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Pickerel (or walleye as y'all call it)

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  • Fred19Flintstone
    Fred19Flintstone Posts: 8,174
    Your Wallys look wonderful!
    Flint, Michigan
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  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    That is a fine looking plate. I like the use of the cooling rack for a fish grid. What impresses me most is that you spelled y'all correctly.  

    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

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  • hoosier_egger
    hoosier_egger Posts: 6,808
    I love me some walleye! Looks super 
    ~ John - Formerly known as ColtsFan  - https://www.instagram.com/hoosier_egger
    XL BGE, LG BGE, Med BGE, BGE Chiminea, Ardore Pizza Oven
    Bloomington, IN - Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoosiers!

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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    Not hitting Pike yet?  Those are perfect sized walleye fillets. When they were swimming were those about 24"-26" ?  Looks excellent Steven!
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • keener75
    keener75 Posts: 410
    Those Pickerel look fantastic! Decent sized fillets.
    Where were they caught? 
    I have fished Pickerel from Thunder Bay to the Kawartha's. Nothing better than a shore lunch. 
    St Marys, Ontario, Canada  LBGE
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    edited October 2016
    Zehr's I think. No wait it was Freshco

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    Brother Little, looking at this reminds me of seeing my first fully shaven vagina. Simply impressed my friend. 

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,369
    Loved eating walleye when visiting gramma/gramps in Minnesota as a kid.  Loved the taste of pike too, but picking thru the bones wasn't much fun (and yeah, I saw the excellent thread on smoking pike).
    I gave up fishing when too many people told me "Shoulda been here yesterday".  :angry:  But, when I hit retirement in a couple more years, I live in the middle of excellent fly fishing, we'll see...

    “All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.”

                  - Mark Twain 

    Ogden, UT, USA


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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Beautiful cook!  Wish sometimes we had northern lake fish available here in the south. Nice work.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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  • JustineCaseyFeldown
    JustineCaseyFeldown Posts: 867
    We were callong it pickerel, and you and the Canadian guide were callin it wall eye.


    I don't know what to believe any more 
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    Notice it was store bought. Figured out that the $19 a pound they were charging for it was a great deal compared to the usual $1,500 it costs to catch them with you mutts. I don't even have to endure Rodney either.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    edited October 2016
    NPHuskerFL said:
    Not hitting Pike yet?  Those are perfect sized walleye fillets. When they were swimming were those about 24"-26" ?  Looks excellent Steven!
    Pike are OK through the ice and cold water in the spring. Taste like carp the rest of the time IMHO. Oh and they were store bought, frozen. Most of the commercial pickerel comes out of Lake Erie around here but these were out of Georgian Bay.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • RedSkip
    RedSkip Posts: 1,400
    Pickerel and Walleye are different fish.
    Large BGE - McDonald, PA
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,584
    this is a pickerel, pike and walleye are different fish =) 19 a pound is pretty pricey for something you can catch with a stick, some twine, hook and a worm ;)

    pickerel

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    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    RedSkip said:
    Pickerel and Walleye are different fish.
    In most places, Pickerel is different from a Walleye.  For most of us, Pickerel is a member of the pike family, found in more southern US areas. Northern Pike, or Northerns are related and generally found more north than pickerels.  Walleyes are not in the Pike family and are completely different from these Pickerels.  Walleyes do go by several different names in different areas, including Walleyed Pike and Pickerel (seems to the popular name for them in ON).
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
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  • gmac
    gmac Posts: 1,814

    When I was a kid I had a "Fishes of Ontario" poster on my wall. The fish you cooked was clearly called "Pickerel" (or Dore for the French speaking folks).  Yes, there are also American or chain pickerel that look like little pike etc (we called the Grass Pike around Lake Erie) but up here calling "walleye" pickerel was a regional name that everyone used.  It wasn't really until the proliferation of US based fishing shows that seemed to prompt folks to start using walleye instead of pickerel around here.  I think it was driven by trying to appeal to US fisherman from a tourism standpoint.


    Anyway, they were pickerel to me when I was a kid and always will be pickerel.  You call them what you want.

    Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large.
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    jtcBoynton said:
    RedSkip said:
    Pickerel and Walleye are different fish.
    In most places, Pickerel is different from a Walleye.  For most of us, Pickerel is a member of the pike family, found in more southern US areas. Northern Pike, or Northerns are related and generally found more north than pickerels.  Walleyes are not in the Pike family and are completely different from these Pickerels.  Walleyes do go by several different names in different areas, including Walleyed Pike and Pickerel (seems to the popular name for them in ON).
    And in Quebec and the Maritimes. We are aware that it is a misnomer but that is what we are raised with. If I can find the package I'll post it in this thread. 

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    fishlessman said:
    this is a pickerel, pike and walleye are different fish =) 19 a pound is pretty pricey for something you can catch with a stick, some twine, hook and a worm ;)

    pickerel

    photo 003-101jpg

    fishlessman said:
    this is a pickerel, pike and walleye are different fish =) 19 a pound is pretty pricey for something you can catch with a stick, some twine, hook and a worm ;)

    pickerel



    That's an ugly looking fish. Looks nothing like a pickerel. :o

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    SmokeyPitt said:
    That is a fine looking plate. I like the use of the cooling rack for a fish grid. What impresses me most is that you spelled y'all correctly.  
    Dude I just got back from Alabama. 

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • smokeybreeze
    smokeybreeze Posts: 216
    "So, what’s all this about the “Canadian pickerel” really being a “walleye?” Are we talking about the same fish having two names? For generations, when Americans have said “It is a walleye,” we Canadians have—sometimes defiantly—responded, “We call it pickerel in Canada; Americans call it walleye.” Have we been wrong all these years? Well, the answer is yes."
    http://northernwilds.com/pickerel-vs-walleye-setting-the-record-straight/

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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    Lots of things go by different names.  Why is the Canadian name the wrong one?  I'm willing to accept that Canadian English and American English can be different. 

    Pork butt = Boston butt = pork shoulder = pork collar.  Which is the 'right' one?
    Kansas City steak or New York strip?
    Calzone or Stromboli?
    sub, hoagie, wedge, hero, grinder?

    Which is the 'right' one?  Who gets to decide?

    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
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  • RedSkip
    RedSkip Posts: 1,400
    @jtcBoynton. Stromboli does not have ricotta cheese, where a calzone does.
    Large BGE - McDonald, PA
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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    @RedSkip  Some people have a clear distinction of how Stromboli and Calzone differ.  However, the distinguishing factors differ depending on who you ask. For some its sauce inside vs on the side, pizza dough vs bread dough, or ricotta cheese vs no ricotta.  
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
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  • RedSkip
    RedSkip Posts: 1,400
    @jtcBoynton. After posting I did a quick search, and it's funny how different, as you mention, the topic of Stromboli vs Calzone is.  Appreciate the statement, learned something new today!
    Large BGE - McDonald, PA
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    jtcBoynton said:
    Lots of things go by different names.  Why is the Canadian name the wrong one?  I'm willing to accept that Canadian English and American English can be different. 

    Pork butt = Boston butt = pork shoulder = pork collar.  Which is the 'right' one?
    Kansas City steak or New York strip?
    Calzone or Stromboli?
    sub, hoagie, wedge, hero, grinder?

    Which is the 'right' one?  Who gets to decide?



    As far as I know Quebecers invented the sandwich in the long bun...the sous marin

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • Grillmagic
    Grillmagic Posts: 1,600
    Walleye is my favorite! A little old bays butter and lemon on the BGE is a fine meal. This looks Great!
    Charlotte, Michigan XL BGE
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817

    Here are some others:

    https://geekdad.com/2013/12/55-canadianisms-1/

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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  • smokeybreeze
    smokeybreeze Posts: 216
    edited October 2016
    Little Steven said:

    Here are some others:

    https://geekdad.com/2013/12/55-canadianisms-1/

    ...and Bob's your uncle ;)

    I think "Regional Dialects" best describe many of these naming differences, but when it comes to the actual DNA that something has, the scientific community has a definitive naming schema and agreed upon labels.

    Or where the species has lived makes a difference (DNA is identical):
    Rainbow Trout (freshwater only) == Steelhead (ocean run Rainbow trout)
    Grizzly Bear (inland, 200+ miles from the coast, great tasting meat) == Brown Bear (coastal grizzly bear that enjoys much higher protein diet from seafood, tastes like sh*t)

    Other regional dialects might include the following:
    coke, bubbler, screw the pooch, soda, all y'all, fixin, fixins, and what I saw when a Newfie pointed at something and called it a boyk (bike spoken with a Newfie accent).

    Then there's that "regular coffee" I got in Corner Brook - not what I expected.

    Regardless, Little Steven, those sure look like good eats.
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    Regular coffee is pretty much across Canada but I've heard Americans use it too.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

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