Under the paver for 18 years...

sabretooth04 · June 2019

Folks wanted to see what my wood looked like under the paver since the egg was sitting right on top of it. So here it is after 18 years.

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Here is my fan helper...

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pgprescott · June 2019

sabretooth04 said:

Folks wanted to see what my wood looked like under the paver since the egg was sitting right on top of it. So here it is after 18 years.

Here is my fan helper...

You do realize you are extremely fortunate the table didn’t ignite? It would not be smart to repeat this install and expect the same results. My neighbor, an engineer, knew better and his burned in a few years. It was “devastating “ and easily could have been worse. Just takes the right timing and a breeze. Good luck!

Spaightlabs · June 2019

Good way to get a new house as long as everyone gets out ok.

Ask me how I know...

stlcharcoal · June 2019

You are lucky that thing didn't light off.

bgebrent · June 2019

Scary.

CTMike · June 2019

Google pyrolysis.

This is why most of us around here repeatedly recommend a table nest or some other type of air gap.

KiterTodd · June 2019

Yup, you need an air gap despite what anyone tells you here.

I bought a relatively new BGE and table from a guy that was lightly used. He had a well ventilated egg sitting on top of a thick piece of granite, which was on top of thick marine grade PVC I think. Anyway, it had the normal round melt/heat pattern shown by many people and a big crack down the middle of it.

Buy the table nest (below), feet, or any small hard objects you can put underneath the egg.

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DoubleEgger · June 2019

KiterTodd said:

Yup, you need an air gap despite what anyone tells you here.
I bought a relatively new BGE and table from a guy that was lightly used. He had a well ventilated egg sitting on top of a thick piece of granite, which was on top of thick marine grade PVC I think. Anyway, it had the normal round melt/heat pattern shown by many people and a big crack down the middle of it.

Buy the table nest (below), feet, or any small hard objects you can put underneath the egg.

If seeing your own table charred didn’t spur an air gap purchase, I don’t think any of our comments and suggestions will. Unfortunately.

fishlessman · June 2019

for the high cost of 75 cents you can put 3 quarters between the stone and egg. thats all you really need. i know....its almost a whole dollar

NorthPilot06 · June 2019

@fishlessman better than no air gap, but I might recommend slightly more than a 1.75mm gap

KiterTodd · June 2019

fishlessman said:

for the high cost of 75 cents you can put 3 quarters between the stone and egg. thats all you really need. i know....its almost a whole dollar

Exactly!

When I got the table mentioned above, I just used some washers I had on hand while waiting for the table nest to arrive. I actually struggled with just staying with the washers or going to the nest. I think you are right that any air gap would have been fine. That table nest puts the egg juuuuuuust a little bit higher that it's hard for my kids to peak in the grill to check on hot dogs and burgers.

DoubleEgger said:

If seeing your own table charred didn’t spur an air gap purchase, I don’t think any of our comments and suggestions will. Unfortunately.

You're preaching to the choir! Soon as I received that table/egg combo I took care of that situation.

pgprescott · June 2019

KiterTodd said:

fishlessman said:

for the high cost of 75 cents you can put 3 quarters between the stone and egg. thats all you really need. i know....its almost a whole dollar

Exactly!
When I got the table mentioned above, I just used some washers I had on hand while waiting for the table nest to arrive. I actually struggled with just staying with the washers or going to the nest. I think you are right that any air gap would have been fine. That table nest puts the egg juuuuuuust a little bit higher that it's hard for my kids to peak in the grill to check on hot dogs and burgers.

DoubleEgger said:

If seeing your own table charred didn’t spur an air gap purchase, I don’t think any of our comments and suggestions will. Unfortunately.

You're preaching to the choir! Soon as I received that table/egg combo I took care of that situation.

Its no accident that the table nest provides a wider air gap than the old feet. FYI

EagleIII · June 2019

Dang, that was close to being a big problem!

sabretooth04 · June 2019

OK. New larger paver and now raised.

