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OT- Cost of quality charcoal, can anything else be used in an Egg?
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GASGUY
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Wondering if people have experimented with other materials to cook on their Eggs? For example, coal pellet, etc. I ask because better charcoal seems to be harder to find lately, while pricing for better charcoal seems to keep rising. Leaving the likes of RO and other inferior brands as a fall back. I loved Kamado Joe and Wicked Good charcoal, but I can no longer purchase it locally. I know I can order on line, but I have a storage issues and would prefer to not have to purchase 100+lbs to get decent charcoal. Any ideas would be appreciated.......again no RO debates, thanks.
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for me its just about statrtup times, cowboy and royal oak need longer startup times to burn cleanly. i just use whats available to me at the time ive even cooked over briquettes when thats all i had available, they just dont do low and slows like lump does, fine for grilling though
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4-78gzpW1U
Note I haven't tried them myself. One thing I couldn't help but notice is when he dumps in the lit briquettes from the chimney there is a ton of ash already.Which came first the chicken or the egg? I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. -
I loaded up on the Kingsford briquette that Home Depot had on sale. I use it for things that are not a critical on the egg such as burgers and hot dogs. I bought the 10 limit that was 20 bags. That will keep me good for the summer. I can use the good lump for important cooks.
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Many of you may think I'm nuts but the last 6-7 bags of Royal Oak I've gone through have been very good. Prior to this bunch I had used 7 bags of Rockwood, and a couple bags of cowboy out of desperation, and I am not seeing much of a difference between RW and RO. Perhaps the RO burns faster but I that's just a gut feeling. The Cowboy is crap but works in a pinch.
Start up with the RO has been very fast with little smoke, good size chunks in most bags(not all), burns nicely, and the food has been good.
Just my .02
Highland, MI
L BGE, Primo, and a KJ Jr -
When asking questions such as yours, it's very helpful to know where you are located. You might get better answers from other members in your area.
Ace Hardware sells the Kamado Joe lump in the red bag. So far it's been some of the best I have ever used. It's $25 for a 22 pound bag. Can be ordered online and shipped to your store for pickup. Use code "JUNE2516" for 25% off one item under $50.
I still miss Ozark Oak but have no problem using Royal Oak at $8 for a 17 1/2 pound bag and stock up when it's on sale. I just give it an extra 5-10 minutes to burn clean.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
I can fit 10 bags under the bed. Its a matter of finding room in unlikely places.Columbus, Ohio--A Gasser filled with Matchlight and an Ugly Drum.
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Photo Egg said:When asking questions such as yours, it's very helpful to know where you are located. You might get better answers from other members in your area.
Ace Hardware sells the Kamado Joe lump in the red bag. So far it's been some of the best I have ever used. It's $25 for a 22 pound bag. Can be ordered online and shipped to your store for pickup. Use code "JUNE2516" for 25% off one item under $50.
I still miss Ozark Oak but have no problem using Royal Oak at $8 for a 17 1/2 pound bag and stock up when it's on sale. I just give it an extra 5-10 minutes to burn clean.
http://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-schedule.html
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:When asking questions such as yours, it's very helpful to know where you are located. You might get better answers from other members in your area.
Ace Hardware sells the Kamado Joe lump in the red bag. So far it's been some of the best I have ever used. It's $25 for a 22 pound bag. Can be ordered online and shipped to your store for pickup. Use code "JUNE2516" for 25% off one item under $50.
I still miss Ozark Oak but have no problem using Royal Oak at $8 for a 17 1/2 pound bag and stock up when it's on sale. I just give it an extra 5-10 minutes to burn clean.
http://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-schedule.htmlThank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
That video is interesting. I may start using kingsford for my grilling in the egg. Call me wacko but I prefer the flavor of chicken, burgers, and steak on kingsford over lump.Narcoossee, FL
LBGE, Nest, Mates, Plate Setter, Ash Tool. I'm a simple guy. -
Photo Egg said:HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:When asking questions such as yours, it's very helpful to know where you are located. You might get better answers from other members in your area.
Ace Hardware sells the Kamado Joe lump in the red bag. So far it's been some of the best I have ever used. It's $25 for a 22 pound bag. Can be ordered online and shipped to your store for pickup. Use code "JUNE2516" for 25% off one item under $50.
