Spider or Woo For Small?

Biggreenpharmacist said:

I have a woo. I cant imagine a spider giving you enough room to do a very long indirect cook without running out of fuel. Theres just not a ton of room on a small. I have never really thought of trying two level cooks. Im doing good to get a really big pork butt on a single layer without hitting the dome (but thats cooking on the woo at the gasket. 

That was one of my concerns with the Woo if it gets too cramped with doing a single butt. 

Biggreenpharmacist said:

Pretty cramped if its a big one. But also gives you more room for fuel so its kind of a tradeoff. 

I completely agree

Photo Egg said:

I use my Woo on my small with almost every cook. I really like raised direct the most.
The only option I can think of that might work is to have Tom make you a Woo that is shorter. This would give you more room for your 2nd grate. Make sure you have Tom add the 3 stainless nuts to the bottom of the Woo ring. This will allow you to add bolts to the Woo to raise the Woo back to felt level when needed.

Thanks @Photo Egg for the suggestion. I wouldn't have even known that was an option

I wonder if the MiniMax Woo would be ideal for my situation. I'd imagine it's shorter than the Small Woo but sits taller than the Spider. 

Photo Egg said:

This is the Mini Max Woo in the Small. I think it would do what you need as well.

Thank you very much! @Photo Egg Very much appreciated with the pictures. I tried to see if I could get an idea what it might look like with some pictures off goggle. This is way better than imagining. Thanks! 

Do you think there would be enough room for lump to do a pork butt with that setup?

SaintJohnsEgger said:

I have a large and I've cooked indirect using the spider with a pizza stone on it. The spider can be used either side up to raise or lower the stone. I've done it both ways and used it with the AR for two level cooks or with a pan on one level Nd the meat on the top.

i also have the PSWoo. You can't go wrong either way and having both gives you more combinations/options.

Thanks @SaintJohnsEgger I have a spider for my large and enjoy it. What has me wondering how one would work with the small and lump. The Spider would give me the indirect setup and possible two teir grid. The Woo is nice with the indirect setup and felt line. I think I might be going with the Minimax Woo that Photo Egg has pics above for the small. It raises the grid up a little and should give me enough room for a second grid

Focker said:

I have the woo for my small.  And like Darian, it stays parked in it 24/7.

Biggest advantage to me is raised direct, the sweet spot.

The 5 qt Lodge double dutch oven fits fine with the woo.

I haven't multi-level cooked in years, even with the AR and large.  If I need another grid/real estate, I reach for another cooker altogether.

That was another thought that crossed my mind. I'd just use another bigger cooker if needed the extra space. When taking it with me to Frozen Fest this weekend an extra grid would have been nice. Just not sure it's worth the trade off of having raised direct. 

What I was thinking was the 2nd grid would be raised around or slightly above the felt line if I went with a MiniMax Woo setup with the grate stacker

Focker said:

WeberWho said:

Focker said:

I have the woo for my small.  And like Darian, it stays parked in it 24/7.

Biggest advantage to me is raised direct, the sweet spot.

The 5 qt Lodge double dutch oven fits fine with the woo.

I haven't multi-level cooked in years, even with the AR and large.  If I need another grid/real estate, I reach for another cooker altogether.

That was another thought that crossed my mind. I'd just use another bigger cooker if needed the extra space. When taking it with me to Frozen Fest this weekend an extra grid would have been nice. Just not sure it's worth the trade off of having raised direct. 

What I was thinking was the 2nd grid would be raised around or slightly above the felt line if I went with a MiniMax Woo setup with the grate stacker

Always thought it would be cool to run two smalls off the tailgate. 

You need another small for the FF alone. 

I like your thinking! I have a second small egg but yet to fire it up. I found it on clearance but never found a reason to fire up two small eggs at the same time. So it sits on a shelf in my garage collecting dust the last couple years. Adam has tried buying it off me but I know I won't find another one under $300 again with warranty. I can't make up my mind what to do with it.

Photo Egg said:

WeberWho said:

Photo Egg said:

This is the Mini Max Woo in the Small. I think it would do what you need as well.

Thank you very much! @Photo Egg Very much appreciated with the pictures. I tried to see if I could get an idea what it might look like with some pictures off goggle. This is way better than imagining. Thanks! 

Do you think there would be enough room for lump to do a pork butt with that setup?

Your welcome.
I have seen posts of members doing pork butts on the Mini Max using the Woo so I'm sure it's possible. Choice of quality lump might help. 

Great point. I do believe I've seen MiniMaxes doing pork butts. I'd imagine this shouldn't have any problems. Thanks again!

Well this changes things once again. 

What I might have to do is run the grate stacker through the band saw and cut it down and just go with the spider to get closer to the felt line.

Thanks guys. I think I've tried every possible way to talk myself out of Woo and go double stacked grids with the spider. I even had the spider placed in my cart 30 minutes ago on the Ceramic Grill Store website. 10 minutes ago I went out and put my spider in my large to look where it sits upright and upside down for grid heights. Imagining lump consumption for cooks at certain heights with different setups. It's getting ridiculous. I've spent more time figuring this out than it did to buy my last two vehicles. Like one of my good friends said, "You do the opposite of what everyone else does". Maybe he's right. The Woo is probably the best option and most effective setup for the small. I'd like to have double grids indirect and make it work but maybe opposite here isn't the best solution. The Woo it is. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction fellas   

Photo Egg said:

WeberWho said:

Thanks guys. I think I've tried every possible way to talk myself out of Woo and go double stacked grids with the spider. I even had the spider placed in my cart 30 minutes ago on the Ceramic Grill Store website. 10 minutes ago I went out and put my spider in my large to look where it sits upright and upside down for grid heights. Imagining lump consumption for cooks at certain heights with different setups. It's getting ridiculous. I've spent more time figuring this out than it did to buy my last two vehicles. Like one of my good friends said, "You do the opposite of what everyone else does". Maybe he's right. The Woo is probably the best option and most effective setup for the small. I'd like to have double grids indirect and make it work but maybe opposite here isn't the best solution. The Woo it is. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction fellas   

Even if you decide to go another route in the future, you will love having the Woo.

Thanks again for the help with everything. The woo is on its way. 

lousubcap said:

May be too late but I bought the 10" stone with the woo.  FWIW-

Thanks @lousubcap I have an old large platesetter that lost a leg when my egg took a tumble. I've kept it with having intention to use it for something else. I should be able to cut it down into a smaller deflector to fit the Woo. Maybe wishful thinking though. I think I've seen some other posts here or on greeneggers in the past that has has people cutting them down for other uses. 

lousubcap said:

I'm sure you will make it work.  Have fun with the SBGE-you didn't ask but right out of the gate (based on recommendations here) I installed a high-que grate and have never had any temperature issues.  Don't know how it behaves with the stock grate-seems to vary quite a bit by BGE.  

Thanks @lousubcap My platesetter went missing a year or so ago. So it will be nice to go back to indirect for smaller cooks. I have a KAB and been using it with the grate in place. It seems to work but vent settings are much different compared to the other eggs. Minnemoh ended up selling me his small nest last summer. That has been huge. Makes things so much simpler. The mates were put on the small last weekend.  So the last bit of monkeying around with the small was the indirect setup. I should be good for awhile once the Woo comes in and I get the platesetter cut down. I also ordered the dip pan with it. The small is my favorite egg. Just has been neglected for a little while