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Curiosity Question - Anyone ever use a larding needle?

I was watching an old episode of the Galloping Gourmet on YouTube recently. In this episode he used a larding needle to insert lard - fat - into a roast. Well first off, I had never heard of a larding needle before. I searched Amazon and sure enough, they have them for sale.
That makes me wonder if anyone here has used one? I'm wondering how that might work on something like a brisket flat?
I just thought I'd throw this out and see what that wisdom of the hive is on this matter. @SGH You have any thoughts?
Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                      YukonRon

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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    http://youtu.be/czrj4yJm6z0
    this is the cooking episode
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    I havent used one myself. However my grandmother used one religiously for years. She referred to it as a larding iron though. Its the same thing, just a different name.

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

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    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    SGH said:
    I havent used one myself. However my grandmother used one religiously for years. She referred to it as a larding iron though. Its the same thing, just a different name.
    Was reading your response to @jeffwit on the other thread. Would addition of lard using something like this add "quality" to a lean brisket flat? Would it in effect add artificial marbling and increase one's chances of getting a difficult piece of meat to turn out well?
    I'm asking much of this in an academic sense. I realize nothing takes the place of genuine quality. Just buying a good piece of meat to start with is the best plan. I was just wondering if this was worth piddling around with - how well did it work for your grandmother (in your opinion)?
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    SciAggie said:
     Would addition of lard using something like this add "quality" to a lean brisket flat? Would it in effect add artificial marbling and increase one's chances of getting a difficult piece of meat to turn out well?
    It would depend on a degree to what means you were trying to reach. As far as adding moisture to a brisket, this is much easier accomplished with a simple injection. Hence the reason that injecting has became so popular. Larding is usually done (that i have seen) to add vegetables to the meat, such as with roasts.  Im sure its used other ways, but here in Dixie vegetables are the main choice. In essence you are basically stuffing lets say a roast with vegetables when larding. Again, my experience with larding is just seeing what my grandmother did with roasts. I have zero hands on experience with it. So to try to answer the question pertaining to larding a brisket, if you used some type of fat it would still be basically the same as an injection. Why? Any fat that you added by larding would simply be sitting in between the muscle fibers. Unlike the natural fat that is grown in the fibers (marbling). Would it help add moisture? Im sure that it would to a degree. However my concern would be did all the little added chunks render away or is some of them still in there. This is why i feel injecting would be the superior choice for moisture over larding when it comes to brisket. The biggest difference being that with injecting you are adding a liquid and with larding you would be adding chunks that you are not sure that you have rendered away. Maybe others who have actually tried it  can offer more my friend. But i feel my guesstimation is probably reasonably accurate.

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    Thanks. 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
  • Chef_Hobo
    Chef_Hobo Posts: 70
    edited October 2015
    Completely agree with what SGH said.  It would probably also make for some unsightly slices.  However, you got me thinking, what if you injected some rendered beef fat into a lean brisket flat (probably best midway during the cook)?  Hmmm...  I might have to do some experimenting soon.
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    Centex had a post a while back using one to Stuff garlic into a loin. 

    http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/comment/1642036/#Comment_1642036
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,527
    Someone at work today asked if I could pass the yolk separator. The what? First time I've seen a yolk separator. I clearly don't bake! :o
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    If I keep spending money and drinking heavy(often related), my wife will be a yolk separator.