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Normal?

went for ribs tonight. Kept it at 270-290 for the whole cook. Started egg at 1220 and put ribs on at 115. 

Could never  get the egg hotter. At 5, had to add more charcoal. Started with enough to hit top of fire ring. 

Should i I have gone through that much, and amazed at the struggle of trying to get hotter. 

Indirect. Foiled plate setter with a raised grid. Two racks of ribs. 

Doing cookies right now with same setup, added baking stone. All vents pretty much wide open and grill won't get above 350.

not saying I am not cooking at right temps, but curious why I can't get it hotter. 


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Livermore, California
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    Take the daisy wheel off. Your airflow is limited on the exhaust side. When you remove the daisy wheel, temps will increase.
    They/Them
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  • Do you cook often without the daisy wheel for hotter temps?  I feel like I may be trying to catch my lower temp too soon, thus killing my fire on certain levels. 
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  • SoCalTim
    SoCalTim Posts: 2,158


    Think of it this way, the lower vent is the gas, the upper vent is the brakes.
    I've slow smoked and eaten so much pork, I'm legally recognized as being part swine - Chatsworth Ca.
  • At the temps I was cooking at though, should I have gone through that much lump that quickly?
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    Livermore, California
  • Sliding the daisy wide open gives me 400. You just have the petals open
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    Anything 350* or over, take daisy off and control temps with just the bottom vent. As far as lump consumption, my tabulating abilities left the building a few pours ago.
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  • Agree about taking the daisy wheel off, but there's probably even a little more at work here. Was the slit in the fire box aligned with the lower vent? A few other potential issues could be ash build up and/or using mostly smaller pieces of lump and dust that can restrict air flow if covering the charcoal grate.
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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    You have diminished airflow.  That's all. Clean it out if you want higher temps to optimize airflow.  
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • I cleaned everything out prior to the cook. I would say smaller pieces of lump could be part of it. 

    Like I said, I was not trying to get to high temps, but was curious to the consumption at the lower temps, because if I was doing a longer cook, I would have to add lump a few times at this rate. 
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    Livermore, California
  • tikigriller
    tikigriller Posts: 1,389
    edited September 2016
    Right now I am all the way open on bottom and top and it stays at 390.  (Yes....I am now playing with the changes while cooking cookies and not wanting to burn them.). Just curious if these settings seem in line with what they should produce so I knownhownto handle things next time. 
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    Livermore, California
  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    I've never had to refuel my egg, even on 16 hr no wrap butt cooks. Not sure what happened to you bro
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  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262
    SoCalTim said:


    Think of it this way, the lower vent is the gas, the upper vent is the brakes.

    @SoCalTim

    Not sure I agree with you on this one Tim.  I think both vents - in any combination, act as the brakes



    Phoenix 
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    blasting said:
    SoCalTim said:


    Think of it this way, the lower vent is the gas, the upper vent is the brakes.

    @SoCalTim

    Not sure I agree with you on this one Tim.  I think both vents - in any combination, act as the brakes



    And in a way like gas.  Improved exhaust = improved combustion.  OP clearly had an airflow problem.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Right now I am all the way open on bottom and top and it stays at 390.  (Yes....I am now playing with the changes while cooking cookies and not wanting to burn them.). Just curious if these settings seem in line with what they should produce so I knownhownto handle things next time. 
    If you want more than 400, lose the daisy altogether 
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  • What kind of lump? With petal open and the bottom at an inch or so my MBGE will run at 400ºF (give or take a needle width or two) using Maple Leaf. With Royal Choke, lucky to get to 350ºF. 
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  • Ok. 

    obviously I have a lot more learning to do. Which is okay.........my brain just thought totally different things about how much things needed to be open or not used to reach desired temps.  Apparently, I am going to be really good at holding the lower ones!!!!
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    Livermore, California
  • tikigriller
    tikigriller Posts: 1,389
    edited September 2016
    What kind of lump? With petal open and the bottom at an inch or so my MBGE will run at 400ºF (give or take a needle width or two) using Maple Leaf. With Royal Choke, lucky to get to 350ºF. 
    I am on BGE lump. Bottom vent at about an inch and not daisy wheel. Holding steady at 390. 
    Just bought an Egg?  Here is what you get to look forward to now:

    Plate Setter, FlameBoss 200, Spider, PSWOO-CI, Additional Rig Shelf for dome cooking, Thermapen, iGrill2, Cast Iron, Blackstone, Cooking Accessories for the Blackstone, Cover for the Egg and the Blackstone, shopping for Rub like a fine wine or IPA, and a new fascination with lump and what brand is the best-all to be debated every Friday Night.  Next desires-Joetisceriie, Adjustable Rig, Grillmates, table and more eggs

    Livermore, California
  • Well the good news is the cookies made it  


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    Livermore, California
  • Have you calibrated your thermometer?
  • JMCXL
    JMCXL Posts: 1,524
    Have you calibrated your thermometer?
    that was my question also...
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  • Yes. Did that the day i brought it home. 
    Just bought an Egg?  Here is what you get to look forward to now:

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    Livermore, California
  • BilZol
    BilZol Posts: 698
    I've had the same issues and could never point to any one thing. I always leave my bottom vent open, screen closed and control through top. Usually have lid closed top vent open for anything under 325-350 while bringing it up. If I'm going for a hot cook I leave the lid open for about 20 minutes or so with all of the giblets I'm going to be cooking with in place, sans the food itself, until the fire spreads through more of the lump. It's been working for me so far. 

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,597
    if you want to go hotter than about 450, you need to take the daisy completely off the egg =) this is about 1200 dome temp

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  • SoCalTim
    SoCalTim Posts: 2,158
    blasting said:
    SoCalTim said:


    Think of it this way, the lower vent is the gas, the upper vent is the brakes.

    @SoCalTim

    Not sure I agree with you on this one Tim.  I think both vents - in any combination, act as the brakes



    @blasting , at our Eggfest a few years back, BGE send an instructor to teach a BBQ 101 class, he was very informative and was the one who told me 'Lower vent = Gas, Upper vent = Brakes.

    I've done it that way ever since.
    I've slow smoked and eaten so much pork, I'm legally recognized as being part swine - Chatsworth Ca.
  • I think I am going to just play with temps tonight, no cooking.  I have to keep reminding myself that I am still very new at this Egg.......when I run around reading all of the stuff on h ere, I keep thinking I am Mr. Pro already packed with all my knowledge and how easy you all make everything sound!  LOL
    Just bought an Egg?  Here is what you get to look forward to now:

    Plate Setter, FlameBoss 200, Spider, PSWOO-CI, Additional Rig Shelf for dome cooking, Thermapen, iGrill2, Cast Iron, Blackstone, Cooking Accessories for the Blackstone, Cover for the Egg and the Blackstone, shopping for Rub like a fine wine or IPA, and a new fascination with lump and what brand is the best-all to be debated every Friday Night.  Next desires-Joetisceriie, Adjustable Rig, Grillmates, table and more eggs

    Livermore, California
  • SoCalTim said:
    blasting said:
    SoCalTim said:


    Think of it this way, the lower vent is the gas, the upper vent is the brakes.

    @SoCalTim

    Not sure I agree with you on this one Tim.  I think both vents - in any combination, act as the brakes



    @blasting , at our Eggfest a few years back, BGE send an instructor to teach a BBQ 101 class, he was very informative and was the one who told me 'Lower vent = Gas, Upper vent = Brakes.

    I've done it that way ever since.
    There are a few ways to controls temps

    It's exactly akin to a garden hose: Hose bib at the wall and adjustable nozzle on the other end. 

    One, or the other, or both will control the flow of water thru the hose or air thru the egg
    Each has a perfectly logical rationale 
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  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Nice lookin' cookies.

    To the original question. How much lump did you have at the start? At the temp you mentioned, on average I usually get at least 4 hours with a half filled fire box. The kind of lump makes some difference. Fully filled, 12. Up into the ring, 24 hrs, maybe more
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,806
    A related note- I don't know when you brought your bGE home and checked the thermo cal but I would do it again to remove all doubt.  Chances are it is fine but why leave it to chance?  FWIW-
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  • gdenby said:
    Nice lookin' cookies.

    To the original question. How much lump did you have at the start? At the temp you mentioned, on average I usually get at least 4 hours with a half filled fire box. The kind of lump makes some difference. Fully filled, 12. Up into the ring, 24 hrs, maybe more

    I would say it was 3/4 full.
    Just bought an Egg?  Here is what you get to look forward to now:

    Plate Setter, FlameBoss 200, Spider, PSWOO-CI, Additional Rig Shelf for dome cooking, Thermapen, iGrill2, Cast Iron, Blackstone, Cooking Accessories for the Blackstone, Cover for the Egg and the Blackstone, shopping for Rub like a fine wine or IPA, and a new fascination with lump and what brand is the best-all to be debated every Friday Night.  Next desires-Joetisceriie, Adjustable Rig, Grillmates, table and more eggs

    Livermore, California
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,597
    I think I am going to just play with temps tonight, no cooking.  I have to keep reminding myself that I am still very new at this Egg.......when I run around reading all of the stuff on h ere, I keep thinking I am Mr. Pro already packed with all my knowledge and how easy you all make everything sound!  LOL
    be careful opening an egg the first several higher temp cooks, the dome band can expand and the dome can fall out, watch for that. it sometimes takes a few re tightening of the band before that settles in
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it