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Jealous Devil charcoal...

HeavyG
HeavyG Posts: 10,380
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Anybody used this stuff?

http://jealousdevil.com/
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    I haven't but I swear I saw it at west lake today. I'll double check when I'm in there again. A new charcoal bag that was black and red caught my eye. I didn't look though so I could be wrong. 

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  • Jcl5150
    Jcl5150 Posts: 287
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.
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  • theeggcellentchef
    theeggcellentchef Posts: 138
    Looking forward to a review on this.  Looks intriguing.
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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,759
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
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  • badinfluence
    badinfluence Posts: 1,774
    It says it's a 35lbs bag. Or did I miss something?
    1 XXL BGE,  1 LG BGE, 2 MED. BGE, 1 MINI BGE, 1 Peoria custom cooker Meat Monster.


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  • Mikee
    Mikee Posts: 897

    30 day money back guarantee. I wonder if they'll refund if you send them back ashes?

    Amazon is listing it at $48 for a 35lb bag.

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  • BizGreenEgg
    BizGreenEgg Posts: 301
    stlcharcoal said:
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
    Wow.  It looks like they didn't even try to change it at all.  Straight up cut and paste.
    Large BGE & mini stepchild & a KJ Jr.
    The damp PNW 
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  • SmokingPiney
    SmokingPiney Posts: 2,319
    edited April 2016
    Mikee said:

    Amazon is listing it at $48 for a 35lb bag.

    For me, that better be the be all and end all of of lump for that price.

    And I'll still pass. 
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  • Hotch
    Hotch Posts: 3,564
    A little pricey for me. I will stay with my pallet of Wicked Good!
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  • paqman
    paqman Posts: 4,923
    stlcharcoal said:
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
    Ouch, I would be pissed...

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  • Hotch
    Hotch Posts: 3,564
    It's a SR thing I'm guessing.
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    BizGreenEgg said:
    stlcharcoal said:
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
    Wow.  It looks like they didn't even try to change it at all.  Straight up cut and paste.
    They didn't steal anything. They are just using the same basic template that a gazillion other sites are using these days.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,179
    edited April 2016
    I love that they say: 

    Quebracho Blanco literally translates to “axe breaker”


    When "Quebracho" is clearly a S. American Tree rich in Tannins and Blanco is White. Oh well.

    Also, South and Central America are home to the worst deforestation practices on earth right now. No thanks. It's why I won't use Wicked Good.


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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,759
    HeavyG said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    stlcharcoal said:
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
    Wow.  It looks like they didn't even try to change it at all.  Straight up cut and paste.
    They didn't steal anything. They are just using the same basic template that a gazillion other sites are using these days.
    It's the "Compatibility" graphic at the bottom (5 grills), not the overall template.

    I designed that 3 years ago and had our graphics artist make it look good.  It's appeared on our website & promotional materials immediately thereafter, and every bag shipped since Jan 2014.

    I still have the concept I made in MS Paint...... 



    The very talented folks at my brand marketing company made it not suck:


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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    stlcharcoal said:
    HeavyG said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    stlcharcoal said:
    Jcl5150 said:
    Looks good but expensive at $30 for a 20# bag.

    Maybe they can use all that money to create their own graphics rather than stealing them off our website.
    Wow.  It looks like they didn't even try to change it at all.  Straight up cut and paste.
    They didn't steal anything. They are just using the same basic template that a gazillion other sites are using these days.
    It's the "Compatibility" graphic at the bottom (5 grills), not the overall template.

    I designed that 3 years ago and had our graphics artist make it look good.  It's appeared on our website & promotional materials immediately thereafter, and every bag shipped since Jan 2014.

    I still have the concept I made in MS Paint...... 



    The very talented folks at my brand marketing company made it not suck:


    Whoa! Can't believe I missed spotting that.

    They did seem to lift that and not even bother to modify the graphic itself other than the size/color.

    I'm sure a friendly little email pointing out the error of one of the graphics designers involved will get that corrected.

    I'll bet they even send you a few bags of charcoal as an apology. :)
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  • 4Runner
    4Runner Posts: 2,948
    They added smoke coming from the grills.  Completely different.  Lol
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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    Does Steve Rachllin own part of that company?
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Let me axe you something, will Rockwood break my axe too?
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • kwdickert
    kwdickert Posts: 308
    edited April 2016
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohrobfarudi

    This guy is the listed CEO on the OUR STORY page. He seems to be a venture capitalist dude from LA. Interesting thing to go after. 


    EDIT:
    Under further review and googling, this site seems to have launched just a few days ago and dude is all over reddit trying to get hipsters roped in. It's an interesting tactic. He makes a few posts acting like he stumbled upon the site blindly and talks about how it looks like its better than kingsford. Then in another post later asks people to look at his new site and tell him flaws so he can improve. It seems as though, based on his reddit user name, he has multiple business projects going on at once. There's some coupon he's offering for makeup school or something at the same time he's offering coupons on the charcoal. 

    There was also at some point an offering to win 100lbs of charcoal. 

    https://www.reddit.com/user/themindofmany/submitted/




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  • Hotch
    Hotch Posts: 3,564
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker said:


    Also, South and Central America are home to the worst deforestation practices on earth right now. No thanks. It's why I won't use Wicked Good.


    So after I read this I went looking to see if the Wicked Good (Or it's source suppliers) follow the responsible management of the world’s forests as per The Forest Stewardship Council. Now not that I had really thought much about it before but I agree it would be better if they did. 

    I found a post from Treehugger.com that states:

    "Wicked Good Charcoal is super dense carbonized lump wood made from five different kinds of Brazilian timber certified by the Forest Stewardship Council. It is 100% natural, burns longer and cleaner and comes in over-sized bags making your purchase more efficient and economical."

    Now that was in 2005. I did find others.
    Naked Whiz states on there web page:

    "This charcoal is made from wood in Brazil that comes from forests certified by the Forestry Stewardship Council. (For more information on the FSC, visit the FSC website.

    There was another post "Tips for Eco-Friendly Grilling This Summer" from bopoulsen.com on 6-4/2015 about their briquettes. In it they state "

    Charcoal enthusiasts should consider buying briquettes rather than lump charcoal, since briquettes contain sawdust (a good use of waste wood). You can buy additive-free briquettes like the ones from Wicked Good Charcoal, which are certified by the Forest Stewardship Council and come from sustainable timber operations. These are a great alternative to popular brands which tend to use additives such as coal dust, starch, sodium nitrate, limestone, and borax. You may also consider saving the charcoal grilling for steaks and chops, where you’ll really taste the difference. You can cook your burgers, vegetables, and fish on your gas grill without much of a difference in taste.

    So I am OK with Wicked Good.
    My second favorite it Lazzari Mesquite Lump Charcoal. It is a product imported from Mexico by Lazzari Fuel Company that was founded in San Francisco in 1908. This is some great stuff. And at $14.00 for a restaurant grade lump 40 lb bag, It works for me.

    And from their web page:

    Ecologically Responsible

    In order to produce mesquite charcoal in a responsible manner, consistent with conservation of the earth's natural resources and ecosystems, Lazzari Fuel Company utilizes an ecologically responsible method to harvest mesquite wood by pruning and selectively thinning mesquite trees

    Lazzari's five mesquite harvesting techniques are: pruning heavy mature branches that are lowest to the ground, pruning branches that are infested with mistletoe, cutting the weakest of a cluster of trees, cutting a percentage of dead standing wood and taking a percentage of dead fallen wood.

    Each Lazzari harvesting program is developed by a biologist, who first performs a field study of a given habitat and then prepares a report which dictates what green and/or dead wood will be harvested from each micro - area. As a result of these common sense practices, Lazzari's mesquite harvests are non-detrimental to the mesquite tree, the ecosystem and habitats that surround it.


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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    kwdickert said:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohrobfarudi

    This guy is the listed CEO on the OUR STORY page. He seems to be a venture capitalist dude from LA. Interesting thing to go after. 


    EDIT:
    Under further review and googling, this site seems to have launched just a few days ago and dude is all over reddit trying to get hipsters roped in. It's an interesting tactic. He makes a few posts acting like he stumbled upon the site blindly and talks about how it looks like its better than kingsford. Then in another post later asks people to look at his new site and tell him flaws so he can improve. It seems as though, based on his reddit user name, he has multiple business projects going on at once. There's some coupon he's offering for makeup school or something at the same time he's offering coupons on the charcoal. 

    There was also at some point an offering to win 100lbs of charcoal. 

    https://www.reddit.com/user/themindofmany/submitted/




    Last weekend they were offering a code (REDDIT20) for a 20% discount. I almost bought a few bags but decided even at that it was too expensive as I am quite content with my plebeian Royal Oak.
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936

    I think the clown posting on reddit must be an internet marketer for hire, his posts are all over the place.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936

    FWIW, found this online, so it must be true.

    Quebracho comes from the Spanish words quebrar and hacha, or quiebra hacha, which basically translates into axe breaker. Quebracho blanco is just one of a few trees that receives the quebracho name. There are two other “quebracho” trees that come from a different family named Anacardiaceae.

    This post adds no value to this thread.

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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,179
    Hotch said:
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker said:


    Also, South and Central America are home to the worst deforestation practices on earth right now. No thanks. It's why I won't use Wicked Good.


    So after I read this I went looking to see if the Wicked Good (Or it's source suppliers) follow the responsible management of the world’s forests as per The Forest Stewardship Council. Now not that I had really thought much about it before but I agree it would be better if they did. 

    I found a post from Treehugger.com that states:

    "Wicked Good Charcoal is super dense carbonized lump wood made from five different kinds of Brazilian timber certified by the Forest Stewardship Council. It is 100% natural, burns longer and cleaner and comes in over-sized bags making your purchase more efficient and economical."

    Now that was in 2005. I did find others.
    Naked Whiz states on there web page:

    "This charcoal is made from wood in Brazil that comes from forests certified by the Forestry Stewardship Council. (For more information on the FSC, visit the FSC website.

    There was another post "Tips for Eco-Friendly Grilling This Summer" from bopoulsen.com on 6-4/2015 about their briquettes. In it they state "

    Charcoal enthusiasts should consider buying briquettes rather than lump charcoal, since briquettes contain sawdust (a good use of waste wood). You can buy additive-free briquettes like the ones from Wicked Good Charcoal, which are certified by the Forest Stewardship Council and come from sustainable timber operations. These are a great alternative to popular brands which tend to use additives such as coal dust, starch, sodium nitrate, limestone, and borax. You may also consider saving the charcoal grilling for steaks and chops, where you’ll really taste the difference. You can cook your burgers, vegetables, and fish on your gas grill without much of a difference in taste.

    So I am OK with Wicked Good.
    My second favorite it Lazzari Mesquite Lump Charcoal. It is a product imported from Mexico by Lazzari Fuel Company that was founded in San Francisco in 1908. This is some great stuff. And at $14.00 for a restaurant grade lump 40 lb bag, It works for me.

    And from their web page:

    Ecologically Responsible

    In order to produce mesquite charcoal in a responsible manner, consistent with conservation of the earth's natural resources and ecosystems, Lazzari Fuel Company utilizes an ecologically responsible method to harvest mesquite wood by pruning and selectively thinning mesquite trees

    Lazzari's five mesquite harvesting techniques are: pruning heavy mature branches that are lowest to the ground, pruning branches that are infested with mistletoe, cutting the weakest of a cluster of trees, cutting a percentage of dead standing wood and taking a percentage of dead fallen wood.

    Each Lazzari harvesting program is developed by a biologist, who first performs a field study of a given habitat and then prepares a report which dictates what green and/or dead wood will be harvested from each micro - area. As a result of these common sense practices, Lazzari's mesquite harvests are non-detrimental to the mesquite tree, the ecosystem and habitats that surround it.


    good to know about WG. I like their stuff but I'm happy with Rockwood being delivered to my door. 


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  • Hotch
    Hotch Posts: 3,564
    And Rockwood is #3 for me.
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  • Whisper
    Whisper Posts: 2
    Was actually looking for a few reviews on this new stuff and ran across this Egg posting and thought I would share. I bought a 35lb bag from Amazon and they shipped me two 20lb bags with a letter stating I was getting 5lbs for free. It ended up being $50 total. A little expensive, but I'm always looking at different coals to see if there is a better one so I don't mind trying one that's a little pricy.

    I've only used it twice so far. I'm not finding it any better or worse then any other I've tried, at least so far. I will say I do like the size of the pieces as they are small to medium with no large pieces that have to be broken up ... yet. I'll check the second bag when it's time. It seems to heat up a little slower, but not enough to matter. I also haven't seen any poping or any foreign material like I have in some of the other bags I've tried. The head is good, but I haven't seen if it will bury the needle. I'll test that out later. I'll also test how it holds the lower temps when I do a butt this weekend (or a brisket).

    I used the lumps on Monday to make Stealhead salmon and tonight (Tuesday) to make tuna steaks. There did seem to be a better taste with the salmon, (I didn't add any wood for taste) but since it was my first time grilling Tuna steaks, I couldn't say if there was a better taste for that one, but according to my wife, Tuna has moved into her #2 favoriate spot, behind salmon and above trout and Amberjack.


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