I still miss Ozark Oak but have no problem using Royal Oak at $8 for a 17 1/2 pound bag and stock up when it's on sale. I just give it an extra 5-10 minutes to burn clean.
http://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-schedule.html
I know KJ used to sell their lump in brown bags for a while. I believe all their lump is in red bags now. All of their charcoal is from Argentina. Their "restaurant grade" charcoal is bagged in the US so they can have more control over the size of the chunks in the bag to ensure more big chunks per bag.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Try cow chips. I'm sure you can find them for free out in the country. If you live in the city, then forget it. It will cost you a couple of bucks for gas to drive to the country.
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HeavyG said:t those Roadshows?
I know KJ used to sell their lump in brown bags for a while. I believe all their lump is in red bags now. All of their charcoal is from Argentina. Their "restaurant grade" charcoal is bagged in the US so they can have more control over the size of the chunks in the bag to ensure more big chunks per bag.
I hope they have stopped this line of lump.
Just a friendly warning.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
Just ordered a couple bags of the kamado Joe today from the ace hardware website. Haven't used it before, but looking forward to trying it after yalls recommendationsCarrollton, Va
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Good thing this isn't Friday night.South Jersey Pine Barrens. XL BGE , Assassin 24, Weber Kettle, CharBroil gasser, AMNPS
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I was told not to use briquettes because they have paraffin in them, and there is off-gas residue will get in the pores of the ceramic.
Is the competition Kingsford made without wax binders?
Did my otherwise excellent BGE dealer tell me a little white lie?
Edit: I checked Naked Whiz.. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productreviews/kingsfordcompetition/kingsfordcompetition.htm
apparently the competition brand has a starch binder and borax in it, but none of the nasty chemicals associated with cheap briquettes.
Indianapolis, IN
BBQ is a celebration of culture in America. It is the closest thing we have to the wines and cheeses of Europe.
Drive a few hundred miles in any direction, and the experience changes dramatically.
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DieselkW said:I was told not to use briquettes because they have paraffin in them, and there is off-gas residue will get in the pores of the ceramic.
Is the competition Kingsford made without wax binders?
Did my otherwise excellent BGE dealer tell me a little white lie?
Edit: I checked Naked Whiz.. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productreviews/kingsfordcompetition/kingsfordcompetition.htm
apparently the competition brand has a starch binder and borax in it, but none of the nasty chemicals associated with cheap briquettes.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using briquettes in a kamado. That is all my dad ever used in his for decades.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
But do not use matchlight. I bought a small bag of that crap when it first hit the market some 30+ years (?) ago. Never could get the lighter fluid taste burned off. Tossed about half the bag and went back to the regular briquets (Kingsford, feeding a weber kettle) and all was well. I'm sure there have been significant improvements in the 3 decades but not enough for me to ever consider it again-if I ever move to the briquet dark-sideLouisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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Fred19Flintstone said:Try cow chips. I'm sure you can find them for free out in the country. If you live in the city, then forget it.
@Fred19Flintstone Cities have dog parks...
@Jstroke has a point about getting creative with the storage. If RO bothers you that much, time to look around the house. Buying one bag at a time is probably the "normal" thing to do. On this forum, not so much. My neighbor looked into my garage the other day and just started laughing at my lump stash.
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DieselkW said:I was told not to use briquettes because they have paraffin in them, and there is off-gas residue will get in the pores of the ceramic.
Is the competition Kingsford made without wax binders?
Did my otherwise excellent BGE dealer tell me a little white lie?
Edit: I checked Naked Whiz.. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productreviews/kingsfordcompetition/kingsfordcompetition.htm
apparently the competition brand has a starch binder and borax in it, but none of the nasty chemicals associated with cheap briquettes.
Lighter fluid or match-light briquettes would be bad voodoo though
The myth of unknown nasty chemicals in briquettes is one of the most repeated and least founded.
