OT-but timely-Standard vs Daylight Saving Time- where are you and comments!-OT

lousubcap · March 9

Opening with "where you stand is where you sit". I sit on the western edge of the Eastern Time zone. Today sunrise 7:03 AM and sunset 6:45 PM. Sunday all prior is plus one.
So, Which would be your preferred choice:
1. Shift the clocks as we do now?
2. Permanent Standard Time?
3. Permanent Daylight Time?
I have evolved to the permanent standard time supporter. The biggest driver is the impact on the early morning activities that impact kids and schools. At the Winter Solstice sunrise is now 7:56 AM. You can do the math.

And the font of all knowledge residing in DC experienced sunrise at 6:30 AM today.
Anyone care to chime in?

Buckwoody Egger · March 9

i think it would be very timely to offer the following: i have never done the math nor considered what the rotation of the earth offers my lat/long for sunlight duration. this does not prevent me from having strong opinions on it and making demands. i will also never reconcile my morning and evening opinions which may be in conflict. someone else is to blame for this of course.

Botch · March 9

I'm in the #2: Permanent Standard Time camp also.
Too many studies (and personal experience) have shown that switching twice a year hurts productivity, safety, and tempers/personalities.
And please, please don't go to "Permanent Daylight Time"!!! Go to Standard, and then adjust school/business/retail/athletic/church/whatever schedules to fit local preferences; otherwise we'll be one hour off from the rest of the World (save North Korea). just do the right thing up front, suck up the pain of adjusting activity hours up front, and then we'll be good. From then on.

DoubleEgger · March 9

I’m in agreement with you Frank about the kids at the bus stop. That’s #1 in my book.

JohnInCarolina · March 9

I’m OK with setting clocks back an hour. We should just keep doing that. Screw this “spring forward” sh!t. Why don’t we “fall back” and then “fall back some more” ?

Legume · March 9

Pick one, stick with it. It plays havoc with me at work, UK often changes on a different week, India and AZ don't shift, so they shift relative to me. It's two weeks of fixing meeting times and people not showing up at the right time.

JohnInCarolina · March 9

Legume said:

Pick one, stick with it. It plays havoc with me at work, UK often changes on a different week, India and AZ don't shift, so they shift relative to me. It's two weeks of fixing meeting times and people not showing up at the right time.

Doesn’t Outlook automatically adjust for the shifts?

Legume · March 9

JohnInCarolina said:

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Legume said:

Pick one, stick with it. It plays havoc with me at work, UK often changes on a different week, India and AZ don't shift, so they shift relative to me. It's two weeks of fixing meeting times and people not showing up at the right time.

Doesn’t Outlook automatically adjust for the shifts?

Always glitches for us and someone doesn't get the updated time.

Legume · March 9

The other issue is that the timezone differential between India and US is large enough that once a year making it an hour more makes it harder to find a reasonable time for both. And then explaining why they have to adjust to us when their clock didn't change.

Botch · March 9

Legume said:

The other issue is that the timezone differential between India and US is large enough that once a year making it an hour more makes it harder to find a reasonable time for both. And then explaining why they have to adjust to us when their clock didn't change.

We will all know when AI has finally "made it" when it simply puts up a screen throughout the US saying "F*** you jerks! Here's Standard Time for the whole world, you are now synced, deal with it!"

Legume · March 9

We should put tariffs on AI and any country that doesn’t sync with us

CTMike · March 9

I'm still in Hawaii, no DST here. 🤣🤣

Gulfcoastguy · March 9

I’m another standard time supporter. If you need to get up at the a$$crack of dawn, set your alarm and leave the rest of us alone.

MrCookingNurse06 · March 9

I feel silly and dumb trying to compute this after reading the others. I don’t think I can wrap my head around coming out of winter. Also been busy on call this weekend and was glad there’s one less hour of it.

The days will get longer with spring and summer which is what I’m excited about. Savings time or night, the timing of it has me excited for longer afternoons and warmer temps. I think that is what really has more an impact for me then the time on the clock. So I’m excited for daylight savings time, but before stopping to think, I’m actually excited to get out of winter and have more sunlight. For some reason this winter really hit me. I never stopped grilling. But I stopped running and being outside. Had some extra cold weeks and a few snows we don’t normally get.

Very excited for the seasonal change.

