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Anyone see BGE steel firebowl aka their version of Kickash basket

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  • loco_engr
    loco_engr Posts: 5,818
    have wonder what the warranty might be
    aka marysvilleksegghead
    Lrg 2008
    mini 2009

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    I said to my wife, 'Where do you want to go for our anniversary?' She said, 'I want to go somewhere I've never been before.' I said, 'Try the kitchen.'
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  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 11,605
    Wonder what’s next?......

    Greentisserie?
    Greenbot?
    Big Green Coolers?

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 
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  • drumdudeguy
    drumdudeguy Posts: 165
    edited January 2020
    I bought one and love it. Didn't care for KAB.
    Hilton Head, SC- XL Big Green Egg w/Modular Nest
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  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    drumdudeguy said:
    I bought one and love it. Didn't care for KAB.
    @drumdudeguy, how does it function better/different?

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

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  • cookingdude555
    cookingdude555 Posts: 3,196
    I think it looks cool and I like the holes lining up with those in the firebox. If I didn’t have KABs for my other eggs I would definitely consider it. 
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  • JethroBodeen
    JethroBodeen Posts: 526
    Doesnt seem to me it would be any better than the stock grate. Not to mention is another product ripoff by BGE.
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  • drumdudeguy
    drumdudeguy Posts: 165
    Foghorn said:
    drumdudeguy said:
    I bought one and love it. Didn't care for KAB.
    @drumdudeguy, how does it function better/different?

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Hilton Head, SC- XL Big Green Egg w/Modular Nest
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  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    drumdudeguy said:
    Foghorn said:
    drumdudeguy said:
    I bought one and love it. Didn't care for KAB.
    @drumdudeguy, how does it function better/different?

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Makes sense. Thanks. 

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    This product is different enough to not seem like a direct rip off, unlike their multi-level grate systems. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • rekameohs
    rekameohs Posts: 264
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    Raleigh, NC
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  • obdog
    obdog Posts: 7
    I am so disappointed- loved this idea for my XL.  I used it once for a 400 degree cook and the bottom warped so the divider no longer fits.  I heard one other guy on another site with similar issues.  So bummed out it looked good but the metal apparently is too thin for XL.  Since i really wanted the divider issue I am hoping they will take it back.
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  • dstearn
    dstearn Posts: 1,705
    I like mine and I started with the KAB on my XL. I have used it on all temp settings and have not had any issues with it warping. I can easily set up a 2 zone cook with the divider and it wastes less charcoal than the KAB.
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  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    rekameohs said:
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    I had that same thought, but for me, the KAB lets a lot of charcoal through during the cook as it burns down to a size to fall through it. And then some more when I remove it. It's not a big deal as I scrape the ash out anyway. It's a little more annoying when some thin but reusable pieces fall into my ash bucket when I'm shaking the ash out.

    That said, I've really like the airflow of the KAB, so these are fairly minor complaints. Especially compared with the warping of this new product that others are reporting. 
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,759
    carrda04 said:
    rekameohs said:
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    I had that same thought, but for me, the KAB lets a lot of charcoal through during the cook as it burns down to a size to fall through it. And then some more when I remove it. It's not a big deal as I scrape the ash out anyway. It's a little more annoying when some thin but reusable pieces fall into my ash bucket when I'm shaking the ash out.

    That said, I've really like the airflow of the KAB, so these are fairly minor complaints. Especially compared with the warping of this new product that others are reporting. 
    Anything that falls into the ash during a hot and fast is going to burn anyway.....not like any any BTU's are lost.  Not sure why everybody gets so worried about it.

    Love the new Kick Ash Can.  No more scraping!!
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    stlcharcoal said:
    carrda04 said:
    rekameohs said:
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    I had that same thought, but for me, the KAB lets a lot of charcoal through during the cook as it burns down to a size to fall through it. And then some more when I remove it. It's not a big deal as I scrape the ash out anyway. It's a little more annoying when some thin but reusable pieces fall into my ash bucket when I'm shaking the ash out.

    That said, I've really like the airflow of the KAB, so these are fairly minor complaints. Especially compared with the warping of this new product that others are reporting. 
    Anything that falls into the ash during a hot and fast is going to burn anyway.....not like any any BTU's are lost.  Not sure why everybody gets so worried about it.

    Love the new Kick Ash Can.  No more scraping!!