Inert binders are used to hold the pulverized charcoal together and release from the mold. Some briquettes have added nitrite, but if that concerns you, barbecue is out of the question to begin with
the issue with briquettes in the BGE is ash and airflow. You can use them, just need to manage ash better[social media disclaimer: irony and sarcasm may be used in some or all of user's posts; emoticon usage is intended to indicate moderately jocular social interaction; the comments toward users, their usernames, and the real people (living or dead) that they refer to are not intended to be adversarial in nature; those replying to this user are entering into a tacit agreement that they are real-life or social-media acquaintances and/or have agreed to or tacitly agreed to perpetrate occasional good-natured ribbing between and among themselves and others] -
In that video do you think He had more briquettes in the firebox? Could he really go 12 hours at 225 on one chimney full?Narcoossee, FL
LBGE, Nest, Mates, Plate Setter, Ash Tool. I'm a simple guy. -
HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:When asking questions such as yours, it's very helpful to know where you are located. You might get better answers from other members in your area.
Ace Hardware sells the Kamado Joe lump in the red bag. So far it's been some of the best I have ever used. It's $25 for a 22 pound bag. Can be ordered online and shipped to your store for pickup. Use code "JUNE2516" for 25% off one item under $50.
I still miss Ozark Oak but have no problem using Royal Oak at $8 for a 17 1/2 pound bag and stock up when it's on sale. I just give it an extra 5-10 minutes to burn clean.
http://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-schedule.html
I know KJ used to sell their lump in brown bags for a while. I believe all their lump is in red bags now. All of their charcoal is from Argentina. Their "restaurant grade" charcoal is bagged in the US so they can have more control over the size of the chunks in the bag to ensure more big chunks per bag. -
Meeeshigan22 said:Many of you may think I'm nuts but the last 6-7 bags of Royal Oak I've gone through have been very good. Prior to this bunch I had used 7 bags of Rockwood, and a couple bags of cowboy out of desperation, and I am not seeing much of a difference between RW and RO. Perhaps the RO burns faster but I that's just a gut feeling. The Cowboy is crap but works in a pinch.
Start up with the RO has been very fast with little smoke, good size chunks in most bags(not all), burns nicely, and the food has been good.
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I'll pour gasoline on this fire - the RO I've been burning lately has been great. It burns very clean from the start and works great.
Oh.................the sacrilege......
In the guitar world, we call it "cork sniffing". No need for lump that was not harvested under a full moon by 12 nude vestal virgins who were then sacrificed on the Altar of Pure Smoke.
Just cook and be happy.South Jersey Pine Barrens. XL BGE , Assassin 24, Weber Kettle, CharBroil gasser, AMNPS -
After pulling a cork all evening, I find this thread more silly than before. With all due respect to the OP, you bought a BGE. In case you don't remember, they are quite pricey to buy. It's like buying a Porsche and then complaining about the cost of the premium gas that you're supposed the burn as opposed to the economical regular unleaded gas.
This is a serious problem.
Flint, Michigan -
Fred19Flintstone said:After pulling a cork all evening, I find this thread more silly than before. With all due respect to the OP, you bought a BGE. In case you don't remember, they are quite pricey to buy. It's like buying a Porsche and then complaining about the cost of the premium gas that you're supposed the burn as opposed to the economical regular unleaded gas.
This is a serious problem.
What a ridiculous analogy. We should never discuss more cost effective burn methods.
Highland, MI
L BGE, Primo, and a KJ Jr -
I jse kingsford briquettes sometimes.
2 LBGE, Blackstone 36, Jumbo Joe
Egging in Southern Illinois (Marion)
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Meeeshigan22 said:Fred19Flintstone said:After pulling a cork all evening, I find this thread more silly than before. With all due respect to the OP, you bought a BGE. In case you don't remember, they are quite pricey to buy. It's like buying a Porsche and then complaining about the cost of the premium gas that you're supposed the burn as opposed to the economical regular unleaded gas.
This is a serious problem.
What a ridiculous analogy. We should never discuss more cost effective burn methods.
Flint, Michigan -
Buying lump is a gamble. Meaning sometimes its in great condition and sometimes its crumbs. Its happened to all of us. I love the idea of cooking with wood/lump charcoal. Most of my friends don't own kamado grills but they all switched to lump charcoal because of me and my egg. Lump charcoal makes the food taste better. Just my opinion.
Ewa Beach, Hawaii -
If anyone is concerned about lump consumption on an egg, go cook on a UDS and report back. Lump consumption on an egg is negligible compared to other cookers.
I know someone who laments about gas prices to fill his $750,000 diesel pusher - kind of the same thing.
Phoenix
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