been more than a few years but pep boys was either free or $20. i haven’t been back and it was a “any port in a storm” decision. costco is good for purchasing a set and getting a good price. but wait times for repairs send me elsewhere. that and costco would sell a battery but not install it nor did they have the little felt battery washers or tools for a diy parking lot swap and leave the old one. so for tires i do discount tire (match up beat costco price) and batteries are autozone/ advanced.

fishlessman · August 14

they have been reducing petroleum products in tires and they dont seem to age as well. put 70 k on a set of kumhos on the rover that would have gone 100k with tread life but the were so cracked i changed them. my 2015 f550 has original continentals and they have that dry rot cracking as well, lots of tread left as i dont put many miles on it. thats going to be a pricey swap out

when i was driving the rover during covid at 140 plus down the road i had michelins, great tire for high speed, great cornering. my lexus has bridgestones, softer, quiter, much smoother ride but those days of flying down the road at high speeds are over, i like the bridgestones on this vehicle. both seem just as good in rain or snow

TheFishWhisperer · August 14

fishlessman said:

they have been reducing petroleum products in tires and they dont seem to age as well. put 70 k on a set of kumhos on the rover that would have gone 100k with tread life but the were so cracked i changed them. my 2015 f550 has original continentals and they have that dry rot cracking as well, lots of tread left as i dont put many miles on it. thats going to be a pricey swap out

when i was driving the rover during covid at 140 plus down the road i had michelins, great tire for high speed, great cornering. my lexus has bridgestones, softer, quiter, much smoother ride but those days of flying down the road at high speeds are over, i like the bridgestones on this vehicle. both seem just as good in rain or snow

Greetings, and welcome once again to a glimpse into the lifestyles of the fabulously frugal!

Oh, the tires! A subject of such opulent concern for our esteemed automobile connoisseur. It seems even the most magnificent of vehicles, a Land Rover no less, has fallen victim to the modern travesty of petroleum reduction in its tires. Imagine, if you will, the horror of a set of Kumhos, with a mere 70,000 miles, being retired not for a lack of tread, but for the unsightly and terribly déclassé appearance of cracks. A similar fate, it seems, has befallen the Continentals on a 2015 F-550, their treads still full of promise, yet ravaged by the cruel hands of time and dry rot. The cost of their replacement? An expense so staggering it could only be uttered in hushed, reverent tones.

And let us not forget the exhilarating days of a bygone era! Picture the high-speed pursuit during the great lockdown, a Land Rover tearing down the highway at a magnificent 140 miles per hour, its performance enhanced by the superior grip of Michelins—a truly exceptional choice for the most discerning of drivers. Now, our subject has embraced a new phase of life, one of quiet luxury. On a Lexus, we find the sumptuous, whisper-quiet ride of Bridgestones, a tire so smooth and gentle it seems to float on a cloud of gin and tonic. A delightful compromise, it seems, with both brands offering equally stellar performance in rain and snow. It is a world of exquisite choices, my friends!

fishlessman · August 14

TheFishWhisperer said:

fishlessman said:

they have been reducing petroleum products in tires and they dont seem to age as well. put 70 k on a set of kumhos on the rover that would have gone 100k with tread life but the were so cracked i changed them. my 2015 f550 has original continentals and they have that dry rot cracking as well, lots of tread left as i dont put many miles on it. thats going to be a pricey swap out

when i was driving the rover during covid at 140 plus down the road i had michelins, great tire for high speed, great cornering. my lexus has bridgestones, softer, quiter, much smoother ride but those days of flying down the road at high speeds are over, i like the bridgestones on this vehicle. both seem just as good in rain or snow