I live in the first town of the western side of the eastern time zone in TN

Corv · March 9

Since my motto is "Off by the crack of noon," I like it when the country adjusts closer to my own schedule. But I make up for it by going to bed early.

Battleborn · March 9

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stlcharcoal · March 10

Everybody's opinion seems to form where they fall in time zones. If either options are permanent, you may be more adversely affected by super early sunrises in the summer or late ones in the winter.

The further west you are in your timezone, the worse the winter's delayed sunrises would be on permanent DST. STL wouldn't have sunrise until 8:15am CDT which isn't that bad......but Indy would be 9:10am CDT and that sucks.

The other way around (staying on standard time), you would have the sun coming up here at 5am in the summers and out at the latest until 8pm. That means it gets hotter faster in the workday for those who work outside, and less sunlight for the summer night activities.

I prefer leaving it the way it is because we get the best of both worlds. But if I lived somewhere else, that could change. No one is going to agree, and there are already states and cities that don't participate in DST anyway......it gets really confusing in western Indiana.

DieselkW · March 10

Since everyone prefers an extra hour, and time keeping devices are easy to automate, I like this idea:

Stay on standard time all year.

Beginning every Sunday, increase the speed of clocks 9 minutes over 24 hours

On Monday to Friday, this will cost manufacturing only 3 minutes per 8 hour shift. Hardly noticeable.

On Saturday, every week, we will have 63 extra minutes to deal with. Spend your extra hour fishing, or sleeping, or playing with the kids.... whatever you want - you have an extra hour. Clocks will automatically, as they do now, adjust for "daylight savings week".

Every Week. At a cost of 3 minutes per shift.

poster · March 10

stlcharcoal said:

Everybody's opinion seems to form where they fall in time zones. If either options are permanent, you may be more adversely affected by super early sunrises in the summer or late ones in the winter.

The further west you are in your timezone, the worse the winter's delayed sunrises would be on permanent DST. STL wouldn't have sunrise until 8:15am CDT which isn't that bad......but Indy would be 9:10am CDT and that sucks.

The other way around (staying on standard time), you would have the sun coming up here at 5am in the summers and out at the latest until 8pm. That means it gets hotter faster in the workday for those who work outside, and less sunlight for the summer night activities.

I prefer leaving it the way it is because we get the best of both worlds. But if I lived somewhere else, that could change. No one is going to agree, and there are already states and cities that don't participate in DST anyway......it gets really confusing in western Indiana.

I agree, with DST in the summer here the sun still rises before 6:00. Having the sun up before 5:00 would be a waste of daylight. In winter the sun rises 8:45. Although 9:45 would with DST would suck, I would rather stay permanent DST.

Bellavista52 · March 10

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Mark_B_Good · March 10

3. When we fall back, we cut light at end of our day by 1h ... I don't like coming home to darkness. I'd rather live with it being a little darker in the morning ... who needs the sun at 6 am anyhow? LOL.

fishlessman · March 10

move it two hours forward and keep it there, i only see the sun in the winter during lunch at work. as for the kids, most are dropped off at school by mom or dad. havent seen a kid standing at the bus stop alone without an adult in years and this part of the eastern time zone its still dark when they are going to school for most of the winter. so bump it up another hour this fall.........

gonepostal · March 10

The older I get I find myself saying to just leave it alone. Pick something and stick with it. I'll adjust.

Wooderson · March 10

I'm on the western line of Eastern. We're way too far west to be in Eastern. 10 pm sunsets get old. I much rather have early sunrise. Only a government can try to change the sun.

SmokinJazz · March 10

I say pick one and stick with it, tired of changing the clocks around! I would have forgotten all about it this weekend if my wife didn’t tell me.

fishlessman · March 10

SmokinJazz said:

I say pick one and stick with it, tired of changing the clocks around! I would have forgotten all about it this weekend if my wife didn’t tell me.

The stove and coffee maker get changed weekly when the power goes out. The rest auto reset here but I agree. Move it up another hour and keep it year round😁

kl8ton · March 10

Let's split the difference and do a half hour. At the end of June it's still light here at 10:00 p.m.

Ike · March 13

It seems I have been living with this argument my whole life (76). I vote to rather than teach an old dog new tricks, pitch an old dog a bone...hear me DC??? Take care the business at hand.

DieselkW · March 13

As I type this, 06:22, I'm literally waiting for sunrise so I can go set up my egg for a pastrami cook today.

danhoo · March 14

I like light at the end of the day

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