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I Thought Rockwood was Supposed to be Neutral???
Myth...BUSTED! If you want neutral, use your oven.
However, the meatloaf, collards (Instant Pot) and my first cornbread (oven) in about 5 years were outstanding! Finally found baking powder with zero sodium! Baking soda too! So I can again make scratch cornbread or biscuits! Now if I could just find lo sodium ham! hahaha
Tonight, a rerun but with added fresh Instant Pot pinto beans! EXCELLENT!!!
If anyone knows how to keep meatloaf from crumbling, I'd love to know. 2 lb of meat, 1 cup of bread crumbs and 2 large eggs. Came off the egg in 4 pieces, impossible to slice!
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
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Well I guess if you compare it to your electric oven it would have a smokey flavor.
But then again likely why we all use a charcoal grill and not gas.
The better measure would be what did you think compared to your normal charcoal RO?
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Heavy cream and oh **** no you didn’t.
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I remember someone on here had a really cool meatloaf wire mesh basket. What was the fat content of the beef? I’m guessing lit may have “lit” on the right answer- needed more moisture?Greensboro, NC
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Wolfpack said:Well I guess if you compare it to your electric oven it would have a smokey flavor.
But then again likely why we all use a charcoal grill and not gas.
The better measure would be what did you think compared to your normal charcoal RO?I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Nothing that burns is 100% neutral. It is neutral compared to other lumps.
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Wolfpack said:I remember someone on here had a really cool meatloaf wire mesh basket. What was the fat content of the beef? I’m guessing lit may have “lit” on the right answer- needed more moisture?
Fat content was 80/20.I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
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GrillSgt said:It is neutral compared to other lumps.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Hyperbole, it’s the internet.
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Legume said:Hyperbole, it’s the internet.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
I find that almost everything has a more smokey taste when reheated as leftovers for some reason.
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Carolina Q said:Legume said:Hyperbole, it’s the internet.
I actually meant all of it. You’re on a mission to disprove something some people are enthusiastic about. Just take it all with a big grain of sal...ugh, never mind. Just divide everything on here by 10 and that’s about right. -
GaBGE said:I find that almost everything has a more smokey taste when reheated as leftovers for some reason.“There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
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Legume said:Carolina Q said:Legume said:Hyperbole, it’s the internet.
I actually meant all of it. You’re on a mission to disprove something some people are enthusiastic about. Just take it all with a big grain of sal...ugh, never mind. Just divide everything on here by 10 and that’s about right.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Hans61 said:GaBGE said:I find that almost everything has a more smokey taste when reheated as leftovers for some reason.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Yikes. Didn’t mean to pee in the Cheerios.
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I can’t help it if you have pedestrian taste buds.
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GrillSgt said:I can’t help it if you have pedestrian taste buds.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Pediatric taste buds has a better ring, and is more appropriate.
Hey, some sit at their work desk, looking out the window, faced with the difficult decision of what wood they're going to pair with their Rockwood and ribs for the upcoming weekend. Lol
Choose wisely.
It really does matter.BrandonQuad Cities
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@Carolina Q I can’t figure out why your getting so much hate!!! Honestly I like Rockwood and find it to be a better product than royal oak or others I’ve tried. At no point did I read anything that stated it was a bad product or that you were calling it subpar. You like every other individual who participates on this site you have the right to your own opinion. People need to lighten up and stop the bs. Why would your feeling it isn’t as smoke neutral as I do have any bearing on my view of the product..... it doesn’t.
i like @stlcharcoal product and he’s a heck of a nice guy. Which I think most everyone would agree with.XL BGE, KJ classic, Joe Jr, UDS x2 -
@ryantt, Just stating my opinion. It's okay lump. No more, no less. And IMO, it's not neutral. Can you imagine the reaction if I said something negative about CGS stuff? Or Thermoworks?
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
I think "more neutral" is probably a better description going forward.Stillwater, MN
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The breadcrumbs make it crumble.Charlotte NC - Large Big Green Egg (2009) w/Nest and Handler
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Just stating your opinion?
Myth
Busted
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God's gift
Succumbed to the perfect lump myth
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In my experience, leftovers always impart smokier flavour than freshly-cooked grub - even when I use fairly smoke-neutral lump, like Maple Leaf or Basque Sugar Maple.
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GrillSgt said:Just stating your opinion?
Myth
Busted
Fanboy
God's gift
Succumbed to the perfect lump myth
Ohhhhhkkkkaaaayyyy
Never mind.GrateEggspectations said:In my experience, leftovers always impart smokier flavour than freshly-cooked grub - even when I use fairly smoke-neutral lump, like Maple Leaf or Basque Sugar Maple.
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
I think that you're right in a rather strict, limited sense: No, you can't cook with ANY charcoal and have it taste like it was cooked indoors in the oven. If that's what you want for the definition of "neutral," then you're right.
But I think when people talk about Rockwood being "neutral: they mean something less black-or-white and more relative. In my own experience, there is a very noticeable difference between the BGE lump that I used exclusively for many years and the Rockwood that I've been using for the last year or so. BGE lump was noticeably smokier tasting than Rockwood. (AND there's drastically less bad white smoke on lighting.) So no, RW is not "neutral" in that it doesn't taste like it was broiled or cooked in an oven indoors, but it's relatively much more neutral than BGE/RO.
And I've never had meatloaf crumble. I'd have to compare recipes to see if there is a big difference compared to your recipe. I've done it a few different ways, too. I've cooked it part way in a loaf pan and then carefully taken it out of the pan and onto a grid, and I've also formed it in a loaf pan and left it overnight in the fridge to get set in that shape, and then taken it out and just put it uncooked on the grid. I really think making the loaf and refrigerating it overnight (wrapped in plastic wrap in a loaf pan) did help it keep its shape when I put it on the Egg and smoked it. Both ways it turned out fine, and didn't crumble.
FWIW, here's a recipe for "Ain't Momma's Meat Loaf" from the Smoke & Spice book that I've Egged a number of times -- you can see whether you think the proportions are any different (you saute the veggies first):1 tablespoon olive oil1/2 cup onion, minced1/2 Sweet Pepper (Green or Red), chopped fine3 Garlic Cloves1 teaspoon fresh ground Black Pepper1 teaspoon Kosher salt1/2 teaspoon Ground Cumin1-1/4 lb. Ground Beef3/4 lbs. Ground Pork1-1/2 cups dry Bread Crumbs or panko3 tablespoons Sour Cream2 tablespoons Worcestershire Sauce1 Egg1/4 cup Beef Stock1 teaspoon TabascoDizzy Pig Cow LickYour Favorite Barbecue Sauce -
Carolina Q said:Legume said:Carolina Q said:Legume said:Hyperbole, it’s the internet.
I actually meant all of it. You’re on a mission to disprove something some people are enthusiastic about. Just take it all with a big grain of sal...ugh, never mind. Just divide everything on here by 10 and that’s about right.
It's perfect.
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Opinions are like a-holes. Most people have one
Re: the meatloaf not staying together - one of the things I learned in the course of our hog rearing venture, is that when making sausage, you have to knead the ground meat until its tacky to the touch. Releases myosin or something. A golf-ball size wad of meat should stick to your palm and not fall off.
So maybe knead the mix more before putting the formed loaf on the egg?#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
caliking said:Opinions are like a-holes. Most people have one
Re: the meatloaf not staying together - one of the things I learned in the course of our hog rearing venture, is that when making sausage, you have to knead the ground meat until its tacky to the touch. Releases myosin or something. A golf-ball size wad of meat should stick to your palm and not fall off.
So maybe knead the mix more before putting the formed loaf on the egg?They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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