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Brisket Redemption

Last weekend, I tried my first brisket, which was less than successful. See here: http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1204882/first-brisket-stuck-at-193-and-no-buttah#latest.  Consensus from the wise people here was too long on the egg, too low a temperature, and crucially, too crappy a cut of meat. 

Last night, my wife and went to Costco to get a leg of lamb for Easter. I decided to stroll past the beef case, and sure enough, they had prime packers. My wife encouraged me to get back on the horse (but never cook her any horse), so I took the plunge.



 This time, I cooked at 265°ish grate (which was roughly 290° dome) overnight, using hickory and post oak. I trimmed the fat cap a la Franklin, but could've trimmed more; I was gun shy after leathery, dry, jerky brisket last weekend. I cut out the hard fat, but left the gelatinous fat.  Used last-minute slather of Dijon and pickle juice, then good coat of Dalmatian Rub with a little garlic (because my genes compel me to cook everything with garlic), and let sit out for 45 minutes until clear blue smoke. It went on a little before midnight. 


My plan was to let it ride naked all night, no wrap--not out of any sense of authenticity, since I'm a Slav in Chicago who's never even been to Texas, but because I'm lazy. It was mostly buttah and running at around 203° IT throughout the flat at 9:30, or roughly ten hours after I put it on.  



I pulled it, FTC for close to three hours. After resting:




When I sliced it, I noticed an immediate difference from last week. Night and day. Not even close. Flat was tender, oozed juices, and I had a nice smoke ring. My wife, who complimented last week's shoe leather by saying, "It makes great jerky!," was even more impressed with properly cooked brisket. 




All in all, I'm very happy with how this turned up, and I'm glad I gave it another shot. This is better than any brisket I've had except for maybe Smoque in Chicago. (Like I said, I've never been to Texas, so I'll concede that this may be a case of limited experience and hubris.)

Conclusions/Ideas for next time:
  • Obvious, but meat quality makes all the difference. I'll only ever do prime unless I'm making a chili brisket. 
  • For the Rub, I did 50/50 by volume. Next time, I'll try weight. It needs more Pepper, less salt. I'd also back off the granulated garlic a bit, too. 
  • Skip the slather. the bark was soft, didn't really set as well as I'd like. 
  • Maybe try trimming a bit more fat. I have large hunks of soft, cooked beef fat. Any ideas on what you can do with those? Can those be used in chili? 
Thanks to all the support and good ideas from the community here. This was definitely a group victory. 





Bridgeport, Chicago, IL
XLBGE, MiniMax BGE

Comments

  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,880
    Way to get back on the horse and ride it to victory.  Great documentation and result right there.  Congrats on the cook and eats.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • Gman2
    Gman2 Posts: 421
    Looks like redemption indeed.
    LBGE, Mechanicsville, Va., LBGE, Duck, NC, XLBGE Wake, Va.
  • looks great.  Next time follow your same cook but lower your temp.  best brisket (IMO) is done low and slow.  225-235 range
  • That looks outstanding!  

    Little Rock, AR

  • da87
    da87 Posts: 640
    Well done!!
    Doug
    Wayne, PA
    LBGE, Weber Kettle (gifted to my sister), Weber Gasser

    "Two things are infinite:  the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe"   Albert Einstein
  • XC242
    XC242 Posts: 1,208
    Nail'd it!!
    LBGE (still waitin' for my free T-Shirt), DIgiQ DX2 (In Blue, cause it's the fastest), Heavy Duty Kick Ash Basket, Mc Farland, WI. :glasses:  B)
    If it wasn't for my BGE I'd have no use for my backyard...
  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    Nice redemption! Did you do burnt ends with the point?
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,880
    @Hans61 - I hope that he recognizes the best part of a brisket is the point.  It would be a major setback to assign that to burnt ends especially with this redemption tour.  But his protein...
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • logchief
    logchief Posts: 1,431
    The fat adds to the flavor, eat it with the rest of it.  Some will balk at that, but taste is everything in moderation
    LBGE - I like the hot stuff.  The big dry San Joaquin Valley, Clovis, CA 
  • danguba78
    danguba78 Posts: 92
    Thanks all--we enjoyed both the point and the flat today. No burnt ends, just straight up brisket. 
    Bridgeport, Chicago, IL
    XLBGE, MiniMax BGE
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,880
    @danguba78 -  way to enjoy the best part of your redemption tour.  You will be well-served to ignore burnt ends with brisket -but the next one is all yours. Congrats again.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    Well done sir. 
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

  • Nice work! The more you do, the more you will understand how to push them through to get what you want. I cooked them at that temp
    with good results when I cooked them On bge'. I always found 225 to be too low and couldn't get them to the texture I like. I still cook at 260-275. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Very nice!
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • GoooDawgs
    GoooDawgs Posts: 1,060
    Nice work! I completely agree that the quality of prime over choice or select is huge,  much more so than in other cuts IMO.  My last couple Costco primes have all been finishing in the low 190s, but I'm seeing more and more people finish in the low 200s.  Crazy cows are all different....
    Milton, GA 
    XL BGE & FB300
  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262

    Nice work.

    Phoenix 
  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    First time reading anything negative about burnt ends, what did I miss? Don't tell me it's akin to putting ketchup on a steak
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,880
    edited April 2017
    I don't put ketchup on a steak so I can't offer the comparison but the point (the sacrificial anode to the brunt ends altar) is the best part of a brisket hands-down.  Moist/fatty and melts like buttah.  I can't see how it could be improved by the burnt ends sentence but that works for some.  Their protein so I'm good with that.  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • dougcrann
    dougcrann Posts: 1,129
    I struggle with Briskets. I decided to use what is known on another site as the BluDawg K.I.S.S Brisket. Semi aggressive trim. Egg set up indirectly. 325* grate temperature. Fat cap down. After 4 hours wrap in Butcher Paper and return to the Egg, cap up. Probe after an hour. When tender remove from the cooker and place on the counter...when IT drops to 155* you are good to go. Started with a 17 pounder, took off a tick or two over 2 pounds of fat. Total time was 8 hours from the time it heat the heat til the time we were ready to eat. Best Brisket I ever made...
    Apologies for the hijack...
  • 1voyager
    1voyager Posts: 1,161
    Nice work! Looks fantastic. Thanks for discussing your new technique. Even after a dozen or so briskets, I can't seem to get it right. Smoking @ 225 until brisket is @ 203 results in a dry prime packer. Perhaps it's because we are at 7,000 feet above sea level, I dunno. Next time I will try cooking your way. 
    Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser.