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Expandable cast iron grate seasoning

BigGreenKev
BigGreenKev Posts: 275
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How would you guys recommend season the expandable grate in the link? I'm guessing it needs a spray of some sort since you cant geat in every crevice. What kind of spray?

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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    It says it is a porcelain coated cast iron grate. So that means it shouldn’t have to be seasoned…BUT even BGE learned that porcelain coated cast iron is crap! My advice is save your money and just buy a stainless steel grate.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    RRP said:
    It says it is a porcelain coated cast iron grate. So that means it shouldn’t have to be seasoned…BUT even BGE learned that porcelain coated cast iron is crap! My advice is save your money and just buy a stainless steel grate.
    What do you mean Ron? Weber uses porcelain coated grates and other accessories successfully and has done so for years. I would say that 15 years ago porcelain coated cooking grids were everywhere and they were always prone to delaminating, but they are way more durable and reliable these days. Haven’t seen an issue personally for way more than a decade. They are used in millions of pellet cookers. 

    Not sure about this particular product especially since I generally subscribe to the “you get what you pay for” mantra. Seems really inexpensive based upon my experience in the market. Just wanted to point out that Weber has absolutely rock solid porcelain coated grids they use in propane and pellet grills very successfully. They require no seasoning or maintenance and clean like a dream. 

    FWIW. 
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    edited June 2023
    pgprescott said:
    RRP said:
    It says it is a porcelain coated cast iron grate. So that means it shouldn’t have to be seasoned…BUT even BGE learned that porcelain coated cast iron is crap! My advice is save your money and just buy a stainless steel grate.
    What do you mean Ron? Weber uses porcelain coated grates and other accessories successfully and has done so for years. I would say that 15 years ago porcelain coated cooking grids were everywhere and they were always prone to delaminating, but they are way more durable and reliable these days. Haven’t seen an issue personally for way more than a decade. They are used in millions of pellet cookers. 

    Not sure about this particular product especially since I generally subscribe to the “you get what you pay for” mantra. Seems really inexpensive based upon my experience in the market. Just wanted to point out that Weber has absolutely rock solid porcelain coated grids they use in propane and pellet grills very successfully. They require no seasoning or maintenance and clean like a dream. 

    FWIW. 
    Excuse me, Pete, for expressing my opinion about PORCELAIN coated CAST IRON.

    As usual I am pissing you off with any of MY opinions, which quite lately I have been DAMN good at doing!

    With you being a BGE and WEBER and Blues Hog dealer and whatever other products you sell up there in Rockford, IL I understand AND accept why you defend the products you sell.






    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    RRP said:
    pgprescott said:
    RRP said:
    It says it is a porcelain coated cast iron grate. So that means it shouldn’t have to be seasoned…BUT even BGE learned that porcelain coated cast iron is crap! My advice is save your money and just buy a stainless steel grate.
    What do you mean Ron? Weber uses porcelain coated grates and other accessories successfully and has done so for years. I would say that 15 years ago porcelain coated cooking grids were everywhere and they were always prone to delaminating, but they are way more durable and reliable these days. Haven’t seen an issue personally for way more than a decade. They are used in millions of pellet cookers. 

    Not sure about this particular product especially since I generally subscribe to the “you get what you pay for” mantra. Seems really inexpensive based upon my experience in the market. Just wanted to point out that Weber has absolutely rock solid porcelain coated grids they use in propane and pellet grills very successfully. They require no seasoning or maintenance and clean like a dream. 

    FWIW. 
    Excuse me, Pete, for expressing my opinion about PORCELAIN coated CAST IRON.

    As usual I am pissing you off with any of MY opinions, which quite lately I have been DAMN good at doing!

    With you being a BGE and WEBER and Blues Hog dealer and whatever other products you sell up there in Rockford, IL I understand AND accept why you defend the products you sell.






    Not about that at all Ron. As before, you’re  just flat wrong about this and you do it with absolute certainty that you’re right. Then you get all pissy if someone corrects the record. I especially like the all caps and exclamation points. Just stop with the drama. 

    I also thought the comments about someone else’s kid in another thread to be way overly judgmental and in poor taste. I didn’t comment there but I see someone else did.