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billt01 · June 2019

fishlessman said:

for the high cost of 75 cents you can put 3 quarters between the stone and egg. thats all you really need. i know....its almost a whole dollar

are nickels not a better choice?

and you save 60 cents

fishlessman · June 2019

someday there could be money in nickels

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Hoster05 · June 2019

sabretooth04 said:

OK. New larger paver and now raised.

where did you get the green tabs that raise the egg up?

sabretooth04 · June 2019

They came with the egg 18 years ago. But you can buy them on Amazon too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q8F9GMC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

KiterTodd · June 2019

pgprescott said:

Its no accident that the table nest provides a wider air gap than the old feet. FYI

Good to know!

pileit1971 · June 2019

So question for the resident experts.... coming up on the final stages of my outdoor kitchen...

Shelf for the egg is built out of metal heavy guage metal studs...

Going to have an XL sitting on a table nest on top of slab of granite underneath sitting on the metal studs... I also was planning on getting piece of granite tile to sit inside the table nest, on top of the granite slab for additional protection heat protection...

Now question I have, do you think I should have a piece of cement/USB Durarock underneath the granite?

Thanks!

pgprescott · June 2019

pileit1971 said:

So question for the resident experts.... coming up on the final stages of my outdoor kitchen...

Shelf for the egg is built out of metal heavy guage metal studs...

Going to have an XL sitting on a table nest on top of slab of granite underneath sitting on the metal studs... I also was planning on getting piece of granite tile to sit inside the table nest, on top of the granite slab for additional protection heat protection...

Now question I have, do you think I should have a piece of cement/USB Durarock underneath the granite?

Thanks!

More than for heat the durarock will tie the framing together and disperse the load better than just the stone sitting on the heavy gauge framing. Doesn’t sound like you are building with combustible materials.

pileit1971 · June 2019

Definitely nothing 'combustible' in the area...

Here is pic of the shelf, it has support on all 4 sides, and the granite company said I do not need to put durarock on top of the counter top either, so thinking it will be more then enough support for the granite on the shelf...

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And this second pic is the a piece of the framing/studs. Not sure what gauge it is, but it is much stronger/better then the metal studs you can get at the big box stores...

Oh and there will be durarock on the back side with another vent, just have not put it on yet...

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Kent8621 · June 2019

pileit1971 said:

Definitely nothing 'combustible' in the area...
Here is pic of the shelf, it has support on all 4 sides, and the granite company said I do not need to put durarock on top of the counter top either, so thinking it will be more then enough support for the granite on the shelf...

And this second pic is the a piece of the framing/studs. Not sure what gauge it is, but it is much stronger/better then the metal studs you can get at the big box stores...

Oh and there will be durarock on the back side with another vent, just have not put it on yet...

no need for the extra granite tile IMO, the table nest should will give you the heat drop your looking for and the tile will just take away from your overall look. I would skip the extra piece if it was me

pileit1971 · June 2019

Kent8621 said:

pileit1971 said:

Definitely nothing 'combustible' in the area...
Here is pic of the shelf, it has support on all 4 sides, and the granite company said I do not need to put durarock on top of the counter top either, so thinking it will be more then enough support for the granite on the shelf...

And this second pic is the a piece of the framing/studs. Not sure what gauge it is, but it is much stronger/better then the metal studs you can get at the big box stores...

Oh and there will be durarock on the back side with another vent, just have not put it on yet...

no need for the extra granite tile IMO, the table nest should will give you the heat drop your looking for and the tile will just take away from your overall look. I would skip the extra piece if it was me

okay, thanks, you are probably right... just thinking it would barely be seen, and would rather have a heat shield that costs $15 crack before the $300 piece of granite...

milesvdustin · June 2019

The table nest will keep you from getting the crack on the big piece

theyolksonyou · June 2019

@Mattman3969 is your local granite expert

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