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Prepping the lump for fast start up

busmania
busmania Posts: 414
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I will be cooking a brisket tonight.  I plan to put it on around 2am.  No one...not even me, likes to be up at 2am so I am trying to think of a way to light the egg faster so I can go back to bed.  It usually takes 60 minutes for the "bad" smoke to burn off.  My idea is to run a load of lump today for about 2 hours to cook off the bad stuff then snuff it out.  Then at 2am when I wake up, I can put the food on within 10-15 minutes of lighting.  Is this a terrible idea?
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  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,458
    Good idea for clean smoke but your egg still needs to stabilize at your target temp or you will be fighting the fire all night.   I would let the egg run at target temp for no less than 1-1 1/2hrs. 

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    analyze adapt overcome

    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
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  • Ladeback69
    Ladeback69 Posts: 4,484
    What time do you plan to go to bed, how big is the brisket and what temp do you plan to run at?

    I am doing one tonight, but am starting it around 7 at the latest, I need it for lunch. 
    XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas Grill

    Kansas City, Mo.
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  • busmania
    busmania Posts: 414
    Mattman3969 said:
    Good idea for clean smoke but your egg still needs to stabilize at your target temp or you will be fighting the fire all night.   I would let the egg run at target temp for no less than 1-1 1/2hrs. 

    Even with a pit controller?  IQ120.  I probably just need to suck it up and do it right.
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  • busmania
    busmania Posts: 414
    Ladeback69 said:
    What time do you plan to go to bed, how big is the brisket and what temp do you plan to run at?

    I am doing one tonight, but am starting it around 7 at the latest, I need it for lunch. 

    Brisket is 13 pounds.  Probably be like 11-12 when trimmed.  Eating at 5pm.  I usually go to bed around 10pm.  I might just put it on when I go to bed and then FTC it if it is done early.  I've learned my lesson, better to be done early than late.  Rushing the end never produces good results.  I can hold in my oven at 170 for 8+hours right?  That is if it finishes that early.
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  • Ladeback69
    Ladeback69 Posts: 4,484
    It usually takes my XL about 30 to 40 minutes to get stabilized at 235 to 250.  I then let it run for another 20 to 30 to make sure it it isn't going to move, but a pit controller may speed that up and make it easier to get going quicker.

    XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas Grill

    Kansas City, Mo.
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  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,458
    I can't answer on the controller because I have never used one.  

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    analyze adapt overcome

    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
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  • Brisket_Fanatic
    Brisket_Fanatic Posts: 2,885
    With a full load of lump you can light it at 9pm, let it stabilize and then it will be perfect when you get up at 2 to put it on. Have the brisket prepped and ready to go and you will be back in bed by 215.

    NW IA

    2 LBGE, 1 SBGE, 22.5 WSM, 1 Smokey Joe and Black Stone

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  • minniemoh
    minniemoh Posts: 2,145
    From my experience, a stable fire cannot be obtained for a low-n-slow in 15 minutes regardless of VOC burn off. How big is your brisket and what is your cook temp going to be? If you think the cook will last 15-18 hours, you could start the egg and get the temp stable for a few hours (start it at 9 or 10 o'clock) and let it burn until you want to put the brisket on at 2 AM. Add your smoke wood when you get up to put the meat on. I usually have plenty of lump leftover after a brisket cook that runs in the 15-18 hour range. 
    L x2, M, S, Mini and a Blackstone 36. She says I have enough now....
    eggAddict from MN!
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,891
    I would light your BGE around 8 PM and get the fire stable at whatever temp you plan to cook (if around 270*F on the dome you can plan about an hour/lb) for at least an hour.  Then load the brisket and let it run.  check it in the AM and adjust the temp as needed. 
    If you have a controller as you mention above, then you can run at a lower temp thru the night and audible in the AM.
    And regarding holding, here's a link to a thread about long duration FTC; Foil Towels and Cooler (FTC) for extended duration  (Or your oven on the lowest setting).  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • busmania
    busmania Posts: 414
    edited October 2015

    I am thinking I might go buy a bigger brisket.  That way, I can start it earlier.  I am somewhat worried my 13 pounder might be too small for the group I am feeding.  The hoard of frozen briskets in my freezer is getting ridiculous though and this would just add to that.

    Thanks everyone.

