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Sous vide bags keep breaking?
busmania
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what am I doing wrong? I have a vacuum sealer and use the bags with the same brand (foodsaver?). I double bag each food and I triple seal each side of the bag and yet I keep getting water in both bags ruining the food. Help? Was making carnitas overnight and woke up to a bag full of water, food trashed. On this one I could see water pouring out from holes in the side of the bag when I lifted it from the water. Those holes weren't there when I started...it had an ice vacuum when I started.
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I have had issue before if liquid is being sucked into the part that is being sealed. That's the only time I have seen that happen. I hit the stop button on mine as soon as I see it getting all the air out.
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ive only seen meat liquid, and one time air which must have been a little off gassing. never seen holes in the bag unless they were sliding around in the freezer for a few years
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
The wet sealed side never hits the water for me. I clamp the bag on the side of the pot. I just use a little longer bag to make sure the food is submerged.
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@doubleegger that's a good idea
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Has this been all off the same roll? Maybe you got a bad roll by chance? What temps does this happen at? I've gone as far as 180 with vegetables and haven't had any issues yet. Same foodsaver brand bags
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I tend to vacseal my meat that frozen from my meatshare. Never an issue with a seal going bad.
Could you double seal the same spot?
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What temp are you cooking at, assume under 160ºF? Why seal the bags at all? Ribs (cooked at 150ºF) go into the bag with some sauce and rub, and like @DoubleEgger, the unsealed edge is clipped to side of the pot. When first putting th bag into the bath, you might have to displace the air using the water displacement method. Check out ChefSteps for hints, they seldom seal any bag.
Corn on the cob or sprouts will float so I do seal the bag and then clip a weight to the bottom of the bag. I cook those at 85ºC/185ºF and have never had a bag break or leak. Wonder if the triple seal is the issue?Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad! -
Sure sounds like bad bags to me. Can you make a bag with one side open and blow into it like a balloon? That should tell you something.Cincinnati, Ohio. Large BGE since 2011. Still learning.
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Was there any sharp bone/edge sticking out that could have created a weak spot in the bag?canuckland
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No sharp spots. The outside bag failed spectate from the inside bag. Did not have time to investigate why inside bag broke. This is a new role. Maybe it's defective. MYbe I am vacuuming too tight. I have had food (potatoes) where I thought the bag failed but in the end it seemed like the liquid in the bag was reabsorbed by the food after sitting on the counter.
For this cook cook that sparked this thread, I was cooking at 175. -
If you are double bagging, the vacuum put on the outer bag could break the seal on the inner bag.busmania said:No sharp spots. The outside bag failed spectate from the inside bag. Did not have time to investigate why inside bag broke. This is a new role. Maybe it's defective. MYbe I am vacuuming too tight. I have had food (potatoes) where I thought the bag failed but in the end it seemed like the liquid in the bag was reabsorbed by the food after sitting on the counter.
For this cook cook that sparked this thread, I was cooking at 175.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
call me cheap, but I never use FS bags for my sous vide cooks. Instead I use gallon sized storage bags which are 10 x 14. I push out the air and seal with one of the twist ties that comes with them. Then rather than to let them float around I clip to the side of my vessel. I have yet to have one leak or melt.Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time
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I think zip lock bags are more expensive Ron.RRP said:call me cheap, but I never use FS bags for my sous vide cooks. Instead I use gallon sized storage bags which are 10 x 14. I push out the air and seal with one of the twist ties that comes with them. Then rather than to let them float around I clip to the side of my vessel. I have yet to have one leak or melt. -
He is not using zip lock bags.Lit said:
I think zip lock bags are more expensive Ron.RRP said:call me cheap, but I never use FS bags for my sous vide cooks. Instead I use gallon sized storage bags which are 10 x 14. I push out the air and seal with one of the twist ties that comes with them. Then rather than to let them float around I clip to the side of my vessel. I have yet to have one leak or melt.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
True - zip lock bags are - but what I use are very inexpensive! Some brands label them as bread bags. I just buy generic Kroger bags.Lit said:
I think zip lock bags are more expensive Ron.RRP said:call me cheap, but I never use FS bags for my sous vide cooks. Instead I use gallon sized storage bags which are 10 x 14. I push out the air and seal with one of the twist ties that comes with them. Then rather than to let them float around I clip to the side of my vessel. I have yet to have one leak or melt.Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time -
Hm, link to said bags? I'm a visual learner.
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Interesting how we all approach this. I reuse the unsealed Foodsaver bags, depending on what was in them, but generally a quick rinse and some dish soap followed by another rinse and it is good to go, again.RRP said:
True - zip lock bags are - but what I use are very inexpensive! Some brands label them as bread bags. I just buy generic Kroger bags.Lit said:
I think zip lock bags are more expensive Ron.RRP said:call me cheap, but I never use FS bags for my sous vide cooks. Instead I use gallon sized storage bags which are 10 x 14. I push out the air and seal with one of the twist ties that comes with them. Then rather than to let them float around I clip to the side of my vessel. I have yet to have one leak or melt.Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad! -
Man you guys put a lot of thought and effort into this. I get probably 150 uses out of a $30 box of food savers bags from Costco I will continue to sacrifice the 20 cents when I want to use the sous vide.
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How about this? Use one once and toss it!busmania said:Hm, link to said bags? I'm a visual learner.
Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time -
For sure.. I'm kind of taken back how people wash and re use a food saver bag... But will buy any and every accessory for their eggs...Lit said:Man you guys put a lot of thought and effort into this. I get probably 150 uses out of a $30 box of food savers bags from Costco I will continue to sacrifice the 20 cents when I want to use the sous vide.
I get plenty of use from my FS. I use ONLY FS bags, and I haven't had a leak, ever.
But if you do get a leak from your bags in SV.. don't buy your condoms where you buy your SV bags!-FATC1TY
Grillin' and Brewing in Atlanta
LBGE
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I use these for bags, but never thought of using them for SV. They hold up well for long SV cooks ? They seem kind of thin.RRP said:
How about this? Use one once and toss it!busmania said:Hm, link to said bags? I'm a visual learner.
#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
not the best picture, but here was tonight's 10 wing pieces (5 flats and 5 dummies) precooked and then frozen. I took them out of of our freezer and placed frozen in one of those cheap-thin bags and reheated for 3 hours at 130º. No bag failure and then tossed the bag! BTW I for one never re-use a Food Saver bag again - EVER - whether for raw meat or cooked meat and especially chicken! I don't care to have a chance meeting with those weird country cousins "Sam & Ella". LOLcaliking said:
Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time -
did my first sous vide cook last night. 2 chicken breast. zip lock bags. no issues, turned out great.
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