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Packer Brisket and Pork Butt - Same Time

Doing a packer and a 9lb pork butt this weekend for some friends and family... I've done both before on an offset smoker and individually on the egg.. Never both on the egg at the same time tho..

so im looking for advice/tips... Which meat on top/bottom... Fat side up or down on top meat.. Etc... Planning on 250 degrees until they're both done.. Going on at the same time.. Brisket probably will finish first then wrap and hold until it's time to eat...

large egg... (Still wish I got a %^#* ing XL!)

thanks guys
Large BGE
36" BlackStone
Backwoods G2 Party
Yard full of other stuff to cook on

RVA -> Chesapeake Va
Professional Drinker & Home Cook

Comments

  • Robo2015
    Robo2015 Posts: 267
    I don't have any advice other than to say "good luck" and I like your style!  I am curious what advice you are going to get on this one.
    A Lonely Single Large Egg

    North Shore of Massachusetts
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Brisket over Butt.  Fat side up or down, really doesn't matter. Watch IT.  Have fun.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • EggSmokeVa
    EggSmokeVa Posts: 378
    @bgebrent thanks buddy... What about drip pan / water pan... Is it even possible to do that with both meats on there? If not... Will the fat rendering from both large pieces of meat effect anything?
    Large BGE
    36" BlackStone
    Backwoods G2 Party
    Yard full of other stuff to cook on

    RVA -> Chesapeake Va
    Professional Drinker & Home Cook
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Yes drip pan, no liquid in the pan.  Its possible but you must monitor IT on both hunks of meat.  Make sure you have an air gap between your drip pan and plate setter.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • EggSmokeVa
    EggSmokeVa Posts: 378
    Thank you!! @bgebrent
    Large BGE
    36" BlackStone
    Backwoods G2 Party
    Yard full of other stuff to cook on

    RVA -> Chesapeake Va
    Professional Drinker & Home Cook
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Post your cook brother and eat well!
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Curious: why brisket over butt?
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Curious: why brisket over butt?
    You prefer butt over brisket?  Always anxious to learn as is the OP.  Your thoughts my friend?
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • clifkincaid
    clifkincaid Posts: 572
    Can you offset them then make a foil slide from top rack over the bottom meat? Use foil also over the open heat spots with meat overhang. 
  • tarheelmatt
    tarheelmatt Posts: 9,867
    I've started the brisket first,  then butt. 

    Butt on top, fat up. Brisket on bottom,  fat up. 

    Dry drip pan with spacers. 


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  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    I always cook fat down on both. Brisket over butt, always. Why??? I like the beef taste to be pure, not mingled with the pork fat. As far as beef dripping on pork....I usually use Bad Byrons and pull the pork, so I've never noticed any noticeable taste difference from the brisket being cooked over it.

    imho.

    I've cooked a bunch on this setup...it works for me.

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • tarheelmatt
    tarheelmatt Posts: 9,867
    dldawes1 said:
    I always cook fat down on both. Brisket over butt, always. Why??? I like the beef taste to be pure, not mingled with the pork fat. As far as beef dripping on pork....I usually use Bad Byrons and pull the pork, so I've never noticed any noticeable taste difference from the brisket being cooked over it.

    imho.

    I've cooked a bunch on this setup...it works for me.
    Think you're directing to me and meant butt over brisket.  Why you ask?  I don't really know, it's the way I do it.  My redneck logic is what's wrong with pork fat drippings?  More the better.  I feel the more moisture for the brisket what could hurt.  May not be "right", but I've never had a complaint.   

    My main reason is I start the brisket first, then the butt later to finish with the brisket.  Brisket is already on the main grid, so I just sit the butt on the second tier of mine.  
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  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    tarheelmatt...No sir...sorry for the misunderstanding. My post was directed to EggSmokeVa.  I'd never disagree with you, my friend...you've taught me, along with the rest of the folks here....how to cook.

