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JohnInCarolina · May 26

The AI stuff is proving to be a real challenge for educators.

My view (backed up by years of teaching) is that students spending quality time on take-home homework sets is the best way for them to learn and master concepts. Right now, even for challenging engineering problem sets, the bots can provide answers. So… what do we do? Most faculty are still assigning homework but they make it worth very little in terms of the percentage of the course grade. Then they assess through quizzes and tests. It’s not a great way to do things, but I’ve yet to see a viable alternative.

JohnInCarolina · May 26

Some of these are pretty funny:

https://techytwist.com/ai-generated-images-show-how-americans-are-perceived-by-europeans-is/49/

JohnInCarolina · May 27

Buckwoody Egger · May 27

the AI elaborate then AI condense is a funny comic. electricity and computing power are unlimited and free though, right? kidding

GrateEggspectations · May 31

Have friends whose son goes to a great school in the U.S. He brags about writing all his papers by asking ChatGPT to spit them out, then he just manually transcribes each and phrase into his own words. I can’t imagine spending boatloads of money just to have my child rob themselves of an education.

Off soapbox.

JohnInCarolina · May 31

GrateEggspectations said:

Have friends whose son goes to a great school in the U.S. He brags about writing all his papers by asking ChatGPT to spit them out, then he just manually transcribes each and phrase into his own words. I can’t imagine spending boatloads of money just to have my child rob themselves of an education.

Off soapbox.

It is requiring a constant effort these days to mitigate the effects of students using these tools.

fishlessman · June 1

JohnInCarolina said:

GrateEggspectations said:

Have friends whose son goes to a great school in the U.S. He brags about writing all his papers by asking ChatGPT to spit them out, then he just manually transcribes each and phrase into his own words. I can’t imagine spending boatloads of money just to have my child rob themselves of an education.

Off soapbox.

It is requiring a constant effort these days to mitigate the effects of students using these tools.

There was a time when calculators were robbing a proper education..don't be a ludite😁

JohnInCarolina · June 2

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

GrateEggspectations said:

Have friends whose son goes to a great school in the U.S. He brags about writing all his papers by asking ChatGPT to spit them out, then he just manually transcribes each and phrase into his own words. I can’t imagine spending boatloads of money just to have my child rob themselves of an education.

Off soapbox.

It is requiring a constant effort these days to mitigate the effects of students using these tools.

There was a time when calculators were robbing a proper education..don't be a ludite😁

I’ll make a deal with you: don’t tell me how to teach, and I won’t tell you how to run your shop.

And it’s Luddite - two Ds for you!

Botch · June 2

fishlessman said:
There was a time when calculators were robbing a proper education..don't be a ludite😁

I wouldn't jump on that one too much. I'm old enough to have used pencil-n-paper, and printed tables for logs and cosines and things, and feel that I had a better grasp on what math really does than the calculator/spreadsheet folks (I started using a slide rule in HS, iirc).
Case in point, I was TDY with several coworkers and we got the bill (tip wasn't added, this was a long time ago) and Colonel Whatsizname threw me the check and said, "You're the engineer here how much more is 15%??"
I looked at the bill, let's say $46.40. I moved the decimal over one, so 10% was $4.64. Add half of that, $2.32, to get to 15%, and I said, "$6.96". The Col looked stunned, and someone else had pulled out their inferior TI calculator and said, "Capt Botch is correct".
Throughout my career I often saw younger guys reporting answers that just weren't even in the ballpark at a magnitude level.
So, (tl;dr) learning math at the basic level, I think, IS worth doing, at least at the GS/HS level. FWIW.

Gulfcoastguy · June 2

After Katrina I had to design a 4 lane to 2 lane traffic merger in the field. I used my hand calculator and some graph paper. ( 2 lanes of a bridge got taken out by a boat). The old dog got some props that day. The young engineers were having PC withdrawal.

JohnInCarolina · June 2

Botch said:

fishlessman said:
There was a time when calculators were robbing a proper education..don't be a ludite😁

I wouldn't jump on that one too much. I'm old enough to have used pencil-n-paper, and printed tables for logs and cosines and things, and feel that I had a better grasp on what math really does than the calculator/spreadsheet folks (I started using a slide rule in HS, iirc).
Case in point, I was TDY with several coworkers and we got the bill (tip wasn't added, this was a long time ago) and Colonel Whatsizname threw me the check and said, "You're the engineer here how much more is 15%??"
I looked at the bill, let's say $46.40. I moved the decimal over one, so 10% was $4.64. Add half of that, $2.32, to get to 15%, and I said, "$6.96". The Col looked stunned, and someone else had pulled out their inferior TI calculator and said, "Capt Botch is correct".
Throughout my career I often saw younger guys reporting answers that just weren't even in the ballpark at a magnitude level.
So, (tl;dr) learning math at the basic level, I think, IS worth doing, at least at the GS/HS level. FWIW.