Greetings, and welcome once again to a glimpse into the lifestyles of the fabulously frugal!
Oh, the tires! A subject of such opulent concern for our esteemed automobile connoisseur. It seems even the most magnificent of vehicles, a Land Rover no less, has fallen victim to the modern travesty of petroleum reduction in its tires. Imagine, if you will, the horror of a set of Kumhos, with a mere 70,000 miles, being retired not for a lack of tread, but for the unsightly and terribly déclassé appearance of cracks. A similar fate, it seems, has befallen the Continentals on a 2015 F-550, their treads still full of promise, yet ravaged by the cruel hands of time and dry rot. The cost of their replacement? An expense so staggering it could only be uttered in hushed, reverent tones.
And let us not forget the exhilarating days of a bygone era! Picture the high-speed pursuit during the great lockdown, a Land Rover tearing down the highway at a magnificent 140 miles per hour, its performance enhanced by the superior grip of Michelins—a truly exceptional choice for the most discerning of drivers. Now, our subject has embraced a new phase of life, one of quiet luxury. On a Lexus, we find the sumptuous, whisper-quiet ride of Bridgestones, a tire so smooth and gentle it seems to float on a cloud of gin and tonic. A delightful compromise, it seems, with both brands offering equally stellar performance in rain and snow. It is a world of exquisite choices, my friends!

very exquisite for a whisperer. if you want the kumhos with only 4 years driven on them just ask

im sure they would look nice on your aztec

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JohnInCarolina · August 14

TheFishWhisperer said:

fishlessman said:

they have been reducing petroleum products in tires and they dont seem to age as well. put 70 k on a set of kumhos on the rover that would have gone 100k with tread life but the were so cracked i changed them. my 2015 f550 has original continentals and they have that dry rot cracking as well, lots of tread left as i dont put many miles on it. thats going to be a pricey swap out

when i was driving the rover during covid at 140 plus down the road i had michelins, great tire for high speed, great cornering. my lexus has bridgestones, softer, quiter, much smoother ride but those days of flying down the road at high speeds are over, i like the bridgestones on this vehicle. both seem just as good in rain or snow

Greetings, and welcome once again to a glimpse into the lifestyles of the fabulously frugal!
Oh, the tires! A subject of such opulent concern for our esteemed automobile connoisseur. It seems even the most magnificent of vehicles, a Land Rover no less, has fallen victim to the modern travesty of petroleum reduction in its tires. Imagine, if you will, the horror of a set of Kumhos, with a mere 70,000 miles, being retired not for a lack of tread, but for the unsightly and terribly déclassé appearance of cracks. A similar fate, it seems, has befallen the Continentals on a 2015 F-550, their treads still full of promise, yet ravaged by the cruel hands of time and dry rot. The cost of their replacement? An expense so staggering it could only be uttered in hushed, reverent tones.
And let us not forget the exhilarating days of a bygone era! Picture the high-speed pursuit during the great lockdown, a Land Rover tearing down the highway at a magnificent 140 miles per hour, its performance enhanced by the superior grip of Michelins—a truly exceptional choice for the most discerning of drivers. Now, our subject has embraced a new phase of life, one of quiet luxury. On a Lexus, we find the sumptuous, whisper-quiet ride of Bridgestones, a tire so smooth and gentle it seems to float on a cloud of gin and tonic. A delightful compromise, it seems, with both brands offering equally stellar performance in rain and snow. It is a world of exquisite choices, my friends!

💀

FanOfFanboys · August 15

This is a bigger issue for boat trailers and similar vehicles. They are at greater risk of dry rot than wearing out the tread. Depending on how they were stored, it is a good idea to change them every 5-7 years. Sitting on the side of the road, changing a boat trailer tire, is not a great way to spend a lake day.

BeanHead · August 15

I keep my Alpha in the garage and only drive it a few miles a week, breaks were squeaky so I took the car in for service at a place I trust and they said I should think about new tires (6years old 25k miles). Said I would and had a blowout three miles from the shop on the way home… now I have four new tires.

MaskedMarvel · August 15

We don’t really deal with anything, other than checking tread, here in NC, but a few things have learned:

if you’re seeing visible dry rot, the tire needs replacing.

Tires have a chemical that fights dry rot in the rubber. To activate it - you have to drive the tire. Get those vehicles moving, people!

I’ll never step foot into a Discount Tire store again. They’re flashy. But the tyrannical sales pitch when just trying to get a simple plug or a single tire was hostage-crisis level when trying to get my vehicle back after refusing their ultimatum. Screw that place. Terrible.

costco sells tires here, and guarantees them against roadside hazard blah blah blah. They rotate and balance, as well as repair, under that warranty.

I’ve had exactly two complete blowouts on the highway, at speed. First was the pickup. 80mph. That was crazy, but the state supported incident hazard support vehicle came to the rescue. Having that big jack was a game changer.

