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COWBOY - Natural Wood or Natural Construction Debris?

Haven't tried the Cowboy brand lump before, so when I saw 18-lb. bags in Lowe's today for $15.99 I thought I would try a bag. Why not right? A little carbonized trim leftover from a jobsite never hurt anybody. I wonder if the trim is hickory or oak?

Anyways, I'm well aware of @nakedwhiz review of this stuff, but his bag was made in Mexico (not that there's anything wrong with that). I just thought that with this bag being made in USA maybe it would be better.

BGE XL
NWArkansas

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  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 7,826
    That looks like raw milled pieces of hardwood flooring. Not a problem - it's probably oak or maple.
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 36,494
    You know it's not mesquite if it used to be flooring. 
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  • YukonRonYukonRon Posts: 16,262
    I am just glad it is not cork.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 27,359
    cowboy got a bad rap because it was flooring, its actually a very clean easy to light lump when you get the flooring in the bag. i have not seen that in years, must be a sign that house construction is up. the cowboy ive been buying is big lump pieces. never agreed with the negative comments on the flooring pieces, its very good lump

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  • LegumeLegume Posts: 11,456
    cowboy got a bad rap because it was flooring, its actually a very clean easy to light lump when you get the flooring in the bag. i have not seen that in years, must be a sign that house construction is up. the cowboy ive been buying is big lump pieces. never agreed with the negative comments on the flooring pieces, its very good lump

    Never again for me, but I'd bet any concern about pieces of bldg material is really concern about finished flooring (sold in boxes) or laminate flooring, not raw flooring like you would get on the lumber aisle.
    I do not have any broken or spare parts for any size egg.
  • Legume said:
    cowboy got a bad rap because it was flooring, its actually a very clean easy to light lump when you get the flooring in the bag. i have not seen that in years, must be a sign that house construction is up. the cowboy ive been buying is big lump pieces. never agreed with the negative comments on the flooring pieces, its very good lump

    Never again for me, but I'd bet any concern about pieces of bldg material is really concern about finished flooring (sold in boxes) or laminate flooring, not raw flooring like you would get on the lumber aisle.
    Linoleum and ground up tires. 

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  • LegumeLegume Posts: 11,456
    Legume said:
    cowboy got a bad rap because it was flooring, its actually a very clean easy to light lump when you get the flooring in the bag. i have not seen that in years, must be a sign that house construction is up. the cowboy ive been buying is big lump pieces. never agreed with the negative comments on the flooring pieces, its very good lump

    Never again for me, but I'd bet any concern about pieces of bldg material is really concern about finished flooring (sold in boxes) or laminate flooring, not raw flooring like you would get on the lumber aisle.
    Linoleum and ground up tires. 
    I must've missed that pic - stronger than mesquite I would imagine.
    I do not have any broken or spare parts for any size egg.
  • CanDidCanDid Posts: 106
    Thanks to @500 I just stopped in Walmart and picked up a 15.4-lb bag of Royal Oak for $9.87. I'm not sure if that is there regular price or not, but they didn't appear to have any markdown advertising around it. Better than Cowboy AND cheaper? What the heck?


    BGE XL
    NWArkansas
  • WhiteyQWhiteyQ Posts: 29
    Surprising a relatively decent store like Lowe's would stock such a garbage product like Cowboy.
  • DoubleEggerDoubleEgger Posts: 16,849
    WhiteyQ said:
    Surprising a relatively decent store like Lowe's would stock such a garbage product like Cowboy.
    Whole Foods carries that crap around here. It's laughable. 
  • sctdgsctdg Posts: 301
    Some years ago close to where I live was a place called Hoboken Wood Floors . A lot of people would be dumpster diving behind their building for scraps ,it was 100% oak and they were using it to burn in their wood stoves ,beat going out in woods and cutting and splitting . Never had to worry about what you were burning ,always good stuff . No creosote stuff . And it was free .
  • HibbyHibby Posts: 606
    I've seen reports of plywood in cowboy. When you consider the toxins in adhesives and the elevated amount of formaldehyde in 'some' hardwood flooring, I'll pass.
    I cook. I eat. I repeat. Thornville, Ohio
  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 7,826
    Hibby said:
    I've seen reports of plywood in cowboy. When you consider the toxins in adhesives and the elevated amount of formaldehyde in 'some' hardwood flooring, I'll pass.
    The pieces of hardwood flooring found in some charcoal is "raw" as I mentioned earlier. It is offcuts from freshly milled wood prior to any finish treatments and, being "real wood", there would be no formaldehyde.
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  • HubHub Posts: 921
    I love Cowboy.  I've tried several brands of lump including Rockwood, and Cowboy gets me the best results.  I'll buy it all day long.
    Beautiful and lovely Villa Rica, Georgia
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 36,494
    Hibby said:
    I've seen reports of plywood in cowboy. When you consider the toxins in adhesives and the elevated amount of formaldehyde in 'some' hardwood flooring, I'll pass.
    FYI - a wood and charcoal fire already gives off plenty of toxic, carcinogenic and mutagenic chemicals.  Including formaldehyde.  

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  • Wolfie51sbWolfie51sb Posts: 267
    WhiteyQ said:
    Surprising a relatively decent store like Lowe's would stock such a garbage product like Cowboy.
    I stopped in my ACE Hardware story yesterday to order some Rockwood. When I told the guy working the counter I wanted to order some some lump charcoal, he said no problem and asked, "Is it Cowboy you want?"

    Pretty proud of myself for not rolling my eyes.

