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MiniMax requires baking at much lower temperatures?

Maulas
Maulas Posts: 14
edited October 2018 in Baking
I am trying to understand my MiniMax baking temperatures  :s

I have the following setup:
- ConvEGGtor or platesetter legs up
- Stainless steels grid
- Pizza stone on SS grid preheated 30 minutes

Baking bread at 225 C (437 F) or pizza 300 C (572 F), the pizza stone became way too hot. Pizza bottom burned in 3 minutes and bread after 10 minutes (15 minutes was perfect at this temp in Large). In my Large this is not a problem at all. Only thing I can think of is that in the MM the distance from the lump charcoal is much closer to the platesetter and the stone. This is in my opinion why the stone is heating up much quicker and becoming much hotter than in my large. Question is how to prevent the stone from becoming too hot. Higher in the dome is not really an option with such a small dome. Only thing I can think of is cooking 50 degrees celsius (90 F) lower than in my Large. This would mean baking bread at 175 C (347 F) in stead of 225 C (437 F) and pizza at 250 C (482 F) in stead of 300 C (572 F). I want to try this next time but wonder about your experience with the MM.


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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,166
    A lot of folks buy a setup from Ceramic Grill Store in increase the air gap. 
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
    edited October 2018
    Flip your ConvEGGtor legs down. Add a couple spacers to give you a 3/4"-1" rise and then your pizza stone. Most anything from aluminum foil balls to brass plumbing elbows will work.
    Let us know how this works and it will cost you nothing to try.
    Also, don't use to large of a pizza stone or your ConvEggtor will not properly divert the heat around your pizza stone.

    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
    As @DoubleEgger said above, a Woo from Ceramic Grill Store works great in the MM.
    https://ceramicgrillstore.com/collections/big-green-egg-minimax-small-accessories-by-ceramic-grill-store/products/150-mini-max-woo-bge
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,457
    edited October 2018
    I totally agree with you.  I used a buddy's MM to cook cornbread and burnt the bottom. I used the BGE feet as a spacer between ceramics and my CI  I don't even do that on my mini after I figured it out. 

    My conclusion (just like on the mini) is the food is too close to the fire. Buy a woo or find a way to increase the distance between flame and food because radiant heat from the PS is killing the bottom of your pizza even with spacers.   

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  • Maulas
    Maulas Posts: 14
    Photo Egg said:
    Flip your ConvEGGtor legs down. Add a couple spacers to give you a 3/4"-1" rise and then your pizza stone. Most anything from aluminum foil balls to brass plumbing elbows will work.
    Let us know how this works and it will cost you nothing to try.
    Also, don't use to large of a pizza stone or your ConvEggtor will not properly divert the heat around your pizza stone.

    Will try this setup, thanks!
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  • Maulas
    Maulas Posts: 14
    edited October 2018
    Mattman3969 said:
    I totally agree with you.  I used a buddy's MM to cook cornbread and burnt the bottom. I used the BGE feet as a spacer between ceramics and my CI  I don't even do that on my mini after I figured it out. 

    My conclusion (just like on the mini) is the food is too close to the fire. Buy a woo or find a way to increase the distance between flame and food because radiant heat from the PS is killing the bottom of your pizza even with spacers.   
    @m@Mattman3969: Did you try cooking at lower temp (about 90 F)?
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  • Maulas
    Maulas Posts: 14
    Maulas said:
    Photo Egg said:
    Flip your ConvEGGtor legs down. Add a couple spacers to give you a 3/4"-1" rise and then your pizza stone. Most anything from aluminum foil balls to brass plumbing elbows will work.
    Let us know how this works and it will cost you nothing to try.
    Also, don't use to large of a pizza stone or your ConvEggtor will not properly divert the heat around your pizza stone.

    Tried your setup in MiniMax this evening and this turned out great.
    ConvEGGtor legs down (on outer ring and not on openings to create additional 0.3 inch distance), covered in foil, three balls of foil (1 inch) and pizza stone on top. Temperature was 527F and did 7 to 8 minutes per pizza with golden brown on top and bottom not burned but nice and crispy. I guess the increased distance (leggs down + outer ring + alu balls) and maybe also the aluminium foil on the convEGGtor makes the difference. For best result, I had to rotate the pizza a quarter every 2 minutes. Thanks!   
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    Just made a apple/cherry 🍎🍒 crisp. I own the CGS WOO setup with stone & it's awesome!  However, on this I went PS legs down but, placed the legs atop the ring and not in the depressions to get some lift and then my SS pieces for a generous gap between the PS and my CI.  Temps were 350-375 (normal).







    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • NorthPilot06
    NorthPilot06 Posts: 1,179
    NPHuskerFL said:
    Just made a apple/cherry 🍎🍒 crisp. I own the CGS WOO setup with stone & it's awesome!  However, on this I went PS legs down but, placed the legs atop the ring and not in the depressions to get some lift and then my SS pieces for a generous gap between the PS and my CI.  Temps were 350-375 (normal).







    Wow, if that doesn’t make you hungry, I don’t know what will.  Nice cook!
    DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More...
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    @NorthPilot06 Thank You 🙏
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
    Maulas said:
    Maulas said:
    Photo Egg said:
    Flip your ConvEGGtor legs down. Add a couple spacers to give you a 3/4"-1" rise and then your pizza stone. Most anything from aluminum foil balls to brass plumbing elbows will work.
    Let us know how this works and it will cost you nothing to try.
    Also, don't use to large of a pizza stone or your ConvEggtor will not properly divert the heat around your pizza stone.

    Tried your setup in MiniMax this evening and this turned out great.
    ConvEGGtor legs down (on outer ring and not on openings to create additional 0.3 inch distance), covered in foil, three balls of foil (1 inch) and pizza stone on top. Temperature was 527F and did 7 to 8 minutes per pizza with golden brown on top and bottom not burned but nice and crispy. I guess the increased distance (leggs down + outer ring + alu balls) and maybe also the aluminium foil on the convEGGtor makes the difference. For best result, I had to rotate the pizza a quarter every 2 minutes. Thanks!   
    Sounds like you got it dialed in now.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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