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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Brisket_Fanatic said:
    With a full load of lump you can light it at 9pm, let it stabilize and then it will be perfect when you get up at 2 to put it on. Have the brisket prepped and ready to go and you will be back in bed by 215.
    ^^^ this is the best way to salvage your beauty sleep if you're set on putting the meat on at 2.  just start your fire before you go to bed and let it run low and slow until you wake to put the meat on.  trying to hurry to get to a stable temp is a great way to wake to either a 100 degree egg or a 400 degree egg
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • Ladeback69
    Ladeback69 Posts: 4,484
    busmania said:

    I am thinking I might go buy a bigger brisket.  That way, I can start it earlier.  I am somewhat worried my 13 pounder might be too small.  The hoard of frozen briskets in my freezer is getting ridiculous though and this would just add to that.

    Thanks everyone.



    @busmainia, I take it you want this for dinner tomorrow?  If you trim the 13 lb brisket it will be around 12 to 11 lbs when done.  At 275 it would be done in about 11 to 12 hours.  So if you put it on at midnight it should be ready around noon.  I have FTC'd one for over 6 hours in a cooler and it was still to hot to touch while cutting.  There are many ways to go.  good luck.

    XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas Grill

    Kansas City, Mo.
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,663
    i do what brisket_fanatic said all the time. i light my egg on a friday night and toss the butt in at 4am when im getting the boat started 6 hours later.  most i do when putting the butt in is use the wiggle rod thru the lower vent
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • busmania
    busmania Posts: 414
    I am thinking I will pick up a bigger brisket and start it earlier than planned rather than rushing things.  I rushed my last brisket and it was a disaster. 
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  • DaveRichardson
    DaveRichardson Posts: 2,324
    Just start it later in the evening before bed.  Keep it low and slow.  Trust your Eggstincts!

    LBGE since 2014

    Griffin, GA 

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  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
    edited October 2015
    guy seems to be ignoring all the sane people who are saying "just start the egg earlier"

    not sure why this is not obvious.  putting the meat on at 2am doesn't mean starting the fire at 2am.

    i used to start earlier and even throw the meat on, and set temps lower.  this slowed down the cook so that i didn't have to get up at 2am (or whatever).

    alternate is to get up in the morning and put in on hotter.


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  • jimithing
    jimithing Posts: 255
    You should be able to hold your egg at low and slow temp for 18 hours, right?  Just start it earlier and get it nice and stable and then you can put it on whenever you want, right?

    Also don't forget that brisket can hold in a cooler for a long time.  Even if it gets done at noon it'll be just fine for a 5pm dinner.
    XL BGE
    Plano, TX
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  • Tinyfish
    Tinyfish Posts: 1,755
    Full your egg up full and light it like others have said at 9pm set and go to bed.  My XL with a full full load would go for ever no worries about running out.
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  • busmania
    busmania Posts: 414
    Darby_Crenshaw said:
    guy seems to be ignoring all the sane people who are saying "just start the egg earlier"

    not sure why this is not obvious.  putting the meat on at 2am doesn't mean starting the fire at 2am.

    i used to start earlier and even throw the meat on, and set temps lower.  this slowed down the cook so that i didn't have to get up at 2am (or whatever).

    alternate is to get up in the morning and put in on hotter.


    um yeah...clearly ignored. i did exactly this. i started it at 8 and decided just to put the brisket on early. Glad i did, at 11 hours, temp is stuck at 145. I went 225 overnight, bumped to 275 this morning. My IQ120 would not turn on so this cook hsa been old school, no temp controller.
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  • Ladeback69
    Ladeback69 Posts: 4,484
    busmania said:
    Darby_Crenshaw said:
    guy seems to be ignoring all the sane people who are saying "just start the egg earlier"

    not sure why this is not obvious.  putting the meat on at 2am doesn't mean starting the fire at 2am.

    i used to start earlier and even throw the meat on, and set temps lower.  this slowed down the cook so that i didn't have to get up at 2am (or whatever).

    alternate is to get up in the morning and put in on hotter.


    um yeah...clearly ignored. i did exactly this. i started it at 8 and decided just to put the brisket on early. Glad i did, at 11 hours, temp is stuck at 145. I went 225 overnight, bumped to 275 this morning. My IQ120 would not turn on so this cook hsa been old school, no temp controller.
    Mine was old school tool and my meat probe wouldn't work. Only had grid temp to work with.
    XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas Grill

    Kansas City, Mo.
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,891
    Gotta appreciate the ability to run old school and get great results.  Never know when the electronics decide to quit.  Most eggcellent.
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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