    Does the kick ash can block air flow at all? From the pics it looks like it forms a tight seal instead of sitting on the bottom like I thought. I'm interested in the can for ease of cleanup, but almost $70 for a thin metal mixing bowl is going to take some convincing.  ;)
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    Oh never mind, I didn't realize it had a cut-out for the air flow. Now I'm interested. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,759
    SonVolt said:
    stlcharcoal said:
    carrda04 said:
    rekameohs said:
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    I had that same thought, but for me, the KAB lets a lot of charcoal through during the cook as it burns down to a size to fall through it. And then some more when I remove it. It's not a big deal as I scrape the ash out anyway. It's a little more annoying when some thin but reusable pieces fall into my ash bucket when I'm shaking the ash out.

    That said, I've really like the airflow of the KAB, so these are fairly minor complaints. Especially compared with the warping of this new product that others are reporting. 
    Anything that falls into the ash during a hot and fast is going to burn anyway.....not like any any BTU's are lost.  Not sure why everybody gets so worried about it.

    Love the new Kick Ash Can.  No more scraping!!

    Does the kick ash can block air flow at all? From the pics it looks like it forms a tight seal instead of sitting on the bottom like I thought. I'm interested in the can for ease of cleanup, but almost $70 for a thin metal mixing bowl is going to take some convincing.  ;)
    It doesn't block anything.  The hole cut in the side is the same size as the lower firebox opening.

    It's not a "thin metal mixing bowl" either.  It's a much heavy gauge.
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  • rifrench
    rifrench Posts: 469
    My rusty KABs are resting in the deck box, I went back to the OEM grates.  I can get the heat I need quickly, and temp seems to be more easily controlled over long cooks.  Just my experience...
     1 LBGE, 1 SBGE, 1 KBQ and a 26" Blackstone near Blackstone, Virginia
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  • EGoldstein
    EGoldstein Posts: 34
    I got the KAB can for my large recently and love it.  Made very well and great fit.
    Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,759
    rifrench said:
    My rusty KABs are resting in the deck box, I went back to the OEM grates.  I can get the heat I need quickly, and temp seems to be more easily controlled over long cooks.  Just my experience...
    The third generation are stainless steel, but I have the older steel ones like yours......they have some rust on them, but it's not like I'm grilling on them.  They have worked just fine for the last 4 yrs.  

    Also, the temp control really has nothing to do with a fire grate or basket, that's all the draft door and chimney cap.  All the "sewer plate" fire grate does is limit the high end temp--it doesn't help control, stabilize, or do anything other than hold the charcoal above the ash pan.  The set amount of air comes in, passes through it, just like the KAB, our old cross hatched grate, or any other grate.

    A lot of people say the basket uses more charcoal, not true either.....not possible unless you're running a higher temp.  
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  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    stlcharcoal said:
    carrda04 said:
    rekameohs said:
    drumdudeguy said:

    KAB let too many small pieces of charcoal fall through. Defeats the purpose if I have to shake the basket AND scrape the ashes out. Also wasted a lot of good charcoal. With the BGE version I no longer have to scrape, and it DOES increase airflow by creating space between the charcoal and the fire box.
    Not sure I understand how you don't need to scrape the ashes out.   If the ash is not falling through to the bottom of the grill, doesn't it clog up the bowl and block air flow on a long cook?   Doesn't some of it fall out anyway when you take the bowl out?

    Scraping out the ashes is not a big deal for me.  I have a (clean) 99-cent cat litter box shovel that I use to catch things as I scrape out the bottom of the grill.  The ash falls into the bucket below and the bigger pieces just go back into the basket.



    I had that same thought, but for me, the KAB lets a lot of charcoal through during the cook as it burns down to a size to fall through it. And then some more when I remove it. It's not a big deal as I scrape the ash out anyway. It's a little more annoying when some thin but reusable pieces fall into my ash bucket when I'm shaking the ash out.

    That said, I've really like the airflow of the KAB, so these are fairly minor complaints. Especially compared with the warping of this new product that others are reporting. 
    Anything that falls into the ash during a hot and fast is going to burn anyway.....not like any any BTU's are lost.  Not sure why everybody gets so worried about it.

    Love the new Kick Ash Can.  No more scraping!!
    Kick Ash Can has been strategically suggested to my wife for father's day. Fingers crossed! Once I can lift and dump I probably won't care at all!
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
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