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Not just another smoking wood thread
NPHuskerFL
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So I have a co-worker that's wife and friend own and operate a food truck that specializes in 100% scratch made cuisine. They cater a good deal also. We recently were talking about the use of natural driftwood for smoking meat. Here in FL you can't just go snag driftwood off the beach. So my buddy soaked some Applewood in sea salt water for about week and then let it air dry. I'm wondering if the same could be done with a longer soak time using ocean water? And what kind of results could be expected.
LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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interesting, what kind of flavor do you get off of driftwood? hot dogs cooked on coat hangers over a beach bonfire always taste better, but I don't think that's the driftwood. is the smoke more influenced by the original wood or the sea water? I would think sea water would be better than just water with sea salt, you'll get all of those other minerals and organic duff that give sea water it's briny, not just salty flavor. I can't imagine just salt water influencing the smoke from wood.
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@Legume they used what they made up to smoke around 27 whole chickens and used them for some killer shredded sliders. He said it gave some nice flavor and was different than that of regular applewood smoke. I'll try with some applewood, pecan and maybe oak. I'm going to try a ocean water soak for a couple of weeks and "sea" if it imparts some nice results. I figured somebody here had used driftwood before as I believe you can actually buy it for smoking purposes.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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Brining wood now - good stuff. Let us know what you find out.Jacksonville FL
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I can see my wife looking at me like I'm batshit crazy as I load a carboy of sea water into my truck next trip to the coast.
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have never used drift wood
have dragged rock weed out of the ocean though and smoked on that
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
Interesting post. Most of our driftwood is escapees from log booms, Douglas Fir, red cedar, Hemlock and spruce. Can’t imagine being soaked in the raw sewage Victoria dumps in the ocean or the spooge that ships empty from ballast tanks and heads would improve the smoke flavour.
From gasser days, have heard of folks soaking wood chips in water with some vanilla in it - never tried it.
As @Dobie said “Brining wood now”, learn something everyday.Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad! -
Salt's not going anywhere. It'd just be left behind. Won't magically flavor the air
i can't understand the logic honestly. Sea salt is given mythical health properties and there are supposed flavor differences. Salt is salt, and the mineral content for most of these is minor. But even if it were so, the smoke won't have this flavor.
So basically you have a piece of wood which got into the ocean in an unknown way. It has had much of it's own tannins and 'flavor' leached out by sun and brine, and whayever flavor it picks ip from salt can't be transferred to the meat.
Call me debbie downer, but i'd want to hear objective results. Humans are really bad at saying "this thing tastes subjectively better than the thing i had a week ago under totally different circumstances"
hell. New englander here. We cook lobster, fish, corn etc by building a fire with rocks, smothering it with seaweed (far more organics and brine in that then in driftwood) and no one says "that tastes much better than simply steaming it".
Nah. It's the idea and romance of it that colors the perception.
that's just my inherently skeptical, logic-based thinking. Value of said opinion? If you agree with it, high. If not, valueless. -
I wonder if the microbes from the sea water and the proteins that cause sea foam would impart a "briny" flavor.Raleigh NC, Large BGE and KJ Joe Jr.
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They don't when you use seaweed in much larger amounts for a clambake.
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I gotta disagree with you there. My family does a lobster bake every summer and we all think the flavor beats just steaming it; although I'd agree that the idea and romance of the cook do come into play.st¡ke said:
hell. New englander here. We cook lobster, fish, corn etc by building a fire with rocks, smothering it with seaweed (far more organics and brine in that then in driftwood) and no one says "that tastes much better than simply steaming it".
As far as using driftwood as smoke wood it'll be interesting to hear what the results are if anyone actually goes through the trouble to make some. As stated above way too much of the 'true' driftwood out there is pine/fur for me to feel comfortable tossing a few hunks in the egg, but making some in a controlled environment could lead to some fascinating results.
Completely OT but while I'm thinking about lobster..... If anyone has the chance get a bucket of seawater and boil your lobsters in it instead of steaming them. The flavor is out of this world!!! I first heard of this trick out of an old Jasper White cookbook and now we do it whenever we're at the beach. -
what it will do is make your egg stinkst¡ke said:They don't when you use seaweed in much larger amounts for a clambake.
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Thanks for all the above valid opinions. The experiment is just that. I wouldn't expect a soak in the Atlantic would give the smoke an edge over non driftwood so to speak. But, surely driftwood does impart give different flair in flavor whether using smoking or hotter. My co-worker used a sea salt brine and didn't say it gave a salty flavor just a different smoke in comparison to non brined. What's the objective or point? Why not is what I say. The curious part to me would be a piece of driftwood on a beach that is quite possibly decades old or older would to me logically give off different flavor in the end vs a week or two week brine in ocean water.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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@ChillyWillis your comment about boiling in seawater versus steaming with seawater is my point in a nutshell
boiling will immerse the food in the brine. Steaming it leves all that behind and merely steams the food with (essentially) distilled water. Steam won't have those funky brine elements
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@st¡ke The romance of it probably does play some role in the bigger scheme. My only encounter using driftwood was in Iceland and it was as a camp fire. So using in an egg etc I haven't done personally. I guess I just figured somebody on here had tried it.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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@st¡ke very true. I should have been more clear. I wasn't saying that the additional flavor I find in a lobster bake came from the steaming seaweed, simply that I enjoy the flavor more. I find that you get a bit more of the flavor you find when you cook lobster over a dry heat, like over charcoal.
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so what about using the seaweed to smoke with, not steam with, in a clam bake you steam with it, put the seaweed right on the red hot lump and get it smokingst¡ke said:@ChillyWillis your comment about boiling in seawater versus steaming with seawater is my point in a nutshell
boiling will immerse the food in the brine. Steaming it leves all that behind and merely steams the food with (essentially) distilled water. Steam won't have those funky brine elements
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
following stike's logic, this is probably more about what's being removed or leached from the wood that transforms it than what is being added. who knows, maybe you could tame some mesquite by soaking it in some ocean water in the sun for a month or three.NPHuskerFL said:Thanks for all the above valid opinions. The experiment is just that. I wouldn't expect a soak in the Atlantic would give the smoke an edge over non driftwood so to speak. But, surely driftwood does impart give different flair in flavor whether using smoking or hotter. My co-worker used a sea salt brine and didn't say it gave a salty flavor just a different smoke in comparison to non brined. What's the objective or point? Why not is what I say. The curious part to me would be a piece of driftwood on a beach that is quite possibly decades old or older would to me logically give off different flavor in the end vs a week or two week brine in ocean water.
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Would a darker ash possibly mean a different smoke quality, too? I don't know. Probably not but it is kind of interesting.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10163-013-0212-z
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The species of wood and having (or not) contaminants such as creosote or mold are gonna impact the flavor in the food from its smoke. The salt ain't going nowhere.
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