Second was a rental Hyundai suv that went at the very beginning of snowpocalypse ten or so years ago. I’ll never use BUDGET car rentals ever again, they were absolutely horrendous and tried to leave us stranded on the side of 40/85 during a blizzard. We’d prolly still be out there if I didn’t just drive it on the rim to the next exit and use our personal AAA.

WHEN IN DOUBT, change those tires.

6baluts · August 15

- Totally agree with @FanOfFanboys.
- Back in 2000 we bought our first motorhome a Monaco Diplomat. It came from the factory with 6 Goodyear G159 tires. You can google the history of those tires and how Goodyear and the Motorhome industry screwed the pooch on that. My tires come to find out were manufactured 14 months before the motorhome was built in Wakarusa. In 2002 on I66 here in VA approaching Front Royal VA I had a right front (steer) tire blow up doing 56.8 mph according to my TPMS and GPS. Happened right after passing a ANG convoy or for sure there would have been multiple casualties or death. I remember the big bang, the steering wheel being jerked out of my hand and amazingly the decorative lug nut covers shooting off like chaff too include one lug nut cover that somehow blew out in from of the Windshield and I seen it coming back at me and ducked. The damage to the motorhome was just shy of 15K (insurance paid). If it had taken out either of the two airbags in that wheel well, I am pretty sure my outcome would not have been as good. I kept the speed up initially and slowed down gradually and got off to the right side of the road before I ever applied the brakes. At about 5mph I touched the brakes the first time and damn if the steering wheel did not jerk out of my hand again shoot to the right. I guess Front Royal was having some type of fair and put up a sign on a wooden post that clipped the damn mirror adding insult to injury.
- After that experience I got very familiar with tire codes, what tires belong on what vehicles etc.
- Come to find out Goodyear/Monaco/Fleetwood/American had a silent recall on the tires and never informed the 40K plus owners of these tires on their motorhomes. These tires were never intended to be used in a motorhome application. They were designed for regional delivery vehicles.
- Interesting tidbit I picked up from Goodyear during the replacement is that when buying tires you can specify born on/manufacture date of tires when you order them. Many of the new tires you buy can be up to already a year old before they are installed on your ride. End of last year I bought a new 2024 Ford F150 Powerboost and a 2024 Lincoln Nautilus. The Nautilus tires were 2 months old when I took delivery. The F150's tires were 11 months old and I pushed the dealer for $400 voucher towards new tires when needed and they agreed to it.
- On our next two motorhomes I stuck with tires that were specifically made for RV's had to replace a set of eight tires on each. Replaced with Goodyear and Michelin and never had another issue, At a campground I used to snowbird in Miami my neighbor had a Newell $$$$$ and he had 8 china bombs on his rig and was blowing tires left and right but never a steer tire, This guy was lucky.
- Concerning specifying born on dates I have had success ordering tires this way at two of my local tire shops and with Simple Tire (internet) through militaryidme. So it can be done if you find someone who wants to play ball with you.

Botch · August 16

Really good info, @6baluts; thanks!

MaskedMarvel · August 16

Lesse if I can get this to post - I just found the pic of the f150 tire that blew on the highway…

GrateEggspectations · August 16

MaskedMarvel said:

Lesse if I can get this to post - I just found the pic of the f150 tire that blew on the highway…

That is a blowout that stuck the landing.

A friend was just telling me that their son had to wait five hours for a tow truck in record-breaking heat after a blowout.

fishlessman · August 16

MaskedMarvel said:

Lesse if I can get this to post - I just found the pic of the f150 tire that blew on the highway…

That looks worse than a blowout on an old retread

alaskanassasin · August 16

My dump trailer needs 4 new tires. I am seriously considering sending that in group text to everyone who borrows it.

BeanHead · August 17

Make it happen. Howdy freeloading friends- Your miles = tire needs…

zaphod · August 17

and don't forget the spare for those car/trailers which are inflated. sucks to have a flat only to discover you have two.

alaskanassasin · August 17

zaphod said:

and don't forget the spare for those car/trailers which are inflated. sucks to have a flat only to discover you have two.

I had a detonated spare leaning against my barn, one buddy who borrowed the dump trailer took that spare to work, sandblasted, and painted the rim, and put a brand new tire on it. He will be omitted from the group text lol.

OT: expiration dates - not on food but car tires! : OT

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