    For the record Ron, you can express your opinion and so can I. If it makes you pissy when contradicted, then maybe some self restraint is needed for your own mental well being. You’re the pissed off one and it’s not a good look. Pretty thin skinned. Be well.  
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  • GoldenQ
    GoldenQ Posts: 590
    I agree wit RON on most coated cast iron products but I also agree that there are some good ones that cost a lot of money but I wonder about webber products since most of their products are not nearly as good as they used to be. The only webber I would buy right now is a webber Q or the charcoal lighter


    I XL  and 1 Weber Kettle  And 1 Weber Q220       Outside Alvin, TX-- South of Houston
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    GoldenQ said:
    I agree wit RON on most coated cast iron products but I also agree that there are some good ones that cost a lot of money but I wonder about webber products since most of their products are not nearly as good as they used to be. The only webber I would buy right now is a webber Q or the charcoal lighter


    Huh? The Weber Q has enamel coated cast iron grates and has for oh a decade! LOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 19,779
    I don’t get why a CI grid needs to be coated/ seasoned with anything, other than cooked on fat/grease.  Don’t think I’ve really heard of seasoning porcelain coated anything. But, there are many things I haven’t heard of. 

    Char-Broil used to sell a similar uncoated CI grid,  that was a somewhat popular mod for those cooking on a Weber Go Anywhere charcoal grill. Needed some trimming with an angle grinder IIRC. 

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    caliking said:
    I don’t get why a CI grid needs to be coated/ seasoned with anything, other than cooked on fat/grease.  Don’t think I’ve really heard of seasoning porcelain coated anything. But, there are many things I haven’t heard of. 

    Char-Broil used to sell a similar uncoated CI grid,  that was a somewhat popular mod for those cooking on a Weber Go Anywhere charcoal grill. Needed some trimming with an angle grinder IIRC. 
    It helps when you don't cook on it often enough, and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,555
    on an egg the seasoning will just burn off unless you keep the temps low. gave up on cast iron grids on the egg as they just bust apart, as ron said, go stainless. cast iron does work well on my propane weber, i think my weber maxes out at just 500 degrees if its not windy or cold outside
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    fishlessman said:
    on an egg the seasoning will just burn off unless you keep the temps low. gave up on cast iron grids on the egg as they just bust apart, as ron said, go stainless. cast iron does work well on my propane weber, i think my weber maxes out at just 500 degrees if its not windy or cold outside
    I just assumed it wasn’t for an egg since it’s rectangular. Who knows I guess. It’s a gasser accessory. 
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,555
    pgprescott said:
    fishlessman said:
    on an egg the seasoning will just burn off unless you keep the temps low. gave up on cast iron grids on the egg as they just bust apart, as ron said, go stainless. cast iron does work well on my propane weber, i think my weber maxes out at just 500 degrees if its not windy or cold outside
    I just assumed it wasn’t for an egg since it’s rectangular. Who knows I guess. It’s a gasser accessory. 

    i just made the assumption he was going to use it on an egg but the width even looks wrong at about a 7 inch usable width for a gasser. just buy the cast iron grids that fit the weber if thats were its going
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 19,779
    Legume said:
    caliking said:
    I don’t get why a CI grid needs to be coated/ seasoned with anything, other than cooked on fat/grease.  Don’t think I’ve really heard of seasoning porcelain coated anything. But, there are many things I haven’t heard of. 

    Char-Broil used to sell a similar uncoated CI grid,  that was a somewhat popular mod for those cooking on a Weber Go Anywhere charcoal grill. Needed some trimming with an angle grinder IIRC. 
    It helps when you don't cook on it often enough, and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
    bro, do you even egghead??

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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  • MaskedMarvel
    MaskedMarvel Posts: 3,417
    Is the thermal expansion rate (Damien technical term, do not Google) close enough between ceramic and steel to not perpetually crack and damage the ceramic? I always thought those coated grates didn’t work because the glaze just gets popped off when the metal heats up…
    Large BGE and Medium BGE
    36" Blackstone - Greensboro!


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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    I had porcelainized ci grates for years on a BBQ Galore Turbo gasser and never had an issue, they worked grate.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • BigGreenKev
    BigGreenKev Posts: 275
    Comments were all fun to read! Drinking and Amazon shopping didn't have me realize it was porcelain coated until this post. Will see how it shakes out at this point or if it gets trashed.
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  • GoldenQ
    GoldenQ Posts: 590
    PG PRESCOTT.    MY 220 and 120 both have uncoated cast iron grates.   If the new ones have changed I would not buy one 

    I XL  and 1 Weber Kettle  And 1 Weber Q220       Outside Alvin, TX-- South of Houston
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    GoldenQ said:
    PG PRESCOTT.    MY 220 and 120 both have uncoated cast iron grates.   If the new ones have changed I would not buy one 

    I’m unaware of them ever not being coated. Do yours rust? If not, I suspect they’re coated. They certainly are coated now and have been for years and years. 
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  • Buckwoody Egger
    Buckwoody Egger Posts: 1,469
    The cast iron grate on the Weber Q and whether it’s enameled or not goes way back. I had one from around 2008 or so and my memory of it was that it rusted occasionally and was more matte and coarse not shiny and smooth. So I assumed not enameled but grilled on through as it is a fantastic little grill. 

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051109150206/http://weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/q/gg_q.aspx

    https://tvwbb.com/threads/rust-oxidation-on-my-new-q200-grate-is-this-normal.5586/

    The reason I gave mine up was outdoor storage related.  The luxury of a charcoal grill like the egg is that it can be fully closed. Gas grills are a different deal and when not used much can become bees nests etc. couldn’t find a weather proof tub that fit both the storage area and the q. 
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Buckwoody Egger said:
    The cast iron grate on the Weber Q and whether it’s enameled or not goes way back. I had one from around 2008 or so and my memory of it was that it rusted occasionally and was more matte and coarse not shiny and smooth. So I assumed not enameled but grilled on through as it is a fantastic little grill. 

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051109150206/http://weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/q/gg_q.aspx

    https://tvwbb.com/threads/rust-oxidation-on-my-new-q200-grate-is-this-normal.5586/

    The reason I gave mine up was outdoor storage related.  The luxury of a charcoal grill like the egg is that it can be fully closed. Gas grills are a different deal and when not used much can become bees nests etc. couldn’t find a weather proof tub that fit both the storage area and the q. 
    Yeah, according to your top link from 2004, the year of their inception, it was in fact enameled cast iron. They have always used a matte finish on the porcelain enamel finish in lieu of the glossy finish one used to see in the way back times. This is still the case today. Sometimes it’s hard to tell without either knowing or close inspection. 


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  • GoldenQ
    GoldenQ Posts: 590
    After reading this all I can say is that mine are surely the roughest porcelain coated grates I have ever seen and have many sharp edges in between the grates.  Also, they will rust and act like and clean like old style cast iron.   Mine are not like the ones my wife's kids bought a few years later.
    I XL  and 1 Weber Kettle  And 1 Weber Q220       Outside Alvin, TX-- South of Houston
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  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 19,779
    Back in the day, Weber Spirit gas grills sold at HD came with uncoated CI grates. Don't know if the Q grills were the same, or even if its still the case. Same model Spirit grills at Lowes, or other places came with coated grills. Weird. 

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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  • buzd504
    buzd504 Posts: 3,877
    MaskedMarvel said:
    Is the thermal expansion rate (Damien technical term, do not Google) close enough between ceramic and steel to not perpetually crack and damage the ceramic? I always thought those coated grates didn’t work because the glaze just gets popped off when the metal heats up…

    It's 1.4 vs 7 picotherms/inch.  So take that FWIW.
    NOLA
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    GoldenQ said:
    After reading this all I can say is that mine are surely the roughest porcelain coated grates I have ever seen and have many sharp edges in between the grates.  Also, they will rust and act like and clean like old style cast iron.   Mine are not like the ones my wife's kids bought a few years later.
    Huh, I thought you said you loved them? 😁😂
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  • GoldenQ
    GoldenQ Posts: 590
    PG PRESCOT.  I do love them but still can not believe they are coated.   I would not have the ones they sell today .   
    I XL  and 1 Weber Kettle  And 1 Weber Q220       Outside Alvin, TX-- South of Houston
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    GoldenQ said:
    PG PRESCOT.  I do love them but still can not believe they are coated.   I would not have the ones they sell today .   
    Why? Too nice? Too easy to clean? It’s Le Creuset vs lodge cast but for the same price. I don’t get it, but hey to each their own. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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  • GoldenQ
    GoldenQ Posts: 590
    Webber is not Le Creuset.       Not even close in quality
    I XL  and 1 Weber Kettle  And 1 Weber Q220       Outside Alvin, TX-- South of Houston
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    I agree Webber isn’t. 
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  • Tspud1
    Tspud1 Posts: 1,514
    never see any griddle plates with porcelain coatings, wonder why
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Tspud1 said:
    never see any griddle plates with porcelain coatings, wonder why
    Pit boss has one. 
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Tspud1 said:
    never see any griddle plates with porcelain coatings, wonder why
    Used to never see enamel cast cookware, or rarely. I assume there may still be limitations or perhaps cost benefit analysis in play, but these things do exist. The Weber stuff is quite durable as I’ve not once heard of an issue in over ten years. They also successfully coat their kettles and gassers for decades. Pit Barrels are enameled now and used to be high heat paint. Technology is improving as should be expected. You know of anyone who’s had issues with their Weber enameled products? Anyone? Anyone outta the hundreds of thousands sold? Anyone? Not saying that there’s anything wrong with carbon steel or regular cast iron per se, but to make a blanket statement that they wouldn’t buy one that’s enamel coated is ignorant. Especially when I’m pretty sure their own product they brag about was likely coated. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣
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