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HDmstng
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Just my version of, should I cook it or should I eat it...
Took out an 8 lb turkey breast from the freezer to defrost and smoke on Sunday. Had it out in cold water in the sink for one hour, changing the water once, then put it in the fridge overnight. Placed back in cold water for only 15 minutes (still solid for the most part), then had to put it back into the fridge. Should be fully defrosted by now, but in reading some safety guidelines, they say if you use the cold water method to defrost, you need to cook it immediately after defrosting. It was always either in the cold water or the fridge, so is it safe?
Took out an 8 lb turkey breast from the freezer to defrost and smoke on Sunday. Had it out in cold water in the sink for one hour, changing the water once, then put it in the fridge overnight. Placed back in cold water for only 15 minutes (still solid for the most part), then had to put it back into the fridge. Should be fully defrosted by now, but in reading some safety guidelines, they say if you use the cold water method to defrost, you need to cook it immediately after defrosting. It was always either in the cold water or the fridge, so is it safe?
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why wouldn't it be?
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I would cook it. As long as it was still very cold when you put it back in the fridge.
You mentioned it was still mostly solid when you took it out of the water. If that is the case it should be fine. It would be for me.
Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's -
If the water was at 40F or below, the entire time you should be ok. If not at 40F or below there will be a risk. It is recommended to thaw in your fridge set at 40F. If you thawed in water above 40F, then place back in the fridge which could be above 40F you may have some opportunity for bacteria to rapidly multiply, and create an opportunity for the potential of food poisoning.
40F is the lower end of the safe food threshold, and temperatures above that provide risk. You need about 30 minutes per pound changing water frequently and monitoring the temp. The safest way is in a fridge at or below 40F.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
As long as it wasn't in the 140-40 range for more than 4 hours. You are well within the safe zone.XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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i would and im fairly paranoid when it comes to poultry and pork
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I had a bad experience with defrosting turkey in cold water about 20 yrs ago and never was the same since.... you'll probably be OK but to answer your question- I wouldn't cook it.... I would throw it away.
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I don't know that I would risk it either. I have had a bad experience with improperly defrosted turkey. I have been very careful since.westernbbq said:I had a bad experience with defrosting turkey in cold water about 20 yrs ago and never was the same since.... you'll probably be OK but to answer your question- I wouldn't cook it.... I would throw it away.
"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
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This is my sentiment too. Not eating it never would have crossed my mind.Darby_Crenshaw said:why wouldn't it be?LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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I take a couple chicken breasts, pork chips, ground beef or what have you, out of the freezer and put them on a plate and leave on the counter when I leave for work. When I get home from work its thawed and ready to go. I haven't died or got sick. EVER.
If I plan a little better I pull it the day before an leave it in the fridge over night to thaw.
Your fine to eat it, especially if the breast was still solid. It has not been in the danger zone for any length of time.
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Sorry, been in the bathroom the last two days to respond...j/k. With two little ones at home, we decided to play it safe and toss it, plus been a bit busy. The plan was to smoke it while I put down pavers, ~50 sq ft off our patio. This was to keep the Egg (and my wife's gasser) on. Between moving about 4000 lbs of pavers and gravel on Sunday, I never got around to lighting up the egg.
Here's some of the work in progress, and a hijack of my own thread. The pavers are 16x16x2 and initially we were going to go 12' x 2.7'. After I had dug that out and brought home the 20 pavers, my wife thought it didn't go out enough and requested another row. That meant everything got 50% bigger, more digging, and another run to the store...fun fun. It was the right call though.
My calculations said I needed 3/4 of a yard of gravel, ended up buying 1 yard in bulk, but it still wasn't enough. Picked up another 5 cubic feet to finish it off. That stuff compacted more than I thought, not to mention I probably dug it a bit too deep. After getting the bedding sand down yesterday, I was able to get a little over half the pavers down. Hopefully it'll be done tonight, as we are expecting rain tomorrow.
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If i recall the turkey didnt thaw in water right? It was in water for 15minutes and still frozen. Then water again for an hour and still frozen?
four hours unfrozen (between 40-140) is the general rule of thumb
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I want to know how you people eat food from grocery stores if you wouldn't eat this!?XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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playing it safe is UNDERSTANDING the 4 hour rule
if in in doubt throw it out is NOT a good rule.
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
Don't know the specifics, just know what I had read. If there is an absolute unknown, why risk your health or the health of your family? I would have done a brisket anyway,.
@HDmstng I totally get the patio extension. The curse of the BGE! Watch your savings dwindle. I redid mine too.
When I brought it home and put it on the patio, My Beautiful Wife suggested I add on to create space for my BGE XL, so I did. Then we got new patio furniture, then outdoor audio, then rewired for out door electricity, then outdoor lighting, then total landscape redesign....it never ends."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
Louisville, Kentucky -
My wife cooked the turkey breast in the oven today. She said it smelled fine when she unwrapped it. I'll keep y'all posted!
@YukonRon Yeah, it does get expensive! We had already had the patio replaced and expanded in concrete this past December, so what's a bit more?
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I really can't see any reason the bird wouldn't have been completely safe to cook and eat. Respect your approach.Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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We survived!
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Cook itXLBGE
Mini Max
Weber Kettle (rarely in action since the Mini Max addition)
Fort Worth, TX -
Should have cooked it. Was a waste if you ask me, but thats me.Plumbers local 130 chicago. Why do today what you can do tomorrow
weapons: XL, Minie, old gasser, weber, v10 Bradley smoker and sometimes talent!
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I'm confused. First you said you tossed it, then you said your wife cooked it. Which is it?
You should have cooked it.I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Totally safe if you cook it during a clean burn at 800+
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Alton Brown did a Thanksgiving turkey brine video where he put a frozen turkey in a brine for 2 days and does not refrigerate it, only stores it in a closet. Couldn't find the video but here it is written down. He uses a thermometer alarm and says the water has never gotten above 40 degrees.
http://altonbrown.com/why-i-still-brine-my-thanksgiving-turkey/
Aledo, Texas
Large BGE
KJ Jr.
Exodus 12:9 KJV
Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof. -
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I think they changed their minds againCarolina Q said:I'm confused. First you said you tossed it, then you said your wife cooked it. Which is it?
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I like your version better than the original.Darby_Crenshaw said:You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him understand basic concepts and use simple logic
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