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Minimax v joe jr
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Legume said:JohnInCarolina said:Can't believe nobody's mentioned that the Joe Jr. is commie red.Lenoir, N.C.
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Photo Egg said:HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:From a value stand point, like others have said, the MMax is worth more.
You should expect a better deal on the KJ Jr although their price is increasing.
With KJ it does not matter how good your dealer is or if he will be a KJ dealer in the future. All warranty is direct with KJ.
Both are great cookers. The MMax will be a little less weight and smaller foot print when traveling as the stand is more compact.
What is the weight difference on a home scale?
68 pounds vs. 90 pounds.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
I have a Jr and love it...don't regret the purchase at all. I got it new for $400 at the roadshow.Augusta, GA
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HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:HeavyG said:Photo Egg said:From a value stand point, like others have said, the MMax is worth more.
You should expect a better deal on the KJ Jr although their price is increasing.
With KJ it does not matter how good your dealer is or if he will be a KJ dealer in the future. All warranty is direct with KJ.
Both are great cookers. The MMax will be a little less weight and smaller foot print when traveling as the stand is more compact.
What is the weight difference on a home scale?
68 pounds vs. 90 pounds.
Wonder how much weight is added to an Egg that has been used for many years. We know moisture will "seep" out and run down the Egg. Wonder if the stuff trapped in the ceramics adds any noticeable weight over time?Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
slovelad said:so my local dealer gives me really great deals. and I'm thinking about buying a minimax.
but today I go in the store and he is bringing in Kamado joes. This is a game changer.
he has the joetisserie and all the attachments for them.
question is. He said he would sell either one to me for 499 (with plate setter included)
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Our company has MM with accessories $414
Just opened one this morning and seen the Tag -
tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.
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clifkincaid said:Our company has MM with accessories $414
Just opened one this morning and seen the Tag -
I have a Joe Jr and love it, just need to figure out a table system for it....
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Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.------------------------------
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Same price, I would buy the one with local warranty - it's worth a lot to me in time and hassle to not have to ship parts back and wait for new parts to show up. My BGE dealer only asks for a picture of the damage, and then he calls when my new part shows up.
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Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.
use the formula Q=lamda*surface area*delta temperature/thickness of the material for the ceramic. Average your ceramic heat loss and voila you have a comparison of the two. Still not without its problems but it should give you a general idea. you could just use a representative segment of the surface area as well as long as it is the same on both and in the same general area, such as a 10*10 cm area and just compare those.
for my money i would say they are near identical ceramic wise and the difference is weight is due to the fact that they have different dimensions throughout their whole profileLarge BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada -
Hey, if I could have bought a MM at the same price as I paid for my Joe Jr. I would have bought a MM. At $200 difference, I went Joe Jr.------------------------------
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This whole conversation is hilarious IMHO. Very entertaining to say the least. This question, on the egghead forum, in general is a bit asinine to say the least. I realize members of this forum have different cookers but most have Big Green Eggs. Ask this same question on the KJ forum and you will get totally different responses. Choose the one you like most and go for it. After all you will be getting everything you need to smoke, grill, and bake with both. Secondly both are quality cookers and you will be able to produce tasty food from either one.
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chuck0531 said:This whole conversation is hilarious IMHO. Very entertaining to say the least. This question, on the egghead forum, in general is a bit asinine to say the least. I realize members of this forum have different cookers but most have Big Green Eggs. Ask this same question on the KJ forum and you will get totally different responses. Choose the one you like most and go for it. After all you will be getting everything you need to smoke, grill, and bake with both. Secondly both are quality cookers and you will be able to produce tasty food from either one.Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada
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Can't go wrong with multiple cookers (of same or differing brands). Especially handy when needing to cook at different temps. You are right about the pros and cons with cookers because the perfect cooker isn't a reality - it is more of what satisfies each one's needs and style of cooking the best. Love my kamados but also know there are other cookers that are capable of producing delicious food.
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DieselkW said:Same price, I would buy the one with local warranty - it's worth a lot to me in time and hassle to not have to ship parts back and wait for new parts to show up. My BGE dealer only asks for a picture of the damage, and then he calls when my new part shows up.
You don't have to depend on the dealer at all.
Took me less than a week to have a new fire box shipped direct to my front door on my KJ Big Joe. No trips to the dealer needed.
BGE Dealer will ask for photos, then you have to back and pick up parts as "most" will have shipped in their next delivery as they normally don't like to give them out of store stock. My BGE dealer is great but do not stock replacement ceramics for warranty. Or at least do not give them out same day.
I have seen posts about dealers that do. So again, depends on your BGE Dealer and also depends on how long they will stay a BGE Dealer.Thank you,DarianGalveston Texas -
Warranty comparisons are nice, but I think we need more engineering discussions to resolve this. Have we discussed the paint yet? Porosity?
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Photo Egg said:DieselkW said:Same price, I would buy the one with local warranty - it's worth a lot to me in time and hassle to not have to ship parts back and wait for new parts to show up. My BGE dealer only asks for a picture of the damage, and then he calls when my new part shows up.
You don't have to depend on the dealer at all.
Took me less than a week to have a new fire box shipped direct to my front door on my KJ Big Joe. No trips to the dealer needed.
BGE Dealer will ask for photos, then you have to back and pick up parts as "most" will have shipped in their next delivery as they normally don't like to give them out of store stock. My BGE dealer is great but do not stock replacement ceramics for warranty. Or at least do not give them out same day.
I have seen posts about dealers that do. So again, depends on your BGE Dealer and also depends on how long they will stay a BGE Dealer. -
i had to make this same decision about a month ago. bought the joe jr at the costco road show and have no regrets. bge has their heads up their asses on the price of the minimax in my opinion
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tonyled said:i had to make this same decision about a month ago. bought the joe jr at the costco road show and have no regrets. bge has their heads up their asses on the price of the minimax in my opinion"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Little over a year ago I was looking at the Joe Jr before the the MM was out. Ace hardware had them for $365, but SWMBO said know so I got a Kahuna for $200. It's ok, but doesn't come close to ether the MM or the Joe Jr. I would like a small or a medium myself, but that will be waiting for awhile.
If you want it to be mobile and not get knocked over that easily I would go with the MM.XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas GrillKansas City, Mo. -
Lit said:Photo Egg said:DieselkW said:Same price, I would buy the one with local warranty - it's worth a lot to me in time and hassle to not have to ship parts back and wait for new parts to show up. My BGE dealer only asks for a picture of the damage, and then he calls when my new part shows up.
You don't have to depend on the dealer at all.
Took me less than a week to have a new fire box shipped direct to my front door on my KJ Big Joe. No trips to the dealer needed.
BGE Dealer will ask for photos, then you have to back and pick up parts as "most" will have shipped in their next delivery as they normally don't like to give them out of store stock. My BGE dealer is great but do not stock replacement ceramics for warranty. Or at least do not give them out same day.
I have seen posts about dealers that do. So again, depends on your BGE Dealer and also depends on how long they will stay a BGE Dealer.
Perhaps HQ is wising.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
bigalsworth said:Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.
use the formula Q=lamda*surface area*delta temperature/thickness of the material for the ceramic. Average your ceramic heat loss and voila you have a comparison of the two. Still not without its problems but it should give you a general idea. you could just use a representative segment of the surface area as well as long as it is the same on both and in the same general area, such as a 10*10 cm area and just compare those.
for my money i would say they are near identical ceramic wise and the difference is weight is due to the fact that they have different dimensions throughout their whole profile -
tonyled said:i had to make this same decision about a month ago. bought the joe jr at the costco road show and have no regrets. bge has their heads up their asses on the price of the minimax in my opinion
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tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.
You've got 5,600 posts..I've got a few..2nd accusation in as many days from a 'veteran' that I'm somehow out of line for simply speaking the truth?..forget it.
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HeavyG said:Lit said:Photo Egg said:DieselkW said:Same price, I would buy the one with local warranty - it's worth a lot to me in time and hassle to not have to ship parts back and wait for new parts to show up. My BGE dealer only asks for a picture of the damage, and then he calls when my new part shows up.
You don't have to depend on the dealer at all.
Took me less than a week to have a new fire box shipped direct to my front door on my KJ Big Joe. No trips to the dealer needed.
BGE Dealer will ask for photos, then you have to back and pick up parts as "most" will have shipped in their next delivery as they normally don't like to give them out of store stock. My BGE dealer is great but do not stock replacement ceramics for warranty. Or at least do not give them out same day.
I have seen posts about dealers that do. So again, depends on your BGE Dealer and also depends on how long they will stay a BGE Dealer.
Perhaps HQ is wising. -
I got a KJ Jr, just because it was a deal I couldn't pass up ($331 or so)
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1174378/ace-hardware-deal-online-today-only
It's a good little cooker, I highly recommend a Hi-Que for it, the factory fire grate is a bad design, clogs easily.They/Them
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Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:tarheelmatt said:Eggzellent said:^^^^^ +1 on the stand.
Challenges put out there in terms of material differences, firebox configurations, overall shapes and even heat retention in relation to how these things cook at this tiny size have went absolutely nowhere that I can tell. When everything is seemingly the same; I'll take overall weight 9 times out of 10 (advantage MiniMax).
As offered above and many times previously..nobody up here here (including me) seems to have the background or knowledge to flesh out the simple physics separating these two cookers. Absent that tutorial?...I simply picked the heavier (denser material?) cooker and called it a day.
You've got 5,600 posts..I've got a few..2nd accusation in as many days from a 'veteran' that I'm somehow out of line for simply speaking the truth?..forget it.
Have fun.------------------------------
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WTH! This is a BGE forum? Dang. Sorry guys, thought it was a weber forum. I'm out.They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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