Sharpening Knives ???

Eggin_in_PA said:

Can anyone recommend a stone for maintaining the edge on a S90V blade?

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/DMT-8-Dia-Sharp-Diamond-Stone-P7.aspx

Eggin_in_PA said:

Can anyone recommend a stone for maintaining the edge on a S90V blade?

If you are considering diamond plates, Atoma definitely deserves your consideration. They are top tier plates. As much as I like DMT, I definitely prefer Atoma. Of course that is just one mans opinion. But they definitely seem to last longer in my experience. 

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@SGH

You must have bought the last one.

Brother Ozzie, for whatever reason the 2500 stays sold out. As quick as they show up in stock they are gone within a day or two. It took me 2 months to nab one. 

Broke out one of the Arkansas stones to play with today.  

SonVolt said:

Since we're on the topic... if I want to get my feet wet in the world of knife sharpening (mostly chef's knives) what's the best path for me? I'd rather stay away from electric knife sharpeners for now. Is there a specific brand/type of stone(s) I should start with? 

I bought this from amazon a couple weeks ago.  I've enjoyed it and it gets the job done.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B087QWRNLV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SGH said:

Eggin_in_PA said:

Can anyone recommend a stone for maintaining the edge on a S90V blade?

If you are considering diamond plates, Atoma definitely deserves your consideration. They are top tier plates. As much as I like DMT, I definitely prefer Atoma. Of course that is just one mans opinion. But they definitely seem to last longer in my experience. 

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Atoma-Diamond-Plate-P1067.aspx

I saw concerns of lift-off with some brands of stones.  I only have one blade that's S90V therefore either of these should suffice for how much I would use it.  It's amazing how much additional vanadium can change a blade.  I just dont want to end up with a glorified Habor Freight special.  Appreciate you chiming in..

Eggin_in_PA said:

SGH said:

Eggin_in_PA said:

Can anyone recommend a stone for maintaining the edge on a S90V blade?

If you are considering diamond plates, Atoma definitely deserves your consideration. They are top tier plates. As much as I like DMT, I definitely prefer Atoma. Of course that is just one mans opinion. But they definitely seem to last longer in my experience. 

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Atoma-Diamond-Plate-P1067.aspx

I saw concerns of lift-off with some brands of stones.  I only have one blade that's S90V therefore either of these should suffice for how much I would use it.  It's amazing how much additional vanadium can change a blade.  I just dont want to end up with a glorified Habor Freight special.  Appreciate you chiming in..

i have one japanese knife heavy with vanadium, the bevel on one side is flat ground 1.5 inch, the other side is full hollow ground. holds an edge forever but when it needs the slightest tune up its work, darn stuff is hard.  pretty sure i can sharpen all my knives at one time quicker than just that one

SGH said:

fishlessman said:

would have thought this would have cost more, i might buy a set

https://www.amazon.com/Arkansas-Combination-Sharpening-Whetstone-MFC-8-C/dp/B015AAEVZ4/ref=pd_lpo_201_t_2/143-8261071-8246155?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B015AAEVZ4&pd_rd_r=88af0da0-6dd0-4340-b192-94ab4ef49691&pd_rd_w=b6DQz&pd_rd_wg=zzNHL&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=HA9M7KQQRT92BE7MX5MY&psc=1&refRID=HA9M7KQQRT92BE7MX5MY

Brother fish, you are probably already aware of this. But for those that aren’t, when it comes to Arkansas stones “Dans” are top tier. They are milled square and lapped flat. When you buy a ultra fine black or a translucent stone from them you pay dearly for this service. However it is without question money well spent.  

In my humble opinion, the only Arkansas stones that was ever that consistent besides Dans was the Norton’s back in the 70’s when Norton still owned and operated novaculite mines. You can still buy Arkansas sharpening stones today sold under the name Norton. However if you dig into it they are cut from stones that was obtained from Norton. Not actually made by Norton. With that said, they are quality stones because the novaculite was purchased from Norton stock. However most of the time you have to square them and lap them.
With all that said, I highly recommend Dans to anyone interested in Arkansas stones. Just to reiterate why, they come square, true and lapped. They are ready to go right out of the box. 

And just a note for anyone interested. You can at times find Norton Arkansas stones on EBay for reasonable prices. They usually need a little cleaning and touching up. But the true Norton’s are without question worth the effort.  

had not known this, my  set was from the 70's though. came in the plastic box with the oil, smaller stones and i would assume norton.  i have this big stone that was probably cut in the 1800's thats got a good belly worn out of it, should be flattened out but its got 50 years of memories on it.  farm house yard sale item, was looking at pocket knives when i was maybe 6, farmer says you like any of them, i says im looking for a sharpening stone. he goes into the barn and comes out with one. 15 cents, i got my monies worth. ill get a pic of it, its on the camp fridge. had one of those 30 inch diameter stones that i found in the woods, made a stand and foot lever spinner for it but someone walked away with it years ago

@SonVolt
I usually do not make any kind of a recommendation on anything without having a good bit of information pertaining to use and end goal. But with that said, a very cheap route to “test the waters” would be either a King 1000/6000 or a Norton India combination. Both can be had for around 20 bucks. And both are really good stones for the money. Actually they are great for the money. 

Botch said:

SGH said:

@SonVolt
The King is a water stone. The Norton is a oil stone. 

This was a key bit of info that I'd been missing so far.  Thanks Scottie.  

Just a side note. Any stone that is an oil stone (Arkansas stones included) can be used with water if you so choose. Just never add oil and then try to use water. Use only water from the beginning and all is well. Very few oil stones come from the factory prefilled with oil anymore. Years ago when the Nortons was American made they did come prefilled. Now that they are hencho en Mexico they are not prefilled with oil.

SGH said:

@SonVolt
I usually do not make any kind of a recommendation on anything without having a good bit of information pertaining to use and end goal. But with that said, a very cheap route to “test the waters” would be either a King 1000/6000 or a Norton India combination. Both can be had for around 20 bucks. And both are really good stones for the money. Actually they are great for the money. 

Keep in mind neither of these stones will be ideal for beveling, reprofiling or producing a mirror finish. However they both excel at sharpening and maintaining an established edge. The King is a water stone. The Norton is a oil stone. 

They are certainly excellent stones to test the waters without breaking the bank. Once you play around with these stones and learn the basics, the sky is the limit as to what you can progress to. 

On a separate note, I am going to answer a question here that I get asked quiet often. What is the absolute best stones out there? Money aside, one would be hard pressed to do any better than Naniwa Chosera and Shapton Glass. There is a handful of other names you can throw in there as well. But I have no experience with them. With that said, in no way do I recommend these for the casual sharpener. And for clarity, anyone that Googles Naniwa, please include Chosera or Professional in the title. Naniwa makes some stones that is a big step down from the Chosera line. 

Hope this helps a little. 

Thank you! I actually have 2 King stones in my Amazon cart right now. The owner of KAN knives also recommended King as a good starter stone. I'm mainly just wanting to sharpen knives in my kitchen -  chef's knives and pairing knives etc. 

fishlessman said:

SonVolt said:

SGH said:

@SonVolt
I usually do not make any kind of a recommendation on anything without having a good bit of information pertaining to use and end goal. But with that said, a very cheap route to “test the waters” would be either a King 1000/6000 or a Norton India combination. Both can be had for around 20 bucks. And both are really good stones for the money. Actually they are great for the money. 

Keep in mind neither of these stones will be ideal for beveling, reprofiling or producing a mirror finish. However they both excel at sharpening and maintaining an established edge. The King is a water stone. The Norton is a oil stone. 

They are certainly excellent stones to test the waters without breaking the bank. Once you play around with these stones and learn the basics, the sky is the limit as to what you can progress to. 

On a separate note, I am going to answer a question here that I get asked quiet often. What is the absolute best stones out there? Money aside, one would be hard pressed to do any better than Naniwa Chosera and Shapton Glass. There is a handful of other names you can throw in there as well. But I have no experience with them. With that said, in no way do I recommend these for the casual sharpener. And for clarity, anyone that Googles Naniwa, please include Chosera or Professional in the title. Naniwa makes some stones that is a big step down from the Chosera line. 

Hope this helps a little. 

Thank you! I actually have 2 King stones in my Amazon cart right now. The owner of KAN knives also recommended King as a good starter stone. I'm mainly just wanting to sharpen knives in my kitchen -  chef's knives and pairing knives etc. 

i would practice with a few pocket and or beater knives first just to learn how to keep the knife bevel uniform from the back up thru the curve to the tip. you need to learn how to lift the blade up as you go thru the curve transition

Yeah, good point. I was planning on practicing on my cheap old Victorinox Forschner knives first. I won't be touching my good knives anytime soon. 

SonVolt said:

What do you guys think about these style of knife sharpeners vs the flat wet stones?

https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tri-Angle-Sharpmaker-Sharpener-204MF/dp/B000Q9C4AE#customerReviews

The Spyderco SM does a phenomenal job of touching up an edge that is in decent shape. Where it falls short is on blades that need to be reprofiled or rebevelved. Short of that it does an outstanding job.