My version of this was to keep a running tally of my mother’s grocery bill as she walked around the store and put things in the cart. Being able to just add numbers like that in your head was something of a parlour (nod) trick in the first grade.

fishlessman · June 2

Botch said:

fishlessman said:
There was a time when calculators were robbing a proper education..don't be a ludite😁

I wouldn't jump on that one too much. I'm old enough to have used pencil-n-paper, and printed tables for logs and cosines and things, and feel that I had a better grasp on what math really does than the calculator/spreadsheet folks (I started using a slide rule in HS, iirc).
Case in point, I was TDY with several coworkers and we got the bill (tip wasn't added, this was a long time ago) and Colonel Whatsizname threw me the check and said, "You're the engineer here how much more is 15%??"
I looked at the bill, let's say $46.40. I moved the decimal over one, so 10% was $4.64. Add half of that, $2.32, to get to 15%, and I said, "$6.96". The Col looked stunned, and someone else had pulled out their inferior TI calculator and said, "Capt Botch is correct".
Throughout my career I often saw younger guys reporting answers that just weren't even in the ballpark at a magnitude level.
So, (tl;dr) learning math at the basic level, I think, IS worth doing, at least at the GS/HS level. FWIW.

Figuring a tip out like that is what the teachers call new math nowadays😁

DoubleEgger · June 2

Gulfcoastguy said:

After Katrina I had to design a 4 lane to 2 lane traffic merger in the field. I used my hand calculator and some graph paper. ( 2 lanes of a bridge got taken out by a boat). The old dog got some props that day. The young engineers were having PC withdrawal.

Should’ve called Kramer

Gulfcoastguy · June 2

DoubleEgger said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

After Katrina I had to design a 4 lane to 2 lane traffic merger in the field. I used my hand calculator and some graph paper. ( 2 lanes of a bridge got taken out by a boat). The old dog got some props that day. The young engineers were having PC withdrawal.

Should’ve called Kramer

I don't see him hauling dirt, rock, and asphalt for the median crossover though I admit re striping was part of the project. Come to think of it he might have been there. While construction was going on one lane was shut, Some over privileged soul ran down the crossed lane of the bridge and right into my bosses parked truck. Sadly he wasn't in it.

fishlessman · June 2

Gulfcoastguy said:

After Katrina I had to design a 4 lane to 2 lane traffic merger in the field. I used my hand calculator and some graph paper. ( 2 lanes of a bridge got taken out by a boat). The old dog got some props that day. The young engineers were having PC withdrawal.

Up here the state has been putting in multidirectional merging lanes on rural highways. What could go wrong following all the big painted arrows

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fishlessman · June 2

heres a 2 to 1 lane double merge relying on courteous boston drivers willing to take turns merging from the left, right, left, right while dealing with drunken maniacs going 30 miles faster than everyone else. to make things easier, near me they put a costco entrance in the middle of this nightmare to keep everyone on their toes while merging into an alternating merging zone. then they kept the old right lane merge sign

https://youtu.be/ZYGnQuIfrhg

Gulfcoastguy · June 2

Maybe I should have made clear that it was a divided 4 lane and that the median was a friggin big ditch. On Interstate 10 to be more specific. I did see FDNY drive through on the way to NOLA while I was doing this.

Legume · June 3

I miss natural disasters

Botch · June 3

fishlessman said:

https://youtu.be/ZYGnQuIfrhg

Good grief!

fishlessman · June 3

Botch said:

fishlessman said:

https://youtu.be/ZYGnQuIfrhg

Good grief!

its easier than it looks, while driving, concentrate on the arrows, dont watch the cars, and most importantly....dont use the blinkahs (turn signals). the new rotary style is even better, you drive 80 in a 55, because of your speed flashing truck tipping over signs activate, you hit the brakes hard and drive 15 mph around it, vehicles merge from the right or bypass it with an off ramp, the design makes it so you cant tell if they are entering the rotary or not, you hit the brakes and stop, everyone stops or crashes......

crosswalk buttons are now 8 feet out into the roadway unprotected, you stand out there waiting for the cross walk lights to turn on. this i cant explain. the snow plow guys must love those, you cant plow them out without stopping traffic and pulling the snow out across lanes.

lousubcap · June 10

Impressive way to rob a MLB home run right here:
The season's greatest MLB catch has been made by Athletics' rookie Denzel Clarke

Botch · June 12

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/chatgpt-lost-a-chess-game-to-an-atari-2600?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=whatsnewnow&zdee=gAAAAABkkLJ9sSQ5uhSe2d9b2S6Nnx7nLjZViW3_sftUIsxqGAAd70wLV55gvyYJq49YSMXauiuDJ0CkTlJy9AQunlAWY-vBPWzZMbZA9BnHCj2m1qGmxvI%3D&lctg=38990514547

lousubcap · June 14

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lousubcap · June 18

America's most stunning natural wonders

Karlina Valeiko

21 May 2025
Worth a look although photos are clearly enhanced the locations merit a visit if possible.

https://www.loveexploring.com/gallerylist/90563/americas-most-stunning-natural-wonders

Botch · June 18

lousubcap said:

America's most stunning natural wonders
Karlina Valeiko
21 May 2025
Worth a look although photos are clearly enhanced the locations merit a visit if possible.
https://www.loveexploring.com/gallerylist/90563/americas-most-stunning-natural-wonders

Bookmarked.
I'm a bit disappointed in myself, 5 years into retirement, having only visited about half those places. And I won't be traveling to Europe because they'll squirt me.

JohnInCarolina · June 25

lousubcap · June 26

And away we go!
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lousubcap · June 30

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dbCooper · July 1

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dbCooper · July 2

Redo . . .

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