    I'd never question your advice...sorry again,

    Donnie

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • bgebrent said:
    Curious: why brisket over butt?
    You prefer butt over brisket?  Always anxious to learn as is the OP.  Your thoughts my friend?
    No. Was just curious why you would definitely put one over the other. You sounded like you had a plan. I've never done it so I don't know. I would probably do brisket up because I value the bark more on brisket. I would probably wrap the brisket in foil ( not paper) once the bark set on this cook so the butt could form bark later in the cook. I might apply some extra rub to the butt if it washed off after I wrapped the brisket. Just thinking it through out loud here. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • tarheelmatt
    tarheelmatt Posts: 9,867
    dldawes1 said:
    tarheelmatt...No sir...sorry for the misunderstanding. My post was directed to EggSmokeVa.  I'd never disagree with you, my friend...you've taught me, along with the rest of the folks here....how to cook.

    I'd never question your advice...sorry again,

    Donnie
    Well, hey I've been wrong a bunch in my life.  Certainly don't take my advise as the gospel.  I'm a greenhorn at briskets really.    


    I was looking through my pictures trying to find what I done, but cannot find it for some reason.  I did have a cook where I cooked ribs and chicken on top, and brisket on bottom.  

    I say the OP should test each way and let us know the results.  

    I could see where having the brisket on top could help the bark where the drippings could compromise.  If you hold in a cooler, the bark will be a bit soft anyway.  
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,791
    My thoughts on the brisket and butt cook:
    In the grand scheme of life it doesn't make any difference which one is above the other.
    The above said, I would go with brisket over the butts.  The more narrow finish-line window of a brisket means you will need to give it "more care and feeding" approaching the finish.  Also, I care more about brisket bark thus better positioned above the butt.  
    Couple of things to watch for; if stacking the cook, the closer to the dome the more reflective cooking action so likely a quicker (than normal) cook.  Also make sure to have a good sized air-gapped drip pan to catch all the renderings and make sure to not impale the upper meat on the dome thermo.  That's more than enough for now.  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,137
    I did butts over brisket.
    I wanted the brisket cooked at a lower temp so I put it under the butts.
    Did fat side up on the butts to give it a little more protection from dome heat and also thought it would render more fat off the butts this way. Also thought the fat drippings would run more off the edges this way and not drop onto the brisket.
    I did end up flipping the brisket and putting fat side down.
    Who knows if any of this logic made any difference at all...lol
    Came out pretty good.


    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
  • EggSmokeVa
    EggSmokeVa Posts: 378
    Photo Egg said:
    I did butts over brisket.
    I wanted the brisket cooked at a lower temp so I put it under the butts.
    Did fat side up on the butts to give it a little more protection from dome heat and also thought it would render more fat off the butts this way. Also thought the fat drippings would run more off the edges this way and not drop onto the brisket.
    I did end up flipping the brisket and putting fat side down.
    Who knows if any of this logic made any difference at all...lol
    Came out pretty good.


    Is this the AR? How did you fit the water pan under there and heat deflector? Mine doesn't fit like that.. Unless I'm doing something wrong @Photo Egg
    Large BGE
    36" BlackStone
    Backwoods G2 Party
    Yard full of other stuff to cook on

    RVA -> Chesapeake Va
    Professional Drinker & Home Cook
  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,137
    Photo Egg said:
    I did butts over brisket.
    I wanted the brisket cooked at a lower temp so I put it under the butts.
    Did fat side up on the butts to give it a little more protection from dome heat and also thought it would render more fat off the butts this way. Also thought the fat drippings would run more off the edges this way and not drop onto the brisket.
    I did end up flipping the brisket and putting fat side down.
    Who knows if any of this logic made any difference at all...lol
    Came out pretty good.


    Is this the AR? How did you fit the water pan under there and heat deflector? Mine doesn't fit like that.. Unless I'm doing something wrong @Photo Egg
    Yes, Adjustable Rig.
    I never use a water pan in the Egg. It's just a short drip pan or pan lid sitting on a pizza stone on the drop down spider from Ceramic Grill Store
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas