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1st Cook With The Stick Burner

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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    byrne092 said:
    Super jelly of the cooker, congrats! Everything looks great! Please keep up the posts as you progress 
    Hey thanks byrne092! Thanks for the interest!
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    Great cook and results. Ironically, I look at days when I get to feed my stickburner as "luxurious".
    Thanks! @Foghorn What do you have for a stickburner? Let me know if you have any tip or tricks. Thanks!
    I have a Klose Backyard Chef that I bought off Craigslist.

    https://bbqpits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Printable_20_24x40_BYC_2016.pdf

    Here are things that seem to help me:

    First, I did a "biscuit test" - only with bacon - to figure out the relative temps around the grates.  There will be some gradients.  Once you know them you can think of them as a friend, rather than the enemy - and use them to your advantage (put the bigger butt in the spot that is slightly hotter, etc).

    The other thing that isn't obvious from what you read on the internet is that there is an art to making a fire that will be relatively consistent for many hours (note: this doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of attention - if you just throw wood randomly in the firebox you can get a lot of temperature variation).  I tend to get a good bed of coals as close to the firebox door and as far away from the meat as possible.  Then I put a relative large split of wood as a barrier between the fire and the meat laying transversely across the firebox.  Then I use smaller splits on top of the coals for the main fuel source.  This keeps me from having flames shooting into the cooking chamber and keeps the temperature as constant as possible. 

    And David Klose told me that he likes to use a pan with water and sliced onions (as they are a natural meat tenderizer) when he cooks on his pit.  He positions it below the grate in the cooking chamber - so I do that too.  I can't swear that it makes the meat more moist or tender, but I do it because I've had some great results that way.

    This may or may not be helpful for you depending on the dimensions of your firebox and your wood splits, but that's what I've come up with on mine.

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,892
    FWIW....

    Congrats on your new cooker. I know you will get a couple of years enjoyment out of it.  ;)

    My Lang, I loved, for about two years. Then found like sleep more than tending to fire. The Lang's sweet spot was ~ 45 minutes. 

    Humidity is NOT your friend when it comes to stick burning.

    The biscuit test is as good as having 15 thermometers in the grill at one time. If you have not done so, do the biscuit test.

    The flavor profile, IMO, is much better off a stick burner.

    True test is when you fire it up when its 75 and sunny, then turns to a cold rain and 45. Put on your gloves and be prepared for a fight. That beiatch can kick your ass.

    Have fun!
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
    Ola, Ga

  • CTMike
    CTMike Posts: 3,664
    Awesome results for your first time out. 
    MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.  

    RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
    Southeastern CT. 
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,806
    @Foghorn -  great inputs right there.  Many thanks.  I will have to try the transverse stick barrier although with a Lang 36 I am at the quite small end of the fire-box real estate.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    Great cook and results. Ironically, I look at days when I get to feed my stickburner as "luxurious".
    Thanks! @Foghorn What do you have for a stickburner? Let me know if you have any tip or tricks. Thanks!
    I have a Klose Backyard Chef that I bought off Craigslist.

    https://bbqpits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Printable_20_24x40_BYC_2016.pdf

    Here are things that seem to help me:

    First, I did a "biscuit test" - only with bacon - to figure out the relative temps around the grates.  There will be some gradients.  Once you know them you can think of them as a friend, rather than the enemy - and use them to your advantage (put the bigger butt in the spot that is slightly hotter, etc).

    The other thing that isn't obvious from what you read on the internet is that there is an art to making a fire that will be relatively consistent for many hours (note: this doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of attention - if you just throw wood randomly in the firebox you can get a lot of temperature variation).  I tend to get a good bed of coals as close to the firebox door and as far away from the meat as possible.  Then I put a relative large split of wood as a barrier between the fire and the meat laying transversely across the firebox.  Then I use smaller splits on top of the coals for the main fuel source.  This keeps me from having flames shooting into the cooking chamber and keeps the temperature as constant as possible. 

    And David Klose told me that he likes to use a pan with water and sliced onions (as they are a natural meat tenderizer) when he cooks on his pit.  He positions it below the grate in the cooking chamber - so I do that too.  I can't swear that it makes the meat more moist or tender, but I do it because I've had some great results that way.

    This may or may not be helpful for you depending on the dimensions of your firebox and your wood splits, but that's what I've come up with on mine.
    Thanks for all the tips! @Foghorn How big are your splits? I've read somewhere that they should be around the size of a beer can. Is that somewhat accurate? Thanks!
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    billt01 said:
    FWIW....

    Congrats on your new cooker. I know you will get a couple of years enjoyment out of it.  ;)

    My Lang, I loved, for about two years. Then found like sleep more than tending to fire. The Lang's sweet spot was ~ 45 minutes. 

    Humidity is NOT your friend when it comes to stick burning.

    The biscuit test is as good as having 15 thermometers in the grill at one time. If you have not done so, do the biscuit test.

    The flavor profile, IMO, is much better off a stick burner.

    True test is when you fire it up when its 75 and sunny, then turns to a cold rain and 45. Put on your gloves and be prepared for a fight. That beiatch can kick your ass.

    Have fun!
    Thanks for the tips bilit01! I also need to double check the thermometers. It will be interesting how this smoker works in the middle of winter with the cold here in MN. 
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    CTMike said:
    Awesome results for your first time out. 
    Thanks! @CTMike How often do you have to throw on a stick on with your smoker? Thanks
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,892
    Forgot to add..

    buy your meat a case at the time. Your probably gonna need something better than a food saver. That is a lot to keep warm, make the most of it while shes hot

    go fer volume
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
    Ola, Ga

  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    edited May 2017
    billt01 said:
    Forgot to add..

    buy your meat a case at the time. Your probably gonna need something better than a food saver. That is a lot to keep warm, make the most of it while shes hot

    go fer volume
    That's a good point. It should be good for leftover lunches for the week. Our deep freeze I swear is a black hole. Stuff never seems to come back out once vacuum sealed and put in the freezer. It doesn't help that the grocery store is two blocks away when needing something thawed out. I need to get better at planning meals for the week. 
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,423
    Maybe someone has already mentioned this, but you may have to switch your handle/forum username to BigGreenEggWho
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • CTMike
    CTMike Posts: 3,664
    WeberWho said:
    CTMike said:
    Awesome results for your first time out. 
    Thanks! @CTMike How often do you have to throw on a stick on with your smoker? Thanks
    I throw one on around every 45 minutes to maintain 275 - 325 F.
    MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.  

    RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
    Southeastern CT. 
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    kl8ton said:
    Maybe someone has already mentioned this, but you may have to switch your handle/forum username to BigGreenEggWho
    Haha @kl8ton. I never gave my username much thought when signing up on the original egg forum 7-8 years ago. My intentions were to ask a couple questions on the forum and jump ship. Almost 5,000 posts later here I am with the same lame fourm name. I even have a Weber! I think I'm stuck with it now. =)
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    CTMike said:
    WeberWho said:
    CTMike said:
    Awesome results for your first time out. 
    Thanks! @CTMike How often do you have to throw on a stick on with your smoker? Thanks
    I throw one on around every 45 minutes to maintain 275 - 325 F.
    Good to know @CTMike It seemed like every 15-20 minutes I'd have to throw on a stick to keep it around 250 degress. I'll have to figure out my fire management. Thanks!
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    Great cook and results. Ironically, I look at days when I get to feed my stickburner as "luxurious".
    Thanks! @Foghorn What do you have for a stickburner? Let me know if you have any tip or tricks. Thanks!
    I have a Klose Backyard Chef that I bought off Craigslist.

    https://bbqpits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Printable_20_24x40_BYC_2016.pdf

    Here are things that seem to help me:

    First, I did a "biscuit test" - only with bacon - to figure out the relative temps around the grates.  There will be some gradients.  Once you know them you can think of them as a friend, rather than the enemy - and use them to your advantage (put the bigger butt in the spot that is slightly hotter, etc).

    The other thing that isn't obvious from what you read on the internet is that there is an art to making a fire that will be relatively consistent for many hours (note: this doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of attention - if you just throw wood randomly in the firebox you can get a lot of temperature variation).  I tend to get a good bed of coals as close to the firebox door and as far away from the meat as possible.  Then I put a relative large split of wood as a barrier between the fire and the meat laying transversely across the firebox.  Then I use smaller splits on top of the coals for the main fuel source.  This keeps me from having flames shooting into the cooking chamber and keeps the temperature as constant as possible. 

    And David Klose told me that he likes to use a pan with water and sliced onions (as they are a natural meat tenderizer) when he cooks on his pit.  He positions it below the grate in the cooking chamber - so I do that too.  I can't swear that it makes the meat more moist or tender, but I do it because I've had some great results that way.

