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ryantt
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This actually isnât a bad article and is worth a read.
https://www.bbqqueens.com/best-lump-charcoal/
https://www.bbqqueens.com/best-lump-charcoal/
XL BGE, KJ classic, Joe Jr, UDS x2
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I find it odd that foreign sourced wood is ranked higher than the only U.S. sourced brand. I can't imagine the countries listed as sources such as Ukraine have any kind of rules for controlling chemical or source that equals U.S. laws/rules.
The rest was pretty interesting though. -
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Interesting that products reviewed in a comparison did not mention or even factor cost into the equation of their ranking systems. But it appears that is not the goal of this comparison, and thats fair I guess. I still buy cheaper lump when it is on sale. I have bought the more expensive ones and the higher priced products did not alter the end result for me, other than having less money.
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Before I read it I would have said Rockwood has to be near the top.Loweâs locally brought in the Kamado Joe big block, for OEM vs the BGE charcoal itâs much better
it so large though itâs not really usable in the Minimax -
That whole sight seems rather click-baity to make money from Amazon affiliate links.
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BugFreak72 said:I find it odd that foreign sourced wood is ranked higher than the only U.S. sourced brand. I can't imagine the countries listed as sources such as Ukraine have any kind of rules for controlling chemical or source that equals U.S. laws/rules.
The rest was pretty interesting though.Funny that they rank the Ukrainian source lump higher than Rockwood when they list as a "Con" for the Ukrainian product:"Dust and chips make up almost 50% of each bag"âReality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.â â Philip K. Diçk -
I just thought the article itself was interesting, I do not agree with their rankings. I was recently sent a box/bag of Fogo super premium lump by Fogo to try. I have no doubt that it is an excellent product, but Iâll stick with @stlcharcoalXL BGE, KJ classic, Joe Jr, UDS x2
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I stopped scrolling when I saw the Devil. This is 100% a shill written piece. Those folks canât even spell ethical.
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I have never experienced Rockwood as being hard to light. It is an interesting article...until the rankings.
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speed51133 said:BBQQueens.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.
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SmokeyLopey said:I have never experienced Rockwood as being hard to light. It is an interesting article...until the rankings.
I have multiple times. My solution, put another strikeafire in the pile of lump. Being hard to light to me isn't a big deal. I'm not trying to light wet charcoal in a rain storm. If I had one of those looflighter things it would probably be even easier. I'll take it being harder to light to get the benefit of a long, clean burn of the charcoal.Rockwall, Tx LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.
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Another article written by an interwebz freelancer who doesn't really know the product they are talking about. The listed pros are essentially whatever is claimed on the bag by the manufacturer (burns longer, lights faster, etc). And how did they figure out that bigger lumps produce less ash?? I stopped reading after that.
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You hit it right there......HeavyG said:That whole sight seems rather click-baity to make money from Amazon affiliate links.
There have been about a dozen of these "reviews" for us pop up over the last few month. All they do is take top selling Amazon listings, take tidbits from the listing and customer reviews, then rank them......bet you any money they never tried any of them.
This is the only one I've seen this far that only picked the 1-bag. All the others linked to the 3-bag box listing. Since they get a referral percentage, they almost always link the most expensive option.
Look up reviews for dash cams, tools, or just about anything else and these "review" pages will pop up with affiliate links. It's all BS.
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@stlcharcoal someone is using your bag in an iPhone game.
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WTF???? What game is that? I don't have an iPhone, but I have an iPad for my drone I might be able to download it on.ryantt said:@stlcharcoal someone is using your bag in an iPhone game.
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@stlcharcoal itâs called bid wars. Seriously that is your bag and it made me angry when I found it.XL BGE, KJ classic, Joe Jr, UDS x2
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The other thing that has popped up lately is folks on other forums and on YouTube doing their own tests on a bunch of different brands. I try to stay out of it because I don't want to seem like I'm influencing the results, but some of the tests and measures they are doing are not anything that can actually be used to gauge good or bad charcoal......or they have it backwards.
For instance.....bulk density. The heaviest charcoal in a set volume is NOT good--it's bad. Water is heavier than carbon. Heavy/dense "charcoal" is WOOD, not charcoal. They faulted us for being the lightest in the box. Firewood would have been the heaviest, so is that better?
Or another tester lit a bunch or brands in chimney starters and to see how long they burned. He briefly mentioned how ours got up to temp fast and was hot, but then faulted us when it had the shortest burn time. Of course it did.....because it was ripping hot in 5-10 minutes when the other ones were still burning through the water and VOCs. Firewood chunks would have lasted longer than any of them in that test. Is that better?
The true measure is carbonization and/or BTU per #. The higher the cabornization, the lower the ash and moisture content, thus the higher the BTU/#. Carbon is about 14500 and "charcoal" should be at minimum 75-80% carbonization.....hopefully closer to 80-85%. Without sending LOTS of samples to a lab you'll never know, but the EASIEST test you can do at home all day.......break it apart. If you can't break it apart by hand, it's not charcoal.
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Don't sweat it......we've had competitors rip off a lot worse from us. We've sent out many cease and desists to other charcoal companies, and even had to sue one of them. They all love to steal our pictures, marketing materials, and even our corporate name in one case. Several have used pictures of our charcoal on to market theirs. One lifted picture of our bag, pulled the logo off, then overlaid their logo on the same bag (they couldn't even take a picture of their own bag!!!!!) Then all the ones that have cut and pasted our FAQ's onto their site......one was so stupid they left all of our info in it.ryantt said:@stlcharcoal itâs called bid wars. Seriously that is your bag and it made me angry when I found it. -
I hate people who take shortcuts. Youâve worked hard to build a brand and loyal customer base (Chef Norah Grace being one of them). I donât know how some of these people sleep at night. I was always taught hustle over handouts, do the work and push hard for the results.stlcharcoal said:Don't sweat it......we've had competitors rip off a lot worse from us. We've sent out many cease and desists to other charcoal companies, and even had to sue one of them. They all love to steal our pictures, marketing materials, and even our corporate name in one case. Several have used pictures of our charcoal on to market theirs. One lifted picture of our bag, pulled the logo off, then overlaid their logo on the same bag (they couldn't even take a picture of their own bag!!!!!) Then all the ones that have cut and pasted our FAQ's onto their site......one was so stupid they left all of our info in it.XL BGE, KJ classic, Joe Jr, UDS x2 -
It can't be all that bad for advertising. Especially if the game is family friendly.stlcharcoal said:Don't sweat it......we've had competitors rip off a lot worse from us. We've sent out many cease and desists to other charcoal companies, and even had to sue one of them. They all love to steal our pictures, marketing materials, and even our corporate name in one case. Several have used pictures of our charcoal on to market theirs. One lifted picture of our bag, pulled the logo off, then overlaid their logo on the same bag (they couldn't even take a picture of their own bag!!!!!) Then all the ones that have cut and pasted our FAQ's onto their site......one was so stupid they left all of our info in it.
Some of those logo games you can play has to be a fantastic business tool. Especially if you can ingrain the product into a person's brain and they have to come up with the name of the product.
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Rockwood hands down
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In the words, eventually, of the immortal Chris Farley, âYou can get a good look at a T-Bone by sticking you head up a bullâs a**, but Iâd rather take the butcherâs word for it.âstlcharcoal said:The other thing that has popped up lately is folks on other forums and on YouTube doing their own tests on a bunch of different brands. I try to stay out of it because I don't want to seem like I'm influencing the results, but some of the tests and measures they are doing are not anything that can actually be used to gauge good or bad charcoal......or they have it backwards.
For instance.....bulk density. The heaviest charcoal in a set volume is NOT good--it's bad. Water is heavier than carbon. Heavy/dense "charcoal" is WOOD, not charcoal. They faulted us for being the lightest in the box. Firewood would have been the heaviest, so is that better?
Or another tester lit a bunch or brands in chimney starters and to see how long they burned. He briefly mentioned how ours got up to temp fast and was hot, but then faulted us when it had the shortest burn time. Of course it did.....because it was ripping hot in 5-10 minutes when the other ones were still burning through the water and VOCs. Firewood chunks would have lasted longer than any of them in that test. Is that better?
The true measure is carbonization and/or BTU per #. The higher the cabornization, the lower the ash and moisture content, thus the higher the BTU/#. Carbon is about 14500 and "charcoal" should be at minimum 75-80% carbonization.....hopefully closer to 80-85%. Without sending LOTS of samples to a lab you'll never know, but the EASIEST test you can do at home all day.......break it apart. If you can't break it apart by hand, it's not charcoal.
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An interesting point! I've noticed that Rockwood (which I've only had access to for a couple years), and BGE brand, seem lighter for the bulk, although I've never measured it.stlcharcoal said:...For instance.....bulk density. The heaviest charcoal in a set volume is NOT good--it's bad. Water is heavier than carbon. Heavy/dense "charcoal" is WOOD, not charcoal. They faulted us for being the lightest in the box. Firewood would have been the heaviest, so is that better?
Another thing I've noticed, especially with RW, is that it has a distinctive metallic "tink" when the pieces hit each other, pouring out of the bag. That might be a good Doctoral thesis....___________If serving is beneath you, leading is beyond you.
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thank you for sharing
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Well, well tried to tell the good folks on this site several times about the Devil being #1. Axe breaker is just hard to beat. Not only is the Devil taking over the charcoal he seems to be taking over ALL things in life. Well, I go back under by troll bridge, talk at you all later.
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Nobody is in the mood for you morons^^^South of Columbus, Ohio.
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When I bought my Egg, I used Royal Oak from Home depot for a while. Then I started using Fogo based on some reviews of it being really good and having big pieces, which I figured were better for the XL Egg. I couldn't try Rockwood because of the Republica Socialista de California's stupid Prop 65. The nanny state believes everything causes cancer. Anyway, once Jonathan made the necessary packaging changes, I ordered some and liked it. A lot! Now it is all I use, and can get it at my local Ace, which is a Gold dealer and gives treats to my furry friend.
I use a Rutland lighter square cut in half and the fire is going pretty quickly. I have not seen any downside to not having as many big lumps as the Fogo. Now just waiting for another sale at Ace!XL BGE in San Jose, CA. Also a Pit Barrel Cooker, a Cal Flame P4 gasser, and lots of toys including the first ever Flame Boss 300 in the wild. And a new Flame Boss 500. -
That article was written by 3 year olds.
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