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Clean Burn - Lid Stuck/w Rutland?
XL Egg Owner Since Dec 2013 - Louisiana
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I think we may have just found our Friday Night Thread....
Rockwall, Tx LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.
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I was hoping the one about smash burgers would be the friday thread
i think it got buffaloed2 LBGE, Blackstone 36, Jumbo Joe
Egging in Southern Illinois (Marion)
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Not sure it was the rutland, my vote goes to the permatex. I dont wrap the therm anymore. I did a few times because I thought it was pretty awesome, but I believe you can clean all the crud you need from the egg going about 700 dome temp for 2 hours. I think the lump runs out at that point anyway.
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It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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@RRP, maybe this guy is Wes Johnson.....
Rockwall, Tx LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.
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UltraCopper max 700°
https://www.permatex.com/products/gasketing/ultra-series-gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker/
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
TEXASBGE2018 said:@RRP, maybe this guy is Wes Johnson.....Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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My only guess would be the Permatex....just didn't know if this had ever happened to anyone before.
XL Egg Owner Since Dec 2013 - Louisiana
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RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.
XL Egg Owner Since Dec 2013 - Louisiana
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How was the 1200º determined? Its hard to estimate high temps without a measuring device. Once you take a thermometer out of range its really not very useful.Southeast Florida - LBGE
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jtcBoynton said:How was the 1200º determined? Its hard to estimate high temps without a measuring device. Once you take a thermometer out of range its really not very useful.
Agree, it was a rough guess based on dome thermometer. I got caught up with supper and forgot to take it out for clean burn. It wrapped around to 300-400 so that was a rough guess.XL Egg Owner Since Dec 2013 - Louisiana
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corey24 said:RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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jtcBoynton said:How was the 1200º determined? Its hard to estimate high temps without a measuring device. Once you take a thermometer out of range its really not very useful.
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Important to note that the scale on the Tel-Tru high temp is not linear.Southeast Florida - LBGE
In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’ Dare to think for yourself. -
A clean burn is a waste. Scrub the inside with a ball of foil or a brush. Smelting iron is better accomplished on other apparatus.Michiana, South of the border.
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RRP said:TEXASBGE2018 said:@RRP, maybe this guy is Wes Johnson.....XLBGE, LBGE, MBGE, SMALL, MINI, 2 Kubs, Fire Magic Gasser
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RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.-----------------------------------------analyze adapt overcome2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
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Mattman3969 said:
Well Rutland corporate technical folks told me that many years ago, but let me find it somewhere and I will post the link.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time. -
What difference does it make? What are you cooking that needs 2200°??!!! My Rutland as been on my egg since 2009. I have baked pizzas at 900°. It's just as good as it was when I installed it. Ron's has been on his egg for several years longer than mine!
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.
I will be keeping my clean burns at 600 from now on. It's also easier on the firebox ceramics.
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Just a quick look on the Rutland website says this:“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk
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Thanks @HeavyG for not calling me liar! But I still contend I was told 2,200 degrees by Rutland years ago. Just the same I plan to call Rutland technical support tomorrow and I will hence forth change my pat answer of 2,200 degrees to whatever they say. I will even try to receive an email.
Meanwhile I just Googled "melting point of fiberglass" and the answer is 2,075 degrees so I wonder if the Rutland link you posted refers to the heat tolerance of any or all of their adhesives and not the gasket material itself.
I think it is important to remember that only the tiny amount of the gasket is inside the BGE subject to the direct heat. And besides that I question if a BGE is even capable of reaching 2,075 degrees.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time. -
This is from a Rutland product catalog and the 1000°F pertains to the gasket material:From the same catalog, the info for the gasket cement they recommend which is rated for 2000°F:Makes sense that the adhesive would be rated for a higher temp than the gasket.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk
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Teefus said:A clean burn is a waste. Scrub the inside with a ball of foil or a brush. Smelting iron is better accomplished on other apparatus.#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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kaybee said:RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.
I will be keeping my clean burns at 600 from now on. It's also easier on the firebox ceramics.-----------------------------------------analyze adapt overcome2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky. -
Mattman3969 said:kaybee said:RRP said:It is probable that some Permatex that oozed out on top of your Rutland during your application became pliable causing the sticking. And when you say the gasket seems hard and crusty then that confirms my suspicion as the Rutland withstands 2,200º so a simple 1,200º at gasket level didn't cause it to be hard and crusty.
I will be keeping my clean burns at 600 from now on. It's also easier on the firebox ceramics.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time. -
“Never” have had a issue with mine with your suggested install. Thanks RRP!Plumbers local 130 chicago. Why do today what you can do tomorrow
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