    Rob

    Columbus, Ohio

  • Wolfie51sbWolfie51sb Posts: 267
    WhiteyQ said:
    Surprising a relatively decent store like Lowe's would stock such a garbage product like Cowboy.
    Whole Foods carries that crap around here. It's laughable. 
    Cowboy is the only lump both of our Costcos regularly stock.

    Rob

    Columbus, Ohio

  • DieselkWDieselkW Posts: 889
    I've noticed mill ends in Cowboy lump, pieces of 2x4 are obviously just as man made as chunks of flooring and it amply demonstrates that the folks that make Cowboy lump are actively sourcing from the lowest bidder.

    Every time I buy Cowboy I am reminded of the generous portion of rocks they sell in each bag when I empty the KAB and then I wonder what the hell was I thinking when I bought this cr*p. I was thinking, "it's 50¢ a pound." 

    Sure it's consistently cheapest available. Buyer beware.

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  • jtcBoyntonjtcBoynton Posts: 2,754
    I've never found any construction debris, rocks or other things in Cowboy lump. 

    Maybe because I've never used any Cowboy lump.  Thanks to the forum members for going first and reporting back.  Anytime I am tempted to go for the cheap stuff, I remember these discussions and resist.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
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  • I bought that stuff once...
  • OhioEggerOhioEgger Posts: 702
    DieselkW said:
    Every time I buy Cowboy I am reminded of the generous portion of rocks they sell in each bag 
    I've had plenty of rocks in Royal Oak. 
    Cincinnati, Ohio. Large BGE since 2011. Still learning.
  • GlennMGlennM Posts: 1,102
    I had a chunk of ashphalt in cowboy once. Talk about acrid smoke!i avoid it now 
    In the bush just East of Cambridge,Ontario 
  • KiterToddKiterTodd Posts: 2,461
    Rocks are common in all lump.  Have you seen how it's made?  This is an outdoor process involving backhoes and a lot of soot. Natural debris like that is common. This stuff isn't coming from a clean room!  :)

    I'm skeptical of any building debris, though.  I know that untreated wood flooring is as good as any wood, but I'm not confident the construction workers are carefully sorting through their garbage to make sure plastic, nails, treated wood and varnish don't end up in there.
    LBGE/Maryland
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 27,359
    with the quantity they have, cowboy is getting the scraps from a raw wood mill processing plant, its good clean lumber. they make regular lump as well but the flooring stuff is cleaner and better processed
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  • DieselkWDieselkW Posts: 889
    Best use of Cowboy lump is to clean burn your Egg with it, it will work great for that and it's cheaper than nearly anything else. Then clean up the rocks and nails and other non-wooden debris from the bottom and load your Egg with something better for cooking. RW, WW, RO, Fogo, Quebracho, are all better (but more expensive) alternatives.

    Oh, before I forget, that is an opinion, not a fact or demand that you do what I write. 

    A humble opinion, as a matter of fact.

    Indianapolis, IN

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  • RRPRRP Posts: 23,786
    CanDid said:
    Thanks to @500 I just stopped in Walmart and picked up a 15.4-lb bag of Royal Oak for $9.87. I'm not sure if that is there regular price or not, but they didn't appear to have any markdown advertising around it. Better than Cowboy AND cheaper? What the heck?


    No offense, my man, but I never buy RO or any other brand which has been picked up and stashed on a shelf. Why? That just means someone M A Y have already played "bean bag toss" or whatever like in dropping, kicking or hitting the bags. I only buy off the pallet like it was shipped. I also use a simple test of picking up the bag expecting to find a solid full bag feel to it and listening for a clinking sound. If you hear a sliding, shifting sound in the bag there is a good chance it has tiny pieces.
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  • theyolksonyoutheyolksonyou Posts: 18,077
    Which, by the way, still burn. 
    Jason NW GA- home of carpet and Mexican restaurants
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  • CanDidCanDid Posts: 106
    RRP said:
    No offense, my man, but I never buy RO or any other brand which has been picked up and stashed on a shelf. Why? That just means someone M A Y have already played "bean bag toss" or whatever like in dropping, kicking or hitting the bags. I only buy off the pallet like it was shipped. I also use a simple test of picking up the bag expecting to find a solid full bag feel to it and listening for a clinking sound. If you hear a sliding, shifting sound in the bag there is a good chance it has tiny pieces.
    Yeah, I hear ya. I wish they had it on a pallet still, but this was all that was left. I did do the feel test, was very selective on the 3 bags I took home. Hopefully they'll be OK. Still, @ $9.87 a bag I figure I won't be out as much as that Cowboy I wasted $16 on.
    BGE XL
    NWArkansas
  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 7,826
    CanDid said:
    RRP said:
    No offense, my man, but I never buy RO or any other brand which has been picked up and stashed on a shelf. Why? That just means someone M A Y have already played "bean bag toss" or whatever like in dropping, kicking or hitting the bags. I only buy off the pallet like it was shipped. I also use a simple test of picking up the bag expecting to find a solid full bag feel to it and listening for a clinking sound. If you hear a sliding, shifting sound in the bag there is a good chance it has tiny pieces.
    Yeah, I hear ya. I wish they had it on a pallet still, but this was all that was left. I did do the feel test, was very selective on the 3 bags I took home. Hopefully they'll be OK. Still, @ $9.87 a bag I figure I won't be out as much as that Cowboy I wasted $16 on.
    How do you know you wasted $16 on the Cowboy if you haven't yet used it?

    Don't give in so easily to the peer pressure. :)
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