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Charcoal shortage looming?

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  • Posts: 4,716
    chard said:
    Getting 4 bags of Rockwood delivered to my house on 10/15 from my local Ace in MN, so it is coming.
    Did you order that a while ago and just get a shipping notification?  We shipped a truckload to the Wisconsin warehouse on Thursday which supplies MN.  Just trying to understand how it all works.
  • Posts: 67
    @stlcharcoal I ordered today and the first ship date or curbside pickup in Lakeville was 10/15.  
    Eggin' with a Large and Small
    Twin Cities, MN
  • Posts: 3,865
    edited October 2020
    I visited an ACE today and was told they have 20 bags of Rockwood scheduled to arrive on Wednesday. They also had a lot of Blues Hog and two varieties of FOGO, along with BGE, B&B and Cowboy. They have never had this many varieties in stock that I can recall. The guy was pushing the Blues Hog, but it was pretty clear he had no first-hand experience with the stuff.
    Stillwater, MN
  • Posts: 19,136
    And folks thought I was crazy when I had 700lbs+ of charcoal in my garage...


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  • caliking said:
    And folks thought I was crazy when I had 700lbs+ of charcoal in my garage...

    In everyone's defense, I think that was only one of the reasons.
    Stillwater, MN
  • Posts: 12,630
    caliking said:
    And folks thought I was crazy when I had 700lbs+ of charcoal in my garage...

    As crazy as me Ashish. I have not bought charcoal in over 4 yrs, still have 250+ lb. Pellet hoard stands at 600+ lb  :)
    canuckland
  • Posts: 3,181
    So back to original question; Is there an actual shortage, or is it just a boom in purchases, and the supply chain can’t keep up?
    I like my butt rubbed and my pork pulled.
    Member since 2009
  • Posts: 4,716
    edited October 2020
    500 said:
    So back to original question; Is there an actual shortage, or is it just a boom in purchases, and the supply chain can’t keep up?
    Depends on the syntax.  I guess you could call it a shortage, but there is not any less charcoal being manufactured than before.  There's just not enough that can be manufactured in the country to meet the increased demand.
  • What Is a Shortage? 

    A shortage, in economic terms, is a condition where the quantity demanded is greater than the quantity supplied at the market price.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    • A shortage, in economic terms, is a condition where the quantity demanded is greater than the quantity supplied at the market price.
    • There are three main causes of shortage—increase in demand, decrease in supply, and government intervention.
    • Shortage should not be confused with "scarcity."

      ;-)
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  • Posts: 15,172
    Depends on the syntax.  I guess you could call it a shortage, but there is not any less charcoal being manufactured than before.  There's just not enough that can be manufactured in the country to meet the increased demand.
    While trying for sure, you are on the right side of that issue. Hang tuff. 
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

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    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • Posts: 3,181
    So, we can theorize that once the "new to outdoor cooking pandemic users" have gone back to cooking inside, due to the cold weather approaching, and stop purchasing the supply, there'll be more for us "in it for the long haul frequent users". 
    I like my butt rubbed and my pork pulled.
    Member since 2009
  • Posts: 3,552
    Think of it like the great toilet paper debacle of 2020- the perceived shortage causes people to buy more than needed/normal because of the fear they will run out. 

    This surge in demand would normally result in increased production to fill the hole. However, in this case, the capacity is at 100% utilization.  We do “know” that the available domestic capacity has historically met the market needs. So there is either a lot of hoarding going on or there is a legitimate use increase (people stuck at home with available time, restaurants closed, etc). I suspect the truth is a blend of both of the above. 

    I would further wager that both of the above will eventually settle back to a more normal rhythm. As the fear of the “scarcity” in the market subsides, people return to work, and restaurants reopen then demand will normalize. 

    To add fuel to the fire (pun intended), when there is more demand than supply hold on to your wallets- prices will naturally rise. 

    My fear is if the spike is heavily weighted towards hoarding.  This doesn’t represent a real change on the amount consumed, just the inventory levels.  If there has been significant levels of hoarding, at the back end of this pandemic, there will be a significant cliff on demand. This kind of unnatural rhythm will stress many of the small businesses cash flow and put their future survival at risk.  Hopefully, they are saving the extra money they are making now to weather the potential storm. 

    But opinions are like...

    Greensboro, NC
  • Posts: 15,582
    More reports about charcoal spontaneously combusting in attics might help.  Unintentionally of course.
  • Posts: 15,582
    I have two bags.  I had more when I drunk double-ordered, I’ll find more when I open my last bag.
  • Posts: 4,716
    The hoarding was real in March/April......now it's just demand.

    Restaurants use natural gas and propane--very few use charcoal because of the cost, logistics, etc.  Home cooks' charcoal consumption is more proportional with natural gas and propane.

    Everybody is stuck at home, it was summer, no big surprise charcoal use went way up.  It will slow over the winter, but until people start eating out again, it's still gonna be more than what we can supply.

    They were freaking out in the aluminum industry because they were scared of running out of cans.  People were not in bars using glasses with draft beer, plus alcohol consumption went up anyway. 
  • Posts: 3,181
    edited October 2020
    Stock at my local Home Depot this morning. 

    I like my butt rubbed and my pork pulled.
    Member since 2009
  • Posts: 34,722
    Last night I fired up the Basques Sugar Maple lump (from Quebec) I bought last week.  It has been years since I used it.  The aroma (sweetness) is unique and extremely pleasant.  Burns clean, a bit more sparking on light-off than Rockwood, "normal sized" lump although I have not emptied the initial bag. Reasonable price point when sourced thru a US distributor. I would be good if this was the only lump I could find.  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • Posts: 4,232
    Kamado Joe lump was a lesser of two evils lately. It was garbage. Next time I'll go with good old briquettes if need be. 
    New Albany, Ohio 

  • Posts: 422
    I was at my local Home Despot and their Royal Oak section is empty as usual. 

    I've been living off the Lazzari at my local grocery store which seems a reliable source for me lately.
  • I’m surprised no one here seems to make their own.  It’s easy, cheap as the wood you burn for it, takes no more time than smoking a piece of meat, and less attention.  

    I make mine in a 6 gallon metal trash can with a lid, as I don’t think the wife would go for a burn barrel sized kiln. 

    Just got done with a batch this afternoon.

    ill post a DIY later.
  • Posts: 26,192
    I’m surprised no one here seems to make their own.  It’s easy, cheap as the wood you burn for it, takes no more time than smoking a piece of meat, and less attention.  

    I make mine in a 6 gallon metal trash can with a lid, as I don’t think the wife would go for a burn barrel sized kiln. 

    Just got done with a batch this afternoon.

    ill post a DIY later.
    I’m surprised no one here seems to make their own.  It’s easy, cheap as the wood you burn for it, takes no more time than smoking a piece of meat, and less attention.  

    I make mine in a 6 gallon metal trash can with a lid, as I don’t think the wife would go for a burn barrel sized kiln. 

    Just got done with a batch this afternoon.

    ill post a DIY later.
    I like your idea. BUT I have to ask for many of us - just how close are your nearest neighbors? AND how many pounds of lump do you get from those 6 gallon galvanized trash cans before they rust out and you need to replace them? Cheap wood is one thing, but those cans have to be figured in to the per pound cost of your "free" lump. BTW I'm NOT being nasty! OK?
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time!
  • Posts: 12,630
    @UplandEgger welcome to the forum. Looking forward to your DIY post.
    canuckland
  • RRP said:
    I’m surprised no one here seems to make their own.  It’s easy, cheap as the wood you burn for it, takes no more time than smoking a piece of meat, and less attention.  

    I make mine in a 6 gallon metal trash can with a lid, as I don’t think the wife would go for a burn barrel sized kiln. 

    Just got done with a batch this afternoon.

    ill post a DIY later.
    I like your idea. BUT I have to ask for many of us - just how close are your nearest neighbors? AND how many pounds of lump do you get from those 6 gallon galvanized trash cans before they rust out and you need to replace them? Cheap wood is one thing, but those cans have to be figured in to the per pound cost of your "free" lump. BTW I'm NOT being nasty! OK?
    I didn’t take it as being nasty.  To answer your question, I live in a suburban neighborhood on a lot that’s less than 1/2 an acre.  Smoke is no different than a backyard bonfire.  The can I use costs $15 at Home Depot, $10 less than the last Fogo bag I bought.  The 6 gallon size was chosen because my wife would certainly have a problem with a 55 gallon burn barrel in the yard.  As to weight, I haven’t weighed it, but if you pack the can well, you get enough to fill a plastic 5 gallon bucket (seems roughly equivalent 

    I can get pieces as big or small or as consistent as I want.  A man with a chop/table saw could zip a branch into briquettes that would make Kingsford jealous.  

    Basically I pack the can tightly with wood, put the lid on as tightly as I can.  I have two holes drilled in the lid.  I set up a bonfire and put the can on it’s side over the fire.  Soon enough the steam turns to wood gasses and the gas burns off like a torch from the holes.  Keep the fire going and when the fire leaving the holes burns out, your probably about done.  
  • Posts: 1,158
    Got two bags of local Mesquite to add to my only bag of RW this week.  Next up go get more RW.


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