    This may or may not be helpful for you depending on the dimensions of your firebox and your wood splits, but that's what I've come up with on mine.
    Thanks for all the tips! @Foghorn How big are your splits? I've read somewhere that they should be around the size of a beer can. Is that somewhat accurate? Thanks!
    Yes. That is about the size of the small splits. The larger "barrier" splits are typically 2-3 times that large - although I buy my wood already split and just work with what I'm given. 

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,532
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    Great cook and results. Ironically, I look at days when I get to feed my stickburner as "luxurious".
    Thanks! @Foghorn What do you have for a stickburner? Let me know if you have any tip or tricks. Thanks!
    I have a Klose Backyard Chef that I bought off Craigslist.

    https://bbqpits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Printable_20_24x40_BYC_2016.pdf

    Here are things that seem to help me:

    First, I did a "biscuit test" - only with bacon - to figure out the relative temps around the grates.  There will be some gradients.  Once you know them you can think of them as a friend, rather than the enemy - and use them to your advantage (put the bigger butt in the spot that is slightly hotter, etc).

    The other thing that isn't obvious from what you read on the internet is that there is an art to making a fire that will be relatively consistent for many hours (note: this doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of attention - if you just throw wood randomly in the firebox you can get a lot of temperature variation).  I tend to get a good bed of coals as close to the firebox door and as far away from the meat as possible.  Then I put a relative large split of wood as a barrier between the fire and the meat laying transversely across the firebox.  Then I use smaller splits on top of the coals for the main fuel source.  This keeps me from having flames shooting into the cooking chamber and keeps the temperature as constant as possible. 

    And David Klose told me that he likes to use a pan with water and sliced onions (as they are a natural meat tenderizer) when he cooks on his pit.  He positions it below the grate in the cooking chamber - so I do that too.  I can't swear that it makes the meat more moist or tender, but I do it because I've had some great results that way.

    This may or may not be helpful for you depending on the dimensions of your firebox and your wood splits, but that's what I've come up with on mine.
    Thanks for all the tips! @Foghorn How big are your splits? I've read somewhere that they should be around the size of a beer can. Is that somewhat accurate? Thanks!
    Yes. That is about the size of the small splits. The larger "barrier" splits are typically 2-3 times that large - although I buy my wood already split and just work with what I'm given. 
    Thanks! @Foghorn The smoker I picked up is reverse flow. Should I still create a barrier wall for the fire? Sorry for all rookie questions...
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    WeberWho said:
    Foghorn said:
    Great cook and results. Ironically, I look at days when I get to feed my stickburner as "luxurious".
    Thanks! @Foghorn What do you have for a stickburner? Let me know if you have any tip or tricks. Thanks!
    I have a Klose Backyard Chef that I bought off Craigslist.

    https://bbqpits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Printable_20_24x40_BYC_2016.pdf

    Here are things that seem to help me:

    First, I did a "biscuit test" - only with bacon - to figure out the relative temps around the grates.  There will be some gradients.  Once you know them you can think of them as a friend, rather than the enemy - and use them to your advantage (put the bigger butt in the spot that is slightly hotter, etc).

    The other thing that isn't obvious from what you read on the internet is that there is an art to making a fire that will be relatively consistent for many hours (note: this doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of attention - if you just throw wood randomly in the firebox you can get a lot of temperature variation).  I tend to get a good bed of coals as close to the firebox door and as far away from the meat as possible.  Then I put a relative large split of wood as a barrier between the fire and the meat laying transversely across the firebox.  Then I use smaller splits on top of the coals for the main fuel source.  This keeps me from having flames shooting into the cooking chamber and keeps the temperature as constant as possible. 

    And David Klose told me that he likes to use a pan with water and sliced onions (as they are a natural meat tenderizer) when he cooks on his pit.  He positions it below the grate in the cooking chamber - so I do that too.  I can't swear that it makes the meat more moist or tender, but I do it because I've had some great results that way.

    This may or may not be helpful for you depending on the dimensions of your firebox and your wood splits, but that's what I've come up with on mine.
    Thanks for all the tips! @Foghorn How big are your splits? I've read somewhere that they should be around the size of a beer can. Is that somewhat accurate? Thanks!
    Yes. That is about the size of the small splits. The larger "barrier" splits are typically 2-3 times that large - although I buy my wood already split and just work with what I'm given. 
    Thanks! @Foghorn The smoker I picked up is reverse flow. Should I still create a barrier wall for the fire? Sorry for all rookie questions...
    Good question. Probably not an issue on a reverse flow smoker although I don't have any personal experience with one. 

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX