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Firemanyz
Firemanyz Posts: 907
edited June 2016 in EggHead Forum
So title says it all the other day my 7 year old LG 52" tv took a crap. I've been looking and I'm trying to decide if I NEED a 4K tv or just a 1080 tv. I have Comcast and as of now they don't even broadcast in 4K. I also still use an old DVD player and VCR. I don't stream any movies. My wife does have a Netflix account and Amazon prime so we will have some access. I'm looking for any thoughts. 

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  • Dobie
    Dobie Posts: 3,364
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    You don't need HD yet, I suggest Samsung. 
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  • 500
    500 Posts: 3,177
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    Even though there isn't 4K content yet, I think you get it. Content will catch up at some point. Some day there will be 8K TVs. 
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,174
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    I've got a 4K Samsung. Not enough content to make it worth the extra money. I wouldn't recommend. 
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  • Bshults1
    Bshults1 Posts: 145
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    I wouldn't bother with a 4K tv just yet either.  And plus, depending on how far you're sitting from your tv, there's a good chance your naked eye wouldn't even pick up the difference in resolution anyway
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  • DoubleEgger
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    Bshults1 said:
    I wouldn't bother with a 4K tv just yet either.  And plus, depending on how far you're sitting from your tv, there's a good chance your naked eye wouldn't even pick up the difference in resolution anyway
    You can tell the difference pretty easily. Limited programming is the Achilles Heel. 
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  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,746
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    I'm not a tech geek by any means, but when we were looking a few years back I thought the Sharp Aquos (1080 p, 240 Hz, 3D), which we ended up purchasing, and Samsung had noticeably better picture than the others we looked at. Having said that, I'm sure the technology has surpassed what we currently have, but we've been pleased.
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  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,746
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    The trouble with getting the newest technology is the price will usually come down significantly in a year or two and the next version always has a few extra bells and whistles missing from the earlier models.
    Stillwater, MN
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  • Dobie
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    StillH2OEgger said:
    The trouble with getting the newest technology is the price will usually come down significantly in a year or two and the next version always has a few extra bells and whistles missing from the earlier models.
    Today the gaps not huge though. I remember when plasma came out 20 years ago an they were $10-$20K  :o
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  • Bshults1
    Bshults1 Posts: 145
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    DoubleEgger said:
    Bshults1 said:
    I wouldn't bother with a 4K tv just yet either.  And plus, depending on how far you're sitting from your tv, there's a good chance your naked eye wouldn't even pick up the difference in resolution anyway
    You can tell the difference pretty easily. Limited programming is the Achilles Heel. 
    I'm sure the difference is more visible on a larger screen, say 50 inch plus.  Otherwise, I can't tell much of a difference.  Or maybe I just need to get that lasik surgery redone sooner than later 
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  • Grillinois
    Grillinois Posts: 165
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    HDR or OLED has more visual impact than 4K.
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  • ColtsFan
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    I don't see the need for 4k. I like smart TV's. They eliminate the need for external devices for Prime/Netflix 
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  • Firemanyz
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    I forgot to say I'm looking at 55-60 inch TVs. We sit about 7-8 ft from the tv. I would like good side angle viewing as I can see it from my kitchen which is 20 ft away. 
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  • Firemanyz
    Firemanyz Posts: 907
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    Yes I am at minimum  getting a smart tv. I have been looking hard at many of the Samsung choices. 

    Does anyone know advantages or disadvantages of curved vs flat?
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Curved TVs have a higher profit margin.

    We have been buying vizios mostly.  They never seem to break.  They're a good value.  Our living room TV is a 1080p Vizio 65" smart tv.  Completely satisfied with it. 
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  • Bshults1
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    If I were you and thinking of going curved, I'd go with an OLED tv for sure, especially since you mentioned watching from the kitchen.  Picture quality wouldn't suffer as much.  But those start getting expensive and like Nola said, higher profit margin for the average viewer.  Can't go wrong with a basic 1080p Samsung or Vizio imho.  
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  • CTMike
    CTMike Posts: 3,247
    edited June 2016
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    Per CNET, the best LED based 4K is the Vizio P-series. The P55-C1 is $1300, and actually gets better reviews than the 65" I have on order due to better side viewing angle. The black levels and contrast are incredible due to the use of full array local dimming as opposed to edge dimming. 

    The TV also utilizes HDR so the colors are amazing. 

    I agree that the content isn't there yet, but why not future proof your purchase as much as possible for this price?
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  • Sweet100s
    Sweet100s Posts: 553
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    Now is a great time to get 4k - I read that part of the summer Olympics will be broadcast in 4k, though 1 day later...   I can see a huge improvement with 4k over HD.  The TV section is where I walk to first at Best Buy or Fry's Electronics.

    I currently have a very early HD Samsung that is DLP(lamp) based.  I've replaced the lamp about 5 times in the past 10 years that I've had this TV.   Besides the lamp maintenance, it's been a great TV.  

    Am thinking about pulling the trigger on a LG OLED (non-curved) next month.
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  • DoubleEgger
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    CTMike said:
    I agree that the content isn't there yet, but why not future proof your purchase as much as possible for this price?
    I thought about this when I bought mine in Nov 2014. My logic was that I could save 50% of the price I paid on a 1080 unit. In a couple of years when the programming comes around ( might take longer, it's been a slow road after all), buy the 4k when it's mainstream and dirt cheap like 1080 is today. Everything is built as disposable these days. Buying into future technology that's a couple years out on a product that only going to last 5-10 years didn't make good business sense to me especially considering how rapidly the market evolves. 

    All logic and reasoning went out the window when the wife walked into the store. She walked around for a few minutes and then pointed at a 60" Samsung 4K and told me to buy that one. 


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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,475
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    Sound & Vision magazine have echoed what a couple above had said, the Vizios are the best bang-for-the-buck out there.  
    That being said, the OLED picture on the LGs blows me away every time I see them.  
    My LG LED w/local dimming is 6 years old...  :s
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  • NonaScott
    NonaScott Posts: 446
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    I have a 65 inch Samsung plasma 3D smart TV. Picture is great from any angle. Can stream HD porn straight from pornhub.
    Narcoossee, FL

    LBGE, Nest, Mates, Plate Setter, Ash Tool. I'm a simple guy.
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  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,746
    edited June 2016
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    I would just like to send out a very public F-you to Firemanyz for starting this thread. Have not bothered to look at new TVs for a few years, but was out and about today and thought I would take a look. Holy balls are there some nice options out there right now. I had no idea what I was missing until today. Thanks again, you sonofabitch. (-: Based on what I now know, you'll be hard pressed to make a regrettable decision.
    Stillwater, MN
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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
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    4K is great for marketing. Content is not there yet. Even if it was, most people will not sit close enough to their tv to get the benefit of 4K vs 1080.  However, most manufacturers are reserving their better features to 4K tv. If you can find a tv with the features you want and it is 1080 don't hesitate.  You may however find that only 4K tv offer the features you want.  I recently got a Samsung 1080. They offer a lot more options in 4K now and very few in 1080. Prices for 4K have gotten more reasonable.  Shop for other features/quality and don't worry about the 4K/1080 issue - either will be fine.  
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  • DTEgg
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    My two cents is but the largest OLED tv by Samsung you can afford, great picture, good product and the resolution on either version will be above average.  With there sales today you can get 4k for about the same price and get other features, but it does not sound like you need 4k for your habits right now...
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  • Codfish
    Codfish Posts: 42
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    After much research, we purchased a Viseo M Series smart tv, has by far the best color control on the market-in our opinion. Also a simple and easy set up, good for dummies like us.
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  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
    edited June 2016
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    I had a sony 27" trinitron that lasted forever. Wouldn't die. 

    I finally said screw it and decided we needed a new tv. 

    Walked in and waved off the salesmen. I ignored prices (written small, thankfully), and brandnames

    looked at them all until i found one with a nice picture. Then found another one that i thought was good. I would look back and forth, back and forth from one to the next. When i had the one that was better, i would look for a new candidate. And repeat. Picture only. 

    My biggest criteria was levels of black. There was a scene on the promo video where the camera was flying down the geand canyon and came upon a cave that was jet black on almost all the tvs.

    but in a couple the cave had many levels of black. I could actually see INTO the cave, where all others were one flat black. 

    They were all the same samsung HD LCD. Bought the size I wanted and took it home

    it also had a half inch bezel. No stupid frame. Just a clear edge. So a bigger screen fit where another maker's next size down would fit

    we still say "man, i love the picture on this thing". Get a high refresh rate too. No laggy pixelation during sports


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  • Wolfpack
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    @Darby_Crenshaw

    looks like we have similar preferences. Have really enjoyed the SUHD Samsung. Excuse the movie- kids are watching while I cook:) 


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  • ColtsFan
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    Darby_Crenshaw said:
    I had a sony 27" trinitron that lasted forever. Wouldn't die. 

    I finally said screw it and decided we needed a new tv. 

    Walked in and waved off the salesmen. I ignored prices (written small, thankfully), and brandnames

    looked at them all until i found one with a nice picture. Then found another one that i thought was good. I would look back and forth, back and forth from one to the next. When i had the one that was better, i would look for a new candidate. And repeat. Picture only. 

    My biggest criteria was levels of black. There was a scene on the promo video where the camera was flying down the geand canyon and came upon a cave that was jet black on almost all the tvs.

    but in a couple the cave had many levels of black. I could actually see INTO the cave, where all others were one flat black. 

    They were all the same samsung HD LCD. Bought the size I wanted and took it home

    it also had a half inch bezel. No stupid frame. Just a clear edge. So a bigger screen fit where another maker's next size down would fit

    we still say "man, i love the picture on this thing". Get a high refresh rate too. No laggy pixelation during sports


    I had one of those several years ago in 32". Heaviest f'in TV there was. I think it weighed more than my LBGE. 
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  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
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     Nah. Weighs maybe twenty pounds. Same tv?

    EDIT: ah. you mean the  trinitron. Yep. Nutbuster
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  • Wolfpack
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    Agree- had a 30" flatscreen HD model and about killed my neighbor and myself. Was much heavier than the 36" curved model it replaced. The new LCD's weigh